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{{subst:Arbitration case request | |||
|Scientology R2-45: Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence | |||
|admin = no | |||
|party2 = The Wordsmith | |||
|P2 admin = yes | |||
|party3 = Prioryman | |||
|P3 admin = no | |||
|party4 = Feoffer | |||
|P4 admin = no | |||
|party5 = Damotclese | |||
|P5 admin = no | |||
|party6 = Slashme | |||
|P6 admin = no | |||
|party7 = Thimbleweed | |||
|P7 admin = no | |||
|otherDRsteps = | |||
*] on whether the is a ] to support extraordinary criminal allegations. | |||
*] on copyright violations of (1) an image used in the article and (2) a link to a page hosting an unlicensed copyright recording. | |||
*]. Admin decided image is in violation and deleted it. The file had been uploaded and linked by Feoffer . | |||
*]. I reopened to get definitive answer on ]. Instead of an answer on copyright, I was threatened with being blocked. | |||
*]. I reopened a second time to get definitive answer on WP:ELNEVER. It was answered and I closed the question. | |||
*]. I asked for enforcement of the Scientology 2009 provisions on Prioryman. | |||
*]. A week later, Prioryman retaliated with a counter-request for sanctions against me. | |||
*]. I appealed the 12-month topic ban sanction. | |||
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|statement = ({{user|BiologistBabe}} was a minor ] member.) | |||
A TEAM of editors/administrator is working against ] to advocate against Scientology. The editors of ] use/d ]ed quotes, blog speculations, an image in violation of ], a single book mention from 50 years ago (no other critical books mention the subject), and ] theory from a non-expert to accuse Scientology of | |||
#publishing lists of people to be killed, | |||
#death threats to intimidate enemies, | |||
#ordering people to commit suicide, | |||
#advising believers to commit suicide, and | |||
#being founded by a "]". ] cites a diagnosis by sociology professor ], though Kent is not a psychiatrist, never met Hubbard personally, worked from anecdotes, and did not have the essay peer reviewed by psychiatrists or published in a psychiatric journal. The diagnosis is not in standard medical texts, and Kent is considered FRINGE by members of his own field (as told on the Misplaced Pages page). | |||
Conspiracy to murder and threat to murder are criminal accusations. All these allegations are highly infamous and need reliable sources, but these are the weakest. The article violates ]: "Any exceptional claim requires ''multiple'' high-quality sources." But as one TEAM member Thimbleweed admitted: ''The problem here is that '''there aren't any proper secondary sources''', we'll have to make do with what we have.'' None of the other TEAM members objected to that assessment. | |||
Yet the TEAM has repeatedly agreed on the talk page that the article is in tip-top shape, | |||
and two members of the TEAM have nominated it for GA., | |||
In AE, '''The Wordsmith''' deprecated Prioryman's editing violations: "The sources are an editorial matter, not a disciplinary one."] But under Arbcom , editorial and content violations are sanctionable. There is real factor of ]. The accusation reaches into present time because Hubbard's words are dogma for the church. The Church leaders, now and in the past, are alive and known by name. Every person who identifies as a Scientologist from ] to John Doe is accused of being in a murder-suicide cult. | |||
Not all editors named edited this article. But all added "consensus". | |||
I am topic banned for a year (as of June 1) for opposing the TEAM. '''The Wordsmith''' presided over the AE, which was wrong: | |||
# '''The Wordsmith''' has a private collection of Scientology literature and knows more about the cult than "most Scientologists" -- i.e., possible ] (cultist or ex-cultist) | |||
# After filing the AE, complainant Prioryman canvassed '''The Wordsmith''' to preside over the proceeding. | |||
# '''The Wordsmith''' banned me as an SPA,] which proved false in the appeal. | |||
# '''The Wordsmith''' announced that secret information justified the banning, convincing others to affirm the sanction, but later admitted the secret information was untrue. | |||
The findings were reversed, but the ban remains in place. And the members of the ] TEAM are in violation of Scn ArbCom. | |||
'''NB The Process:''' The sanction "was, in fact, suggested by an Arbitrator I consulted for advice". That Arbitrator should be identified and recused. | |||
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{{subst:Arbitration case request |Scientology R2-45: Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence
|admin = no
|party2 = The Wordsmith |P2 admin = yes
|party3 = Prioryman |P3 admin = no
|party4 = Feoffer |P4 admin = no
|party5 = Damotclese |P5 admin = no
|party6 = Slashme |P6 admin = no
|party7 = Thimbleweed |P7 admin = no
|otherDRsteps =
- 8 April 2016 - Query to RSN on whether the Tony Ortega blog is a WP:RS to support extraordinary criminal allegations.
