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	I think the article should address the following about the interior: Who has access to the interior and when? Are ceremonies held inside and what are they? What is used to get up to the high doors (i.e., ladder, ramp, staircase)? Are photographs or other illustrations allowed? Can any be shown on the page? ] (])		I think the article should address the following about the interior: Who has access to the interior and when? Are ceremonies held inside and what are they? What is used to get up to the high doors (i.e., ladder, ramp, staircase)? Are photographs or other illustrations allowed? Can any be shown on the page? ] (])
	:{{reply to\|WikiParker}} The interior is accessible through a locked door, but these are only open twice a year if I'm correct. Images of the interior being in the public domain are something I doubt, but if we speak to someone extremely knowledgeable about the fair use criteria barriers, then perhaps we could include it. ] (]) 18:52, 30 May 2017 (UTC)		:{{reply to\|WikiParker}} The interior is accessible through a locked door, but these are only open twice a year if I'm correct. Images of the interior being in the public domain are something I doubt, but if we speak to someone extremely knowledgeable about the fair use criteria barriers, then perhaps we could include it. ] (]) 18:52, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

	== Keys ==

	According to ], the items in the Şadırvanlı Sofa include keys to the Kaaba.

	Should this also be mentioned in this article? ] (]) 08:45, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

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Interior

I think the article should address the following about the interior: Who has access to the interior and when? Are ceremonies held inside and what are they? What is used to get up to the high doors (i.e., ladder, ramp, staircase)? Are photographs or other illustrations allowed? Can any be shown on the page? WikiParker (talk)

@WikiParker: The interior is accessible through a locked door, but these are only open twice a year if I'm correct. Images of the interior being in the public domain are something I doubt, but if we speak to someone extremely knowledgeable about the fair use criteria barriers, then perhaps we could include it. Emir of Misplaced Pages (talk) 18:52, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Modern views In Islamic traditional views on origin?

The last paragraph contained views of Karen Armstrong except parts of claims based on Ibn Ishaq. However some of the views of Armstrong do not mention her info from any Islamic traditional sources on anything that can be construed what is only from Islamic view. User:Debresser reverted my edit in which I had moved it. I moved it without explaining so sorry for that. As there are other views besides that of Armstrong, like of Uri Rubin, Winfried Corduan etc I've added them as well. However Armstrong's view and pf all others not directly from any Islamic sources should be shifted to modern independent views. 169.149.143.147 (talk) 17:46, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

Done It has been restored to the correct location. Debresser (talk) 18:04, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

Yeah I definitely agree. Unless what the authors says came from a medieval Muslim religious source, it should be separate. 59.89.41.170 (talk) 19:15, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

"Scientific Perspective"

Scientific perspective

The below section was added to the article, and I removed it because I think it misrepresents 'science'. I don't think there is any science which supports the view, but it is rather a religious view. I think saying it is a scientific perspective is erroneous. What do other people think?

There are views that Kaaba is the centre of the earth. As per some scientific perspective it is said to be 'the centre around which the earth's centre goes every lunar month'. It is also called the 'bary centre' on which earth monthly wobble.

; Open your eyes, by:Ansar Khan Open your eyes, p.35
The Confluence of Religions: A Scientific Perspective; p.32; Author: Hari Narayan Malla [ https://books.google.com/books?isbn=9993379107]; p.32

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