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User:Morton devonshire

User:TheOnlyChoice is a sockpuppet of User:Morton devonshire, who was rather clumsy.

Morton is using a sockpuppet, as shown clearly from this edit, TheOnlyChoice signed his name "--unsigned by Morton devonshire" then the very next edit, User:Morton devonshire changed it to User:Morton devonshire.

Other evidence:

User:Morton devonshire and User:TheOnlyChoice

1. Both users edit the same pages, and User:TheOnlyChoice launched immediatly into a AfD a page that User:Morton devonshire has edited before.
2. Both use the term POV cruft, a vague term.
3. User:TheOnlyChoice suggests another AfD. Then immediatly following, Morton devonshire warned everyone to avoid using sockpuppets, as if to take the heat away from him,

Past behavior, boot log

23:54, 3 May 2006 Jtdirl (Talk | contribs) unblocked Morton devonshire (contribs) (mispresentation of WP policy by blocker) 22:35, 3 May 2006 Cyde (Talk | contribs) blocked "Morton devonshire (contribs)" with an expiry time of 24 hours (AfD vote-stacking, don't do it again)

See converstation here.

Requests

• Can this user be booted for breaking wikipedia policy?
• Can he be banned from editing Allegations of state terrorism by United States of America?

Signed: Travb (talk) 00:36, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

The interpretation of diff logs is wrong

• Comment your interpretation of diff logs needs to be improved. Let's look at the real history: 1st time. Here you see the same diff. Is your argument that Tony Fox is also a sock puppet? What is happening is someone is removing MD's signature and he is simply replacing it. There is no evidence of sockpuppetry. As his comment says: Please stop harassing him. Here is the Orginal Edit. It is unsigned but clearly from MD. Someone put "unsigned by MD" later and MD corrected it with the real signature. People who can read diff logs will see this. There is no evidence of Sock Puppetry. --Tbeatty 01:11, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
• I am also surprised that you haven't seen the term "POV cruft" more often that you think it's rare.--Tbeatty 01:16, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Tbeatty is not telling the truth, here is the proof

You are not telling the truth. You are using a common trick, adding two distant edits to make it look like something else.

Here is the entire edit history:

• (cur) (last) 23:26, 18 August 2006 Travb (Talk | contribs) (→Use of Sockpuppets to Avoid Scrutiny)
• (cur) (last) 22:32, 18 August 2006 Morton devonshire (Talk | contribs) (→Use of Sockpuppets to Avoid Scrutiny)
• (cur) (last) 22:31, 18 August 2006 Morton devonshire (Talk | contribs) (→Use of Sockpuppets to Avoid Scrutiny - please do not harass me)
• (cur) (last) 22:29, 18 August 2006 Tony Fox (Talk | contribs) (→Afd? - - erm...)
• (cur) (last) 22:20, 18 August 2006 Rootology (Talk | contribs) (do not remove other people's comments.)
• (cur) (last) 22:18, 18 August 2006 Morton devonshire (Talk | contribs) (→Use of Sockpuppets to Avoid Scrutiny - my mistake)
• (cur) (last) 22:07, 18 August 2006 TheOnlyChoice (Talk | contribs) (Afd?)
• (cur) (last) 22:03, 18 August 2006 Paraphelion (Talk | contribs) (→Use of Sockpuppets to Avoid Scrutiny)
• (cur) (last) 21:58, 18 August 2006 Seabhcan (Talk | contribs) (→Ganser and ST911.org - moved discussion from my talk page)
• (cur) (last) 21:55, 18 August 2006 Seabhcan (Talk | contribs) (→Ganser and ST911.org)
• (cur) (last) 21:21, 18 August 2006 Morton devonshire (Talk | contribs) m (→Use of Sockpuppets to Avoid Scrutiny)
• (cur) (last) 21:21, 18 August 2006 Morton devonshire (Talk | contribs) (→Sources - Using Sockpuppets to Avoid Scrutiny From Other Editors)
• (cur) (last) 22:03, 18 August 2006 Paraphelion (Talk | contribs) (→Use of Sockpuppets to Avoid Scrutiny)
• (cur) (last) 21:58, 18 August 2006 Seabhcan (Talk | contribs) (→Ganser and ST911.org - moved discussion from my talk page)
• (cur) (last) 21:55, 18 August 2006 Seabhcan (Talk | contribs) (→Ganser and ST911.org)
• (cur) (last) 21:21, 18 August 2006 Morton devonshire (Talk | contribs) m (→Use of Sockpuppets to Avoid Scrutiny)
• (cur) (last) 21:21, 18 August 2006 Morton devonshire (Talk | contribs) (→Sources - Using Sockpuppets to Avoid Scrutiny From Other Editors)
• (cur) (last) 21:12, 18 August 2006 NYCJosh (Talk | contribs) (→My suggestion, hybrid of Trav's: Terrorism in the United States)

