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| *'''Delete or rename''' I think the title of the page is biased since it suggests that Barre was targeting Isaaq. that's untrue, because several major Isaaq cities such as ] and ] remaied virtually untouched by Barre. Also, Barre in general targeted others such as the ] community who are part of his own larger Darod tribe. Such POV can be remedied by a change in article title with a rewrite, such as ]. If thats impossible, then I suggest a delete, because this article as it stands is misinforming. ] (]) 11:39, 13 May 2017 (UTC) | *'''Delete or rename''' I think the title of the page is biased since it suggests that Barre was targeting Isaaq. that's untrue, because several major Isaaq cities such as ] and ] remaied virtually untouched by Barre. Also, Barre in general targeted others such as the ] community who are part of his own larger Darod tribe. Such POV can be remedied by a change in article title with a rewrite, such as ]. If thats impossible, then I suggest a delete, because this article as it stands is misinforming. Futhermore the ] "Isaaq genocide" is well known as primarily a promotion tactic used by advocates of Somaliland independence to promote secession. Therefore this title falls foul of Misplaced Pages's neutral point of view policies. ] (]) 11:39, 13 May 2017 (UTC) | ||
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Isaaq genocide
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Reason Somajeeste (talk) 04:00, 13 May 2017 (UTC) Isaaq genocide (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log · Stats)
- Comment the article is trying to make it seem that the Isaaq clan of Somalis solely were targeted by the regime. This is not the case as illustrated below by the many sources provided, the Hawiye and Majerteen suffered the same problem. Secondly the Isaaq are not a different people or ethnic, but are rather Somalis themselves, so the term genocide would not be fitting for the title in accordance with the Encyclopedia Britannica. Moreover I believe every form of clan cleansing or massacre should be discussed in 1 page as this article could lead to a Pandora box of different pages discussing the atrocities committed to certain Somali clans. The author in this case is trying to portray the Isaaq as different or more special than other Somalis, WP:Propaganda.. Last but not least the Isaaq clan are not victims themselves and a combined SNM+Ethiopian unit has mounted attacks on neighboring clans, leveling their main towns to the ground, killing thousands and causing around 80.000 to flee over the border into Ethiopia and killing hundreds of non-combat civilians in the Sanaag region. . differences between them and other clans as they are all ethnic Somalis. . Those differences are what legally defines a genocide.. In addition, the majority of the events already mentioned and those of other clans are current present on the Somali Rebellion article. as AcdiSnow mentioned on talk page After reviewing this users past edits, such as: continuously removing its territorial dispute with neighboring region Puntland in favor of Somaliland (see here, here, here, here, here, and here), changing the map of Somaliland to present it as separate nation (see here, here, and here), removing the disputed Khatumo State (see here), and changing Somalia's map to present its dispute with its Somaliland region as if it had some form of international recognition (see here, here, and here), the majority of the events already mentioned and those of other clans are current present on the Somali Rebellion article. this article seems to be further WP:PROPAGANDA. Due to the reasons mentioned this article should be deleted. Somajeeste (talk) 04:00, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. Jupitus Smart 04:33, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Africa-related deletion discussions. Jupitus Smart 04:33, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Somalia-related deletion discussions. Jupitus Smart 04:33, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
- Delete or rename I think the title of the page is biased since it suggests that Barre was targeting Isaaq. that's untrue, because several major Isaaq cities such as Borama and Erigabo remaied virtually untouched by Barre. Also, Barre in general targeted others such as the Majeerteen community who are part of his own larger Darod tribe. Such POV can be remedied by a change in article title with a rewrite, such as Somalia massacres (1988-1991). If thats impossible, then I suggest a delete, because this article as it stands is misinforming. Futhermore the neologism "Isaaq genocide" is well known as primarily a promotion tactic used by advocates of Somaliland independence to promote secession. Therefore this title falls foul of Misplaced Pages's neutral point of view policies. 92.6.188.30 (talk) 11:39, 13 May 2017 (UTC)