- 15 April 2016 - Query to ANI on copyright violations of (1) an image used in the article and (2) a link to a page hosting an unlicensed copyright recording.
- 21 April 2016 - FFD decision. Admin decided image is in violation and deleted it. The file had been uploaded and linked by Feoffer on 15 April 2016.
- 30 April 2016 - Query to ANI. I reopened to get definitive answer on WP:ELNEVER. Instead of an answer on copyright, I was threatened with being blocked.
- 5 May 2016 - Query to ANI. I reopened a second time to get definitive answer on WP:ELNEVER. It was answered and I closed the question.
- 26 may 2016 - AE closure. I asked for enforcement of the Scientology 2009 provisions on Prioryman.
- 30 May 2016 - AE closure. A week later, Prioryman retaliated with a counter-request for sanctions against me.
- 6 June 2016 - AE appeal closure. I appealed the 12-month topic ban sanction.
|statement = (BiologistBabe (talk · contribs) was a minor WP:TEAM member.)
A TEAM of editors/administrator is working against Scientology arbitration of 2009 to advocate against Scientology. The editors of R2-45 use/d WP:cherrypicked quotes, blog speculations, an image in violation of WP:COPYVIO, a single book mention from 50 years ago (no other critical books mention the subject), and WP:FRINGE theory from a non-expert to accuse Scientology of
- publishing lists of people to be killed,
- death threats to intimidate enemies,
- ordering people to commit suicide,
- advising believers to commit suicide, and
- being founded by a "malignant narcissist". R2-45 cites a diagnosis by sociology professor Stephen A. Kent, though Kent is not a psychiatrist, never met Hubbard personally, worked from anecdotes, and did not have the essay peer reviewed by psychiatrists or published in a psychiatric journal. The diagnosis is not in standard medical texts, and Kent is considered FRINGE by members of his own field (as told on the Misplaced Pages page).
Conspiracy to murder and threat to murder are criminal accusations. All these allegations are highly infamous and need reliable sources, but these are the weakest. The article violates WP:REDFLAG: "Any exceptional claim requires multiple high-quality sources." But as one TEAM member Thimbleweed admitted: The problem here is that there aren't any proper secondary sources, we'll have to make do with what we have. None of the other TEAM members objected to that assessment.
Yet the TEAM has repeatedly agreed on the talk page that the article is in tip-top shape, and two members of the TEAM have nominated it for GA.,
In AE, The Wordsmith deprecated Prioryman's editing violations: "The sources are an editorial matter, not a disciplinary one."] But under Arbcom , editorial and content violations are sanctionable. There is real factor of WP:BLP. The accusation reaches into present time because Hubbard's words are dogma for the church. The Church leaders, now and in the past, are alive and known by name. Every person who identifies as a Scientologist from Tom Cruise to John Doe is accused of being in a murder-suicide cult.
Not all editors named edited this article. But all added "consensus".
I am topic banned for a year (as of June 1) for opposing the TEAM. The Wordsmith presided over the AE, which was wrong:
- The Wordsmith has a private collection of Scientology literature and knows more about the cult than "most Scientologists" -- i.e., possible WP:COI (cultist or ex-cultist)
- After filing the AE, complainant Prioryman canvassed The Wordsmith to preside over the proceeding.
- The Wordsmith banned me as an SPA,WP:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive193#Sfarney which proved false in the appeal.
- The Wordsmith announced that secret information justified the banning, convincing others to affirm the sanction, but later admitted the secret information was untrue.
The findings were reversed, but the ban remains in place. And the members of the R2-45 TEAM are in violation of Scn ArbCom.
NB The Process: The sanction "was, in fact, suggested by an Arbitrator I consulted for advice". That Arbitrator should be identified and recused.
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