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:I also encourage you to look at the talk-histories and the histories of other pages between myself and ]. For example, you'll note in his request to the NPA board, Ian asked for me to be "banned" from all science-related articles. This is pure vexatious litigation. He doesn't want me to edit articles regarding subjects he holds dear because subjects he holds dear tend to be marginalized by the scientific community and I usually write about such marginalization in relevant articles. Ian has attempted for the last few years to get me railroaded off of Misplaced Pages. He has thus far been unsuccessful. --] 12:31, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
:I also encourage you to look at the talk-histories and the histories of other pages between myself and ]. For example, you'll note in his request to the NPA board, Ian asked for me to be "banned" from all science-related articles. This is pure vexatious litigation. He doesn't want me to edit articles regarding subjects he holds dear because subjects he holds dear tend to be marginalized by the scientific community and I usually write about such marginalization in relevant articles. Ian has attempted for the last few years to get me railroaded off of Misplaced Pages. He has thus far been unsuccessful. --] 12:31, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Shell, I am very sorry to drag you into all this. As you can see, ScienceApologist disagrees. I refer to my comments and ''evidence'' presented earlier. I do not dispute that I have had a long history with ScienceApologist. --] 13:51, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for all of the warm wishes and generally nice thoughts sent in my direction. I have retired from all Wikimedia projects and turned in all my extra tools as a security measure (we all appreciate those now, don't we?). For those few of you who were disappointed at not getting a whole ton of gossip out of my explanation for leaving (and didn't think to ask me privately, duh) I can only offer this cartoon as penance. Best of luck to all of you and feel free to keep in touch (see above). Shell11:44, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
Not a problem. If you continue to have difficulties with that user, I'd suggest reporting them at WP:PAIN or drop me a line (if I'm not online, the noticeboard may be faster). Shell15:08, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
I am making a complete effort to leave WP and no longer wish to participate because of the actions of this Wiki-Facist ThuranX. ThuranX has started exact similar conflicts with others if you were to review his Talk page. I had no problems with any other editor if you were to investigate as the other one that had issue was able to resolve it with adult maturity. The childish reactions of this editor has made this a serious displeasure to particiapate on this forum and under the WP Rights to Vanish I requested deletion of my User and UserTalk pages ... which was granted. Upon which I also wish to have my comments deleted from this User Archive http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:ThuranX/Special_archive_1. If you were to actually read the beginning comments on that archive you will find no anger or harrassment that ThuranX claims was made in comment one. If this editor is so harrassed and in fear ... the solution is to delete my comments and I will disappear. I would have no reason for further communication with this person at that point. I am making an effort to go away and this editor will not let me leave! ThuranX if you want me gone, then delete the comments, that simple! Thank you kindly for your time in reading this! Peartdrumsticks17:13, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
The right to vanish is not the same as the right to delete all of your contributions. It most especially is not the right to fraudulenty place speedy tags on other user's pages. Shell17:16, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
Hello Shell, please keep in contact regarding this situation with this user. He has threatened legal actions against me, and from what you've said ont eh admin baords, possibly you too. Thank you. ThuranX01:29, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
I think the concern is that his account was the same as his business name, so now Google shows that archive of yours when you search for his business. You might consider just deleting the page now that he's indef blocked; if you find you need it at a later time, any admin can restore it. The best way to get a bully to go away is to ignore them. Shell01:42, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
Sounds like a good idea in some ways, however, that's what he wants, and I'm loathe to give in to terroristic behaviors and threats of legal sanctions. Further, it's my understanding that removing entire talk page sections like that is against wikipedia's policy, as is major removal of material from wikipedia. If this sort of deletion is allowed, what page can I find the procedure on? thank you again for all your help. ThuranX01:59, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
Typically talk page messages are archived and its usually considered bad form to archive recent warning messages or on-going discussions. In this case, we have to use our common sense; there were no warnings and since the user has left, there's no chance the conversation will resume. Since he's left, the conversation won't be needed for anything and if anything ever came up, an administrator could undelete it.
