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| I can agree that the numbers aren't intuitive, but they exist, are official, and are used elsewhere (say video titles for gameplay). I found this page to be less useful doe to the omission of the full game titles. If the consensus is that the numbers make it too confusing, then perhaps have multiple lists or a table. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 02:24, 16 October 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | I can agree that the numbers aren't intuitive, but they exist, are official, and are used elsewhere (say video titles for gameplay). I found this page to be less useful doe to the omission of the full game titles. If the consensus is that the numbers make it too confusing, then perhaps have multiple lists or a table. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 02:24, 16 October 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | ||
| == Revengeance == | |||
| Putting that rather explicit admission aside, I've read the interview I assume TJD2 is claiming as evidence to the contrary, and in it, Kojima does not state that it is in a parallel universe, but a parallel story. BIG difference. Getting "this is in another universe" from that phrasing is OR on TJD2's part; The same passage can also be translated as "side story", as in "canon, but not tied to the main ongoing storyline", much like how the Sonic series has games like Sonic Battle and Shadow the Hedgehog that are treated as spinoffs but still canon and have had their events acknowledged in games that have followed, or even how Kojima has since stated on one of his podcasts that Portable Ops is in a sort of "B-canon" (suggesting that events depicted in the game happened, but if something from later titles contradicts it, defer to the newer material). Being the last in the timeline, Revengeance does not contradict any of the other games, and likely will not unless a new canon Metal Gear set during that era is developed and explicitly writes Revengeance out. Until TJD2 started trying to remove Revengeance from the list (repeatedly, since as far back as September), only one other anon user has attempted to do so with no sourcing whatsoever. No other editors have had any issues with listing Revengeance as canon, so it's ultimately on TJD2 to make a case why its current standing should be overridden. -- ] (]) 20:29, 30 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
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Piping wikilinks and alternate timeline inclusion
There is no need to pipe wikilinks since there is no need to conserve space and may cause confusion since the series switches between "Metal Gear" and "Metal Gear Solid" (when in chronological order).
The alternate timeline is also unnecessary as this template is used to show the canon game order. I don't believe that all of the side games fall into one timeline. The main navbox contains all of the side games and other game articles.
Also, do not claim that a revert of your edit constitutes as vandalism. talk ♦ contribs 03:13, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
- Well if the titles get too big then they will be piped but I did so to match the style of the rest of the chronological templates like the Halo, Metroid, Castlevania and Banjo-Kazooie chronology templates. Plus we already know it's Metal Gear or Solid plus wouldn't really matter if Solid as it's all Metal Gear series. --Victory93 (talk) 05:36, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
- First off, you just changed the Halo Chronology template to have the pipe trick right after making that comment. In any case, it's also a matter of the chronological template jumping between Metal Gear and Metal Gear Solid titling. Secondly, it's a matter of how readers will know the game title: Metal Gear Solid 2 or Sons of Liberty. It's also a way to stop confusion altogether. By using "Solid Snake" as the title, someone may read it as "Metal Gear Solid Snake" or "Metal Gear Solid: Snake" and not Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake. talk ♦ contribs 17:34, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
- Is there already a set chronology for the upcoming Metal Gear game? --Victory93 (talk) 05:05, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
Metal Gear Solid 5 inclusion
Can anyone please be so kind as to provide a genuine source for a timeline placement for "Metal Gear Solid 5"? It was to my knowledge that the only thing we know about the title is that it exists, although the user Soffredo seems to claim the contrary. --Anddo (talk) 02:42, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
- A note to add, any source that says that "Ground Zeroes is a prologue to MGS5" does not explicitly say anything about MGS5's place in the timeline. Just that it's a prologue. For all we know Kojima may mean prologue in the sense of gameplay. --Anddo (talk) 04:57, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
Numbers
I can agree that the numbers aren't intuitive, but they exist, are official, and are used elsewhere (say video titles for gameplay). I found this page to be less useful doe to the omission of the full game titles. If the consensus is that the numbers make it too confusing, then perhaps have multiple lists or a table. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.178.47.39 (talk) 02:24, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
Revengeance
It's canon. Putting that rather explicit admission aside, I've read the interview I assume TJD2 is claiming as evidence to the contrary, and in it, Kojima does not state that it is in a parallel universe, but a parallel story. BIG difference. Getting "this is in another universe" from that phrasing is OR on TJD2's part; The same passage can also be translated as "side story", as in "canon, but not tied to the main ongoing storyline", much like how the Sonic series has games like Sonic Battle and Shadow the Hedgehog that are treated as spinoffs but still canon and have had their events acknowledged in games that have followed, or even how Kojima has since stated on one of his podcasts that Portable Ops is in a sort of "B-canon" (suggesting that events depicted in the game happened, but if something from later titles contradicts it, defer to the newer material). Being the last in the timeline, Revengeance does not contradict any of the other games, and likely will not unless a new canon Metal Gear set during that era is developed and explicitly writes Revengeance out. Until TJD2 started trying to remove Revengeance from the list (repeatedly, since as far back as September), only one other anon user has attempted to do so with no sourcing whatsoever. No other editors have had any issues with listing Revengeance as canon, so it's ultimately on TJD2 to make a case why its current standing should be overridden. -- 68.37.227.226 (talk) 20:29, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
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