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I have done my best to verify the information in it, but the claims are just astoundingly and blatantly false. 1,600 dead from evacuation, and 1,599 dead from the earthquake, with no corresponding source to back those numbers up? Authors opining about accepted science, and attempting to imply that all increases in thyroid cancer are attributable to stress, over radiation? I will be watching this article from now on, and I will be doing my best to recommend administrative action against anyone deliberately attempting to manipulate this article in a non-encyclopedic fashion.--] (]) 07:47, 25 April 2017 (UTC) | I have done my best to verify the information in it, but the claims are just astoundingly and blatantly false. 1,600 dead from evacuation, and 1,599 dead from the earthquake, with no corresponding source to back those numbers up? Authors opining about accepted science, and attempting to imply that all increases in thyroid cancer are attributable to stress, over radiation? I will be watching this article from now on, and I will be doing my best to recommend administrative action against anyone deliberately attempting to manipulate this article in a non-encyclopedic fashion.--] (]) 07:47, 25 April 2017 (UTC) | ||
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::That is a personal attack. Apologise and retract immediately.--] (]) 09:16, 26 April 2017 (UTC) | |||
Flailing about and screaming Propaganda! Doesn't make that more ok.] (]) 08:25, 25 April 2017 (UTC) | |||
::That is a personal attack. Apologise and retract immediately.--] (]) 09:16, 26 April 2017 (UTC) | |||
:Also, what unsourced material are you contesting? So far you have only removed and challenged reliably sourced information. I did remove , which was sourced but tangential. ] (]) 15:20, 25 April 2017 (UTC) | :Also, what unsourced material are you contesting? So far you have only removed and challenged reliably sourced information. I did remove , which was sourced but tangential. ] (]) 15:20, 25 April 2017 (UTC) | ||
::The information that was removed. I will detail it piece by piece here. As I have already requested that you discuss these, rather than edit warring, only to be ignored, I don't expect that you will act in good faith, but I now believe that I have to do this in order to demonstrate that you have taken ownership of this article.--] (]) 09:16, 26 April 2017 (UTC) |
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A question of balance
It seems that Chernobyl is mentioned 36 times in this article, which is surprising given that we already have the Comparison of Fukushima and Chernobyl nuclear accidents. I notice that radiation experts Tilman Ruff and Ian Fairlie, who have written much on Fukushima are not mentioned at all. This leaves the article rather skewed and unbalanced. Johnfos (talk) 05:55, 21 May 2016 (UTC)
Date Consistency
While reading this article, I became confused on dating. There are a number of passages where a month by month progression is entered, and the entry is a day/month progression, but no year. The sections often have multiple sequences like this and they do not reference the year. There are more than a few locations where the timeline jumps from 2011 to 2012, then back to 2011 without providing any sense of timeline that is accurate. I know it would be best to provide specific examples, at this time I cannot, but I will attempt to update the sections that need revision soon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:1600:823F:E532:8F2A:D0A9:BF2F (talk) 20:19, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
- Yes, there really is no reason not to include the year in every date reference, which is also encouraged by the manual of style at WP:YEAR. Just be sure to add the correct year; you recently changed a 2011 to 2012 inaccurately. VQuakr (talk) 22:56, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
Extraneous "citation needed" tag
@Senor Freebie: re this, a citation has been provided, . Putting the same ref at the end of both sentences is not editorially favorable. Your edit summary appears to express your personal opinion and analysis, which of course is wholly irrelevant. Can you better articulate a policy-based reason for the tag? VQuakr (talk) 00:46, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
- On second thought, we can probably handle a duplicate callout. I added a second source, , as well. VQuakr (talk) 04:06, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
- The source that you added contradicted the un-scientific, un-encyclopedic information you appear to be intent on including in this article. Please discuss this in good faith, and in detail, before proceeding unilaterally. I have trimmed a large amount of baseless and unsourced information, and it's clear that there has been an attempt at providing misinformation here. It's concerning that instead of doing the same, and attempting to improve the accuracy of the article, you have instead insisted that this material is supported.--Senor Freebie (talk) 07:50, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
- From 2nd the source provided: "Although radiation may cause cancer at high doses and high dose rates, public health data do not absolutely establish the occurrence of cancer following exposure to low doses and dose rates — below about 10,000 mrem (100 mSv)." You need to get consensus for these removals prior to blanking; your proposed removal has been contested. VQuakr (talk) 08:15, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
- The source that you added contradicted the un-scientific, un-encyclopedic information you appear to be intent on including in this article. Please discuss this in good faith, and in detail, before proceeding unilaterally. I have trimmed a large amount of baseless and unsourced information, and it's clear that there has been an attempt at providing misinformation here. It's concerning that instead of doing the same, and attempting to improve the accuracy of the article, you have instead insisted that this material is supported.--Senor Freebie (talk) 07:50, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
WTF
¿Qué coño significa esto? 600 suviets every hour? They cannot even send the robots to take pictures? Even Flexpart stopped to show out data? Please, wise wikieditors of this article, check out this and go deeper than I am able to: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/feb/03/fukushima-daiichi-radiation-levels-highest-since-2011-meltdown Gracias and best regards. 45.254.247.178 (talk) 02:09, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
- Yes, ~600 Sv/hr has been estimated. That is inside the containment vessel, underneath the pressure vessel near where the fuel melted through. VQuakr (talk) 04:24, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
- Actual readings are only ~210 Sv/hr inside Unit 2's containment vessel. The initial ~600 Sv/hr readings were calculated very roughly based on corruption from radiation in photographs, the later reading is from an actual proper detection instrument sent into the same area. Garzfoth (talk) 02:03, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
References
- Beser, Ari (22 February 2017). "After Alarmingly High Radiation Levels Detected, What Are the Facts in Fukushima?". National Geographic Society (blogs). National Geographic Society. Retrieved 9 April 2017.
This article is filled with unsourced, and utterly ridiculous propaganda.
I have done my best to verify the information in it, but the claims are just astoundingly and blatantly false. 1,600 dead from evacuation, and 1,599 dead from the earthquake, with no corresponding source to back those numbers up? Authors opining about accepted science, and attempting to imply that all increases in thyroid cancer are attributable to stress, over radiation? I will be watching this article from now on, and I will be doing my best to recommend administrative action against anyone deliberately attempting to manipulate this article in a non-encyclopedic fashion.--Senor Freebie (talk) 07:47, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
- WP:AGF, etc. VQuakr (talk) 08:16, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
- You are removing cited content because it doesn't fit your understanding of the topic.VQuakr (talk) 08:25, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
- That is a personal attack. Apologise and retract immediately.--Senor Freebie (talk) 09:16, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
Flailing about and screaming Propaganda! Doesn't make that more ok.VQuakr (talk) 08:25, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
- That is a personal attack. Apologise and retract immediately.--Senor Freebie (talk) 09:16, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
- Also, what unsourced material are you contesting? So far you have only removed and challenged reliably sourced information. I did remove , which was sourced but tangential. VQuakr (talk) 15:20, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
- The information that was removed. I will detail it piece by piece here. As I have already requested that you discuss these, rather than edit warring, only to be ignored, I don't expect that you will act in good faith, but I now believe that I have to do this in order to demonstrate that you have taken ownership of this article.--Senor Freebie (talk) 09:16, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
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