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Revision as of 01:46, 9 September 2006

Fan Sites

Okay well never knew fan sites couldnt be added,dont own any here by the way.

Atul83 05:22, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Links

I am well aware of what the content of the external links section should contain, having read WP:EL already. Under WP:EL it states: On articles about topics with many fansites, including a link to one major fansite may be appropriate, marking the link as such. All of the articles I added such links to are articles with many fansites. I added a link to one major fansite and marked it as one.

Oh, and I'm not a newbie. 70.48.166.140 19:09, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

My IP has changed but this is the same person as above. I thought I'd let you know that I re-added the fansites to those articles (Shakira, Kirsten Dunst, Beyoncé and Rihanna) as it is well within the guidelines of WP:EL. 67.68.139.179 16:36, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Speedy deletes

A better reason for speedys (like the one you had on Don kretch) is WP:CSD#A7 (what I deleted it under). Just thought you might want to know for future reference). —— Eagle (ask me for help) 22:51, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Sara Evans image

As you said in your message to me regarding this topic, the image does not appear on the site, this is not entirely true, yes it does not appear on www.dancingwithsara.com but it does appear on a subpage:

http://www.dancingwithsara.com/MeetSara/tabid/57/Default.aspx

I have changed the image information to reflect that, is it now settled?

Faris b 23:22, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

No, you also need to prove that this is a promotional image. The terms of use (http://www.dancingwithsara.com/MeetSara/tabid/57/ctl/Terms/Default.aspx) state that all contents are copyrighted and all rights are reserved. This implies that this image is not part of a promotional kit, as you have been claiming, and that we cannot use the image on the Misplaced Pages. Additionally, the license requires that you provide a detailed fair-use rationale which you have not yet done (though as noted, I do not believe we can use this image). --Yamla 23:25, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, but I'm not up on all these terms and such, if it's not promotional, what would you call it then? Can you at least try to work with me on this instead of poo pooing everything when I try to help? No offense intended. What would you call it? Music sample or something rather? Sara Evans doesn't have any photo gallery on any of her sites, so I figured that was a promo image in a way.

Faris b 23:28, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Well, according to the license, we are not permitted to use the image at all. I cannot see any license that would be appropriate for this image. As a general rule, Misplaced Pages tries to avoid copyrighted images, preferring free images instead. I'm sorry I can't be more help but I cannot see any license that would be appropriate for this image. --Yamla 23:34, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Fine, I understand your're angle now, but I'm sure your familiar with the user Ebegoun, he's been blocked at least twice for uploading images all the time, I've had talks with him and he won't listen, personally, I was fine with the old, old image that's been on the page forever but he keeps putting current ones that he's finding on google and listing several sites as the copyright holders when they aren't, I did this in an attempt to at least find one correct image and have it stay that way, as he keeps doing this and I'm tired of seeing the page with 1 pic for a few days then it's gone the next, I did this in an attempt to stop all these deletes from happening.

Yes, I'm monitoring Ebegoun's actions. --Yamla 23:40, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Also, why do we even need to fuss with all these liscensings? It's for an encyclopedia so why do we need it? It's not like we're priting out the images and selling them so why does it affect that site?

Well, copyright law doesn't permit the use of copyrighted images except under fair-use, even for non-commercial sites. But note that Misplaced Pages actually is (at least planning to) burn DVD's with the images and distribute them, possibly technically for profit. --Yamla 23:40, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

I though so, so why not block Ebegoun permanently? He doesn't strike me as the type to learn from past mistakes.

We are assuming good faith (see WP:AGF) and dealing with the matter using escalating blocks. --Yamla 23:45, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Ok, well, that's complicated I'm sure, but why does Wiki want to burn DVD's with images and sell them? That sounds kind of odd to me.

Faris b 23:43, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Many people do not have access to the Internet. A complete snapshot of the Misplaced Pages along with (perhaps a subset of) the images could be quite useful. The DVDs would likely be distributed at a very low cost, only enough to cover distribution costs or perhaps to help support Misplaced Pages generally. However, either would likely fall into the legal definition of "distribution for profit". --Yamla 23:45, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Ok, well, how many more blocks does he have left before the last one? Just wondering.

Really? Just about everyone has internet these days it seems, who are these who don't have it? So, is it a DVD of just images or complete off line web pages?

Faris b 23:48, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Long-Overdue RfA Thanks from Alphachimp

Thanks for your support in my not-so-recent RfA, which was successful with a an overwhelmingly flattering and deeply humbling total of 138/2/2 (putting me #10 on the RfA WP:100). I guess infinite monkey theorem has been officially proven. Chimps really can get somewhere on Misplaced Pages. With new buttons come great responsibility, and I'll try my best to live up to your expectations. If you need assistance with something, don't hesitate to swing by my talk page or email me (trust me, I do respond :)). The same goes for any complaints or comments in regard to my administrative actions. Remember, I'm here for you. (Thanks go to Blnguyen for the incredible photo to the right.) alphaChimp 01:20, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

I know I like chimps :) (oh wait...) alphaChimp 01:20, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

What are you talking about?

How was that image unacceptable? It was tagged as a publicity photo. Nqnpipnr 02:57, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

You provided no evidence that the image was released for promotional purposes. It came from a site that explicitly does not release their images freely, and you presented no evidence that this image was an exception or that you had paid the mandatory $225 fee for this image. Finally, even with these issues aside, you forgot the mandatory detailed fair-use rationale explicitly required by the license you chose. --Yamla 04:46, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Hmm, I didn't notice that on the photo's source site. My mistake. I'll look into it more clearly next time. Nqnpipnr 20:28, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Flops

Well, Poseidon cost $160 million and made $60 million...so that would be considered a flop, no? Ohyeahmormons 17:32, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:Schoolgirl.jpg reply

Thanks for bringing that to my attention Yamla, but I must admit I don't quite understand the reason why the "promo" tag doesn't cover this image. Yes, it isn't in a press kit, but it is used to promote the sale of the costume on probably a dozen or more websites, and therefore seems to conform to "advertising" in my opinion. I did provide a link to one of these websites, which I think does qualify as providing evidence of its source. I would appreciate it if you could clarify this issue. Thanks again. -- Grandpafootsoldier 17:52, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Corbin Bleu.jpg

I don't have time to provide a fair use rationale for the image, school keeps me way to busy, so I just deleted it. --lightdarkness 18:11, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

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There was no reason to revert my edit to this image. It didn't have a fair use rational, and was flagged as such, so I added part of the equation using the character-artwork template. Just because someone edits Misplaced Pages sans username does not mean they are not familiar with its policies, are "testing", or vandalizing. 71.240.9.37 22:28, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

User:Viogfernos user conduct RFC

Hi, I notice you have had recent difficulty with Viogfernos blanking warnings. I've opened an RFC regarding him here which you may wish to comment on. It deals mainly with incivility and mislabelling others' edits as vandalism. I don't know exactly how this works, whether I'm supposed to contact everyone who might have a problem with him... but I figured you might be interested. Thanks, Fuzzypeg☻ 01:14, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Image:Jennifer Aniston Pic.jpg

Hey Yamla! Thanxs for the heads-up. I added an additional source for the image, along with a small rational. I do not have the official copyright information, but I believe that the image is a promotional image. If you need me to add anything else, please feel free to leave me a message on my talk page. Have fun editing! =D Jumping cheese 21:56, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

It does look like a promotional image. However, you are going to need a detailed fair-use rationale. See Help:Image page for information on detailed fair-use rationales. Thanks! --Yamla 22:01, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Sure thing. I'll get right on it! ^_^ Jumping cheese 22:03, 5 September 2006 (UTC)