| Revision as of 14:03, 1 June 2017 editPaulmlieberman (talk | contribs)Extended confirmed users3,693 edits →Eggcorn vs. Mondegreen← Previous edit | Revision as of 15:16, 6 July 2017 edit undoNuttyskin (talk | contribs)Extended confirmed users5,127 editsNo edit summaryTags: Mobile edit Mobile web editNext edit → | ||
| Line 17: | Line 17: | ||
| The article seems to imply that eggcorns are different from mondegreens in some important but unstated way. As far as I can tell they are different words for the same phenomenon, which is fine. Is there any real well sourced linguistic distinction or can we just say that both Geoffrey Pullum and Sylvia Wright both independently noticed the phenomenon and each gave it a different name? ] (]) 22:27, 31 May 2017 (UTC) | The article seems to imply that eggcorns are different from mondegreens in some important but unstated way. As far as I can tell they are different words for the same phenomenon, which is fine. Is there any real well sourced linguistic distinction or can we just say that both Geoffrey Pullum and Sylvia Wright both independently noticed the phenomenon and each gave it a different name? ] (]) 22:27, 31 May 2017 (UTC) | ||
| :Yes, there is a difference. An eggcorn uses words that sound similar (and have not, as with mondegreens, been misheard) to words or phrases, ''and'' have a meaning that is similar to the original term. Example: '''old-timer's disease''' for '''''Alzheimer's Disease'''''. A mondegreen, such as '''wrapped up like a douche''', has nothing to do with the original '''''revved up like a deuce'''''. Paulmlieberman (]) 14:03, 1 June 2017 (UTC) | :Yes, there is a difference. An eggcorn uses words that sound similar (and have not, as with mondegreens, been misheard) to words or phrases, ''and'' have a meaning that is similar to the original term. Example: '''old-timer's disease''' for '''''Alzheimer's Disease'''''. A mondegreen, such as '''wrapped up like a douche''', has nothing to do with the original '''''revved up like a deuce'''''. Paulmlieberman (]) 14:03, 1 June 2017 (UTC) | ||
| ::::However, ''like'' mondegreens, an eggcorn often arises when a wird or expression has been communicated verbally. It may then pass into common currency in a written medium, typically the Internet. Witness ''all of the sudden'' and ''a whole nother''. ] (]) 15:16, 6 July 2017 (UTC) | |||
| == External links modified == | == External links modified == | ||
Revision as of 15:16, 6 July 2017
 | Linguistics Start‑class | |||||||||
| ||||||||||
 | This article was nominated for deletion on 21 December 2006. The result of the discussion was keep/speedy keep. |
 Archives | ||||||
|
||||||
Changes come slowly; don't chomp on the bit!
Somebody recently added "chomp on the bit" as an eggcorn for "champ on the bit". It was reverted, and I heartily agree. An eggcorn typically adds a bit of information, or humor, or both to the meaning of the original. The phrase "chomp on the bit", as a variation of "champ on the bit", does neither. It is a result of a shift in English. The term "champ" meaning "to bit or chew noisily" has become antiquated and rarely used, and has been replaced by "chomp". See for more. Paulmlieberman (talk) 13:59, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
An eggcorn I encountered in the diaries of the mass-murderer Fred West: "car of van" for "caravan". Nuttyskin (talk) 05:02, 4 April 2017 (UTC) Nuttyskin (talk) 05:02, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
Eggcorn vs. Mondegreen
The article seems to imply that eggcorns are different from mondegreens in some important but unstated way. As far as I can tell they are different words for the same phenomenon, which is fine. Is there any real well sourced linguistic distinction or can we just say that both Geoffrey Pullum and Sylvia Wright both independently noticed the phenomenon and each gave it a different name? Nolandda (talk) 22:27, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
- Yes, there is a difference. An eggcorn uses words that sound similar (and have not, as with mondegreens, been misheard) to words or phrases, and have a meaning that is similar to the original term. Example: old-timer's disease for Alzheimer's Disease. A mondegreen, such as wrapped up like a douche, has nothing to do with the original revved up like a deuce. Paulmlieberman (talk) 14:03, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
- However, like mondegreens, an eggcorn often arises when a wird or expression has been communicated verbally. It may then pass into common currency in a written medium, typically the Internet. Witness all of the sudden and a whole nother. Nuttyskin (talk) 15:16, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
External links modified
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified one external link on Eggcorn. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20060709191315/http://www.psychologytoday.com:80/articles/pto-20060214-000002.html to http://psychologytoday.com/articles/pto-20060214-000002.html
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true or failed to let others know (documentation at {{Sourcecheck}}).
Y An editor has reviewed this edit and fixed any errors that were found.
- If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
- If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 06:33, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
Categories: