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:::::What is your basis for claiming that {{tq|] ] are the only SPFL clubs with Saint in their name and both use the .}}?. I have provided evidence from the club's own websites and -- crucially -- from reliable sources. You offer only assertion. :::::What is your basis for claiming that {{tq|] ] are the only SPFL clubs with Saint in their name and both use the .}}?. I have provided evidence from the club's own websites and -- crucially -- from reliable sources. You offer only assertion.
:::::Without some evidence to support your claim, your oppose is just ]. --] <small>] • (])</small> 19:52, 23 January 2016 (UTC) :::::Without some evidence to support your claim, your oppose is just ]. --] <small>] • (])</small> 19:52, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
:::::::{{ping|User:BrownHairedGirl}} First of all your opening statement mentioned nothing about commonname, so yes it was very misleading. You've also maid very incorrect statements such as '''as reflected for example in the names of the other Scottish football clubs.''' Have a look at website. Only two clubs are names Saint. ] in the Premiership and ] in the championship. Outside the SPFL in junior football there is another two, ] & ] So out of four only 1 is named without the St. So please BrownHairedGirl show me where '''as reflected for example in the names of the other Scottish football clubs''' is proven. As you've said to me show me your evidence to back up your lies. ‎ As for I dont like it thats just you trying to hide the fact you are being evasive. If you can prove common name applies to a ., then please go ahead. However done make false statements. The . is good English.] ] 20:54, 23 January 2016 (UTC) :::::::{{ping|User:BrownHairedGirl}} First of all your opening statement mentioned nothing about commonname, so yes it was very misleading. You've also maid very incorrect statements such as '''as reflected for example in the names of the other Scottish football clubs.''' Have a look at website. Only two clubs are names Saint. ] in the Premiership and ] in the championship. Outside the SPFL in Junior football there is another four, ], ], ] & ] So out of six only 2 is named without the St. So please BrownHairedGirl show me where '''as reflected for example in the names of the other Scottish football clubs''' is proven. As you've said to me show me your evidence to back up your lies. ‎ As for I dont like it thats just you trying to hide the fact you are being evasive. If you can prove common name applies to a ., then please go ahead. However done make false statements. The . is good English.] ] 20:54, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
::::::::Are you really a Scot? Using a dot is the American way. Same with Mr, Mrs, etc. — ''']''' 20:58, 23 January 2016 (UTC) ::::::::Are you really a Scot? Using a dot is the American way. Same with Mr, Mrs, etc. — ''']''' 20:58, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
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Buddies?

Why are they called "The Buddies"? Could someone cover this in the History section?

Buddie = Body. Just the way that the word body in the past sounded in a scots accent. Should be something in the Paisley page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.11.198.1 (talk) 13:32, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Ronaldinho

Is the reasoning behind Ronaldinho's rejection correct. I've heard passport issues 82.9.197.121 19:57, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

As I understood it at the time the problem was with red tape. When signing a player on load you need to get permission from the parent FA, in Ronaldinho's case this was the Brazilian FA, unfortunately for saints when they tried to contact the Brazilian FA to get clearance they were told it was a public holiday in Brazil and as such no-one was available, that was on the deadline day and so scuppered the deal. Thats from memory, ESPN Story cites another reason. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.1.215.66 (talk) 13:44, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Re-direction from St. Mirren F.C.

Just wondering why, since the full-stop should be part of the contraction. - Dudesleeper 21:46, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

I moved the article back to the original page after realising it was re-directed by an anonymous user with no reason given. - Dudesleeper 21:50, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Ticket Prices=

Almost half of the page is dedicated to ticket prices for the current season. I say it should be removed as it is advertising. Winterbottom 16:49, January 11th 2007 (UTC)

pics

Images from the recent game against Motherwell and others are available on flickr here, all of these have a free licence and can be uploaded to commons. Nanonic (talk) 22:05, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Requested move 20 January 2016

The request to rename this article to St Mirren F.C. has been carried out.
If the page title has consensus, be sure to close this discussion using {{subst:RM top|'''page moved'''.}} and {{subst:RM bottom}} and remove the {{Requested move/dated|…}} tag, or replace it with the {{subst:Requested move/end|…}} tag.

– to remove the dot from "St." per wikipedia naming convention and per the club's own website http://www.saintmirren.net/. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 20:44, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

  • Comment leaning to don't moveHave a look at the club's logo on the website though as It clearly says St. Mirren Football Club, as does the logo we use on St. Mirren F.C.. Plus the club's official website actually uses Saint Mirren as well, so you could argue that rather than St Mirren. Plus can you link to the naming convention you are referring to.Blethering Scot 16:31, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
  • Reply. @Blethering Scot: As explained at WP:OFFICIAL, the policy at WP:COMMONNAME is that Misplaced Pages does not necessarily use the subject's "official" name as an article title; it generally prefers to use the name that is most frequently used to refer to the subject in English-language reliable sources.
    Those sources overwhelmingly abbreviate the word "Saint", as does the club itself: http://www.stcuthbertwanderers.co.uk/ uses "St Mirren" in its site header and in every usage I found.
    Google News gives 183 hits for "Saint Mirren", but 360 hits for "St Mirren".
    I looked for "I looked for "St. C" on the first 7 search pages of result listings (70 hits), and found zero uses of "St." with a dot.
    The convention does not seem to be documented, but it is longstanding practice on.wp not to use the dot in "St.", as reflected for example in the names of the other Scottish football clubs. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:05, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
So your original post was certainly misleading then. Common name really doesnt apply to a . in my opinion. Your original post read like we had a naming convention stating Saint should be abbreviated to St rather than St. In this case I am definitly Opposed to move. As for other Scottish clubs St. Johnstone F.C. St. Mirren F.C. are the only SPFL clubs with Saint in their name and both use the . You've also requested a move to St. Cuthbert Wanderers F.C.. Please tell me the precedent of Scottish clubs that done use St., as I'm failing to see it.Blethering Scot 19:42, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
@Blethering Scot: Nothing misleading. It is an undocumented convention, demonstrable in usage. I used the word "convention" rather than "policy" or "guideline". I did not claim that it was a convention of some set of football clubs; it is a wider convention across all topics, including towns such as St Andrews and lots of Scottish schools.
What is your basis for claiming that St. Johnstone F.C. St. Mirren F.C. are the only SPFL clubs with Saint in their name and both use the .?. I have provided evidence from the club's own websites and -- crucially -- from reliable sources. You offer only assertion.
Without some evidence to support your claim, your oppose is just WP:IDONTLIKEIT. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:52, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
@BrownHairedGirl: First of all your opening statement mentioned nothing about commonname, so yes it was very misleading. You've also maid very incorrect statements such as as reflected for example in the names of the other Scottish football clubs. Have a look at SPFL website. Only two clubs are names Saint. St. Johnstone F.C. in the Premiership and St. Mirren F.C. in the championship. Outside the SPFL in Junior football there is another four, St Anthony's F.C.‎, St Roch's F.C, St. Andrews United F.C. & St. Cuthbert Wanderers F.C. So out of six only 2 is named without the St. So please BrownHairedGirl show me where as reflected for example in the names of the other Scottish football clubs is proven. As you've said to me show me your evidence to back up your lies. ‎ As for I dont like it thats just you trying to hide the fact you are being evasive. If you can prove common name applies to a ., then please go ahead. However done make false statements. The . is good English.Blethering Scot 20:54, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
Are you really a Scot? Using a dot is the American way. Same with Mr, Mrs, etc. — Film Fan 20:58, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
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