I can see why you might feel that you're giving in to his demands, but really, is the page doing you any good? Is it worth continued harassment? If you'd rather put up with him, you're welcome to keep it. Personally, I'd probably find it better to have it over with. Shell05:22, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
Well ironically, I would have done so, but since he just initiated a lawsuit against me, and then contacted me via three separate emails, my lawyer has advised me to hold all pages intact with their edit histories readily accessible and verifiable for the police. This guy is insane. I have no idea why he thinks he can sue me for this, but he's now characterizing my comments as slanderous. He's tracked down all my personal information, and acts in such a threatening manner that I'm meeting with my lawyer to discuss restraining orders and a criminal investigation. You might have time yet to avoid this guy's insanity, but I'm afraid he's going to physically come after me, and I'm taking action to protect myself and my family now. The more he keeps this up, the more people will find about him when googling. ThuranX21:23, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
I'm really sorry to hear that. I was under the impression he just wanted them removed :( At this point you're both telling me completely different stories. Since I have no way of knowing who's telling the truth, I'd prefer if both of you left me out of any further issues you decide to have. Shell11:26, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Okay, I see. Confusingly similar filenames. In any case, I restored the original one (with an underscore), which does not have that restrictive license. Thanks. --Bovineone22:05, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
Not to worry, it took me a minute too - I thought I might have removed the wrong one. I'm glad there's another one that works out for the article :) Shell02:17, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
Wikiproject Shark
Hi,
You closed this as an A7. Huh? I don't get it -- it isn't just that this CSD applies to articles only: I don't know what you mean to say here. Sharks aren't notable? Sure they are... I'm confused. I haven't reverted the closure; I just want a sensible explanation for it. Best wishes, Xoloz16:08, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
As the statements that were on WP:PAIN for days said, there seemed to be serious incivility on the parts of many editors. Since this appears to be more of a content dispute than serious personal attacks, I suggest that you try dispute resolution to resolve the difficulties. Shell20:43, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
If you're already using dispute resolution, can I ask why you would bring this report? We block for preventative, not punative reasons. You're headed the right direction since using dispute resolution will either help change the editors behavior or eventually lead to firmer sanctions than are possible with the noticeboard. Shell20:55, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
Also, in regard to that RfC - it would be helpful to have are few older examples as well to show a pattern of this behavior. Shell21:12, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
Removal of photo of Max Kenworthy
Hi,
You removed the photo of Max Kenworthy. I created the page, am a friend and associate of Max and he provided me with the photo. I stated as much in the description and picked whatever license seemed most appropriate - what more can I do to prevent the photo from being removed? Please reply via email: matt@deity.co.nz
Ah, I see. You uploaded it as permission for Misplaced Pages to use it. Unfortunately, while this seems to make sense, since Misplaced Pages has to be free to allow others to disribute its content at will, release to only Misplaced Pages doesn't actually work out and those images get deleted. Check out WP:TAG which lists all of the acceptable image tags and see if you can find the one that fits closest. I'll go ahead and undelete the image for you in the meantime. Just make sure you tag it and list its source in 7 days, or it'll show up for deletion again. Shell12:37, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
Helper tools - dropdown
BTW, I noticed that in your monobook.js file, you have the SRC for these. I think I accidently posted that for a while as a copy-past mistake in the explaination subpage. I'd remove the lines below "Helper tools - dropdown" where it tries to include (src) a css file, which does not make any sense.Voice-of-All17:31, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
That must have been it. Guess that'll teach me to trust you implicitly ;) Thanks for all the great tools. Shell03:22, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
While I appreciate your comments and warning, I think you should know that you have thrust yourself into an extremely long-running conflict (that has lasted more than a year) that has nothing to do with actual personal attacks and everything to do with content disputes. I would point out that Ian did not offer any direct evidence that shows I was "personally attacking" Eric Lerner, he just assumes that my edits to the page somehow defame him. I can assure you this is not the case. I at no time personally attacked Eric Lerner, but I have myself been the recipient of numerous attacks by User:Elerner. If you'd like, I'll show you the evidence, but I'm not interested in getting into a long-winded battle of evidence. Basically, I like to give editors infinite second-chances and always hope for the best. This said, I will not refrain from editting this particular page because what I am including on the page is better text and prose from an editorial, neutrality, and verifiable standpoint. Despite offering over and over again, the substantive issues I edit about are actively ignored by certain users who ally themselves with User:Elerner who has a hand in writing a version of an article that marginalized criticism while heaping praise upon his work. What's more, User:Elerner refuses to engage me in discussion of the substantive claims he continues to remove. This is a problem with WP:AUTO, as others have pointed out, and I in no way am "attacking" this person by trying to get the article to conform more closely to the reality of the marginalization of this particular character in the astronomical community. We already have an Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Elerner about this and related issues.
I also encourage you to look at the talk-histories and the histories of other pages between myself and User:Iantresman. For example, you'll note in his request to the NPA board, Ian asked for me to be "banned" from all science-related articles. This is pure vexatious litigation. He doesn't want me to edit articles regarding subjects he holds dear because subjects he holds dear tend to be marginalized by the scientific community and I usually write about such marginalization in relevant articles. Ian has attempted for the last few years to get me railroaded off of Misplaced Pages. He has thus far been unsuccessful. --ScienceApologist12:31, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Shell, I am very sorry to drag you into all this. As you can see, ScienceApologist disagrees. I refer to my comments and evidence presented earlier. I do not dispute that I have had a long history with ScienceApologist. --Iantresman13:51, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
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