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It was the question before if die/dice was regional and ENGVAR applied (that discussion never finished), but now both (American English) and (British English) describe dice as singular. OED says "die" is uncommon and MW even gives the possible plural "dices". Clear is that "die" is dated, though perhaps not yet obsolete. Either way I've changed it. ] (]) 14:00, 4 July 2016 (UTC) |
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It was the question before if die/dice was regional and ENGVAR applied (that discussion never finished), but now both (American English) and (British English) describe dice as singular. OED says "die" is uncommon and MW even gives the possible plural "dices". Clear is that "die" is dated, though perhaps not yet obsolete. Either way I've changed it. ] (]) 14:00, 4 July 2016 (UTC) |
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:Please don't. Though it may be dismissed as pedantry, the sheer number of sources that use "die" as singular and "dice" as plural is overwhelming when looking at the best quality sources, including the ones used throughout the article. The problem, as always, when defaulting to dictionary listings is they are descriptive based on all sources, while a technical description uses more specific sources. Again, like the ones in the article. When the predominance of sources used in the article use "die" as singular, so should be article itself. Plus there's the fact that the article has been stable with the usage for years. I have reverted your change. ] (]) 15:36, 4 July 2016 (UTC) |
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:Please don't. Though it may be dismissed as pedantry, the sheer number of sources that use "die" as singular and "dice" as plural is overwhelming when looking at the best quality sources, including the ones used throughout the article. The problem, as always, when defaulting to dictionary listings is they are descriptive based on all sources, while a technical description uses more specific sources. Again, like the ones in the article. When the predominance of sources used in the article use "die" as singular, so should be article itself. Plus there's the fact that the article has been stable with the usage for years. I have reverted your change. ] (]) 15:36, 4 July 2016 (UTC) |
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:::PS, the M-W entry refers to "dices" only in relation to food cut into cubes, not to the analog random number generators this article is about. It also only refers to cubical (six-sided; d6) dice, and ignores polyhedral dice, which make up a significant portion of this article. So, again, I note that it's not a high-quality source for the purposes of this article. ] (]) 00:07, 6 July 2016 (UTC) |
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::I can't recall ever hearing a person say "a dice". I hear things like "roll the die" when used singularly, never "roll the dice" when referring to a single die. ] (]) 03:40, 5 July 2016 (UTC) |
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::I can't recall ever hearing a person say "a dice". I hear things like "roll the die" when used singularly, never "roll the dice" when referring to a single die. ] (]) 03:40, 5 July 2016 (UTC) |
I was looking at this page in mobile view, and the image at the top of the page (at least) appeared to extend outside of the box for it, covering some of the page text. If it's necessary, I was using an iPad (unsure of version: school-owned) in a horizontal orientation. RETheUgly (talk) 17:57, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
Hello all,
I just took a picture of an old die I saw at a museum dating back to 2000 B.C. Should I upload this to the Misplaced Pages Commons image page?
It was the question before if die/dice was regional and ENGVAR applied (that discussion never finished), but now both Merriam-Webster (American English) and Oxford English dictionary (British English) describe dice as singular. OED says "die" is uncommon and MW even gives the possible plural "dices". Clear is that "die" is dated, though perhaps not yet obsolete. Either way I've changed it. Bataaf van Oranje (Prinsgezinde) (talk) 14:00, 4 July 2016 (UTC)