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I'm a little puzzled about the question of whether bards outrank ovates. Many sites imply it's so, and on one particular site and also in the Gorsedd's own literature, it's stated explicitly. However, other organisations also seem to use those ranks (see e.g. Neo-druidism) and the order there is that ovates outrank bards. If anyone feels like sanity-checking this, I'd appreciate it.

I'd also like to know whether, given that all members of the Cornish Gorseth wear blue (as their site seems to say), there are nevertheless similar ranks within that organisation. Marnanel 03:11, Apr 7, 2004 (UTC)

The Cornish bards are all of one rank. The lone exception is the Grand Bard who is elected by a vote of his peers to a term of three years. He is the only one that stands above the circle of bards. Past Grand Bards wear a special cowl that honors them for the role the previously filled.

There is a strong link between the Cornish bardic circle and the round table of King Arthur. It very much reflects the democratic or egalitarian inclination of the Celts. Bcurnow 04:38, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)

gorseddau

Can this be redirected to this page? Zigzig20s 01:38, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Done. J Milburn 23:05, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Horn of Plenty

I considered wikilinking the Horn of Plenty to the Cornucopia as there are some clear symbolic similarities but wasn't sure so I've left it out. Perhaps it should have links back the other way. EdwardLane (talk) 12:06, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Redundant use of hyperliks

"People are also made ovates or druids as an honour to reward their contributions to Culture of Wales|Welsh culture." (https://en.wikipedia.org/Gorsedd#Ranks)

I removed the hyperlink from the word honour. If there existed a peculiar druidian concept of honour, sure then it'd be relevant to the article. But as it is pertaining to a piece of everyday vocalbulary, making a hyperlink is highly redundant. As well one could give hyperlinks for word "people", the verb "is (<- are)", "reward" etc. etc.

Same thing with the following sentence: "This symbol, called "awen", is often explained as representing the sun."

Again, if "sun" would be pertaining to some page dealing with a specific druidian conception of sun, sure it would be the most relevant. However, the definitions and attributes of sun as a astrofysical body are not related with the subject. Jayaguru-Shishya (talk) 18:41, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Revisionism

The whole article stinks of historical revisionism. The gorsedd was an invention to suit the fashion of the late 18th century, not for modern day nationalists to prove that they are the ones in the right nor was it made for Welsh culture! At the very least, re-research this. 2.101.127.46 (talk) 01:22, 23 October 2015 (UTC)Frank Obolobolopoulos

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