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This talk page is getting really excessive...

The amount of activity on this talk page in the last couple weeks has been rather excessive to say the least. Since at least some of these are the result of content disputes being dragged to this talk page, I propose we put a notice of some sort at the top of the page saying that this is not the place for the discussion of individual content disputes, but rather the policy itself. --tjstrf 23:20, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

This is typical when individuals with personal agendas try to shape policy to better accommodate their views. If an individual or faction repeatedly hammers away at a proposed but rejected change to the point of taking over discussions on other topics and thus the page, it will at that point be obviously disruptive. Such single-minded yammering then can be removed to a subpage or a user's talk page. Should they continue to disrupt this page there's always RFC. FeloniousMonk 18:42, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

I've archived the page. The previous major discussion was fruitless and getting disruptive. FeloniousMonk 18:50, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Excessive and disruptive. How? It seems that some folks actually were beginning to see that certain administrators and editors have been gaming the system for too long, and the need to mandate neutral, non-polemical language was making certain folks uncomfortable.

The Wikilawyering and misuse of the NPOV rule has been the issue.

The NPOV rule needs plain language to prevent admins/editors with visible agendas from gaming the system, and using their power to make the rule meaningless. Let's allow the system to work, instead of resorting to personal attacks against well-meaning individuals whose views make certain people feel threatened.

I appeal to the Misplaced Pages community to make the NPOV rule all that it should be, guaranteeing that even the most controversial figures and movements are treated fairly and non-polemically.

If neutrality doesn't mean what it says, then it's meaningless. Opinions in content are unavoidable no matter who includes the material, but slant and bias in included POV and language nullify the NPOV

rule. Plain language is needed to keep the unscrupulous from gaming the system.--Pravknight 21:15, 22 September 2006 (UTC)