What User:Tbeatty wrote:

• Comment your interpretation of diff logs needs to be improved. Let's look at the real history: 1st time. Here you see the same diff. Is your argument that Tony Fox is also a sock puppet? What is happening is someone is removing MD's signature and he is simply replacing it. There is no evidence of sockpuppetry. As his comment says: Please stop harassing him. Here is the Orginal Edit. It is unsigned but clearly from MD. Someone put "unsigned by MD" later and MD corrected it with the real signature. People who can read diff logs will see this. There is no evidence of Sock Puppetry. --Tbeatty 01:11, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

My contention is:

User:Tbeatty is a liar, this statment is completely false:

Comment your interpretation of diff logs needs to be improved. Let's look at the real history: 1st time. Here you see the same diff. Is your argument that Tony Fox is also a sock puppet? What is happening is someone is removing MD's signature and he is simply replacing it.

He is attempting to confuse those who review Misplaced Pages:Suspected sock puppets, by using a section which has nothing to do with the alleged sock puppet. I am going to report this to the admin board. Travb (talk) 01:32, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Assaults On My Character

I emphatically deny that I am User:TheOnlyChoice, and quite frankly I am tired of Travb's attempts to have me punished. Please run a checkuser on me and User:TheOnlyChoice -- go ahead. We are not the same person. As Clint would say: Go ahead punk, make my day!  : ) Morton devonshire 01:01, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Then why did User:TheOnlyChoice sign his name "--unsigned by Morton devonshire" ironically in a message about sockpuppets? Then 11 minutes later User:Morton devonshire (yourself) state "my mistake" and add signed name? Why did you right my mistake Morty?

I have seen it in court cases on television: the defended screams "assualt on my character" right up until he is convicted. This is the only evidence you can provide, an accusation that this is an "Assault On My Character"? Travb (talk) 01:06, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

You are simply incorrect. The paragraph was clearly added by MD. Your mistake is that User:TheOnlyChoice even added the "unsigned". Diff logs show differences but only the edits on the right can be definitively attributed to an editor. Go to the previous diffs here and you clearly can see that TheOnlyChoice didn't add unsigned. You cannot read diffs and are making an incorrect and unfounded accusation. --Tbeatty 01:22, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

User:Tbeatty you are not telling the truth (see above). I am going to report you to the admin, for defending an alleged sockpuppeter with a false history logs. Travb (talk) 01:35, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Travb you are in error and you are not assuming good faith on this issue. TBeatty is telling you the truth. Æon 01:46, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Walkthrough

1. Morton posts sockpuppet policy and does not sign it
2. Paraphelion adds unsigned to the post and comments that Morton should have signed it
3. TheOnlyChoice posts AfD comment
4. Morton signs his original post that Paraphelion added unsigned tag to
5. Rootology removed Mortons signature and puts back unsigned, not really sure why.
6. Tony Fox commenting on AfD section post from TheOnlyChoice
7. Morton resigns his original post
8. Morton posts "uhh yeah" in reponse to paraphelions comment about him not signing.
9. Trav comments in reply to morton, that morton wrote that, the comment at this point is self signed by morton he acknowledges he wrote it and has signed it now 3 times.
10. Trav insults a group of editors (sorry had to include this)
11. Trav moves around my comments, you really shouldnt do this btw.
12. Trav replies to himself asking Morton why he brings up sockpuppets
13. Trav eludes one of the "deletionists", rofl I love this term now, is a sockpuppet.
14. Trav accuses Morton of being a sockpuppet because Morton mentioned them, then TheOnlyChoice posted about AfD ... I dont see the connection myself.
15. Trav says Morton changed his name from TheOnlyChoice to Morton.

I would like to point out that the evidence Trav posts is incorrect, because the statement being edited, shown above, is actually Morton signing his own post, not a post that was once signed TheOnlyChoice. Good Job Trav, please listen to those more experienced TBeatty was trying to educate you to how the difs work. --zero faults 01:50, 19 August 2006 (UTC)