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"The only European cave-dwelling chordate" ?
Chordata is the phylum that includes all mammals, amphibians, reptiles, etc. It's very hard to believe that there are no European cave bats, cave bears, etc.
I think that the author responsible for that statement means "the only European cave-dwelling caudate" - the order of salamanders and such. Anybody know what's right here? Peter Delmonte 04:01, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
I second that. Fish are chordates also and there are plenty of cave-dwelling fish. Eregli bob 04:28, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
- The statement "the only European cave-dwelling chordate" is correct, if you take "cave-dwelling" to mean "troglobite" (as the link also suggests). Cave bats, cave bears and cave fish are all fine, but they aren't troglobites, since they don't live their entire lives underground. Troglophiles or trogloxenes yes, troglobites, no. This page provides some definitions. And no, there's no troglobite fish in Europe. I reverted the statement accordingly. --Yerpo 12:38, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
- It would be nice if someone came up with a citation for this - there's no other mention of it in the article, so it's unreferenced. Allens (talk | contribs) 16:50, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
- I can't remember the original reference. Is AmphibiaWeb considered reliable enough? It says "Proteus is the only cave-adapted vertebrate in Europe" under Comments, which is only slightly more specific. — Yerpo 18:54, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
- I would think AmphibiaWeb would be considered sufficiently reliable. (Of course, said page also notes that it's possible it actually is multiple species... it'd be greatly preferable for someone to write a review article including that, of course!) At this point, what is needed is the placement of the info (regarding vertebrates) somewhere in the article other than the lead, with the citation. Allens (talk | contribs) 20:04, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
- Other than this bare fact, I don't know what more can be said about the issue, so I'm not sure where can we put it without it looking out of place. — Yerpo 20:28, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
- I would think AmphibiaWeb would be considered sufficiently reliable. (Of course, said page also notes that it's possible it actually is multiple species... it'd be greatly preferable for someone to write a review article including that, of course!) At this point, what is needed is the placement of the info (regarding vertebrates) somewhere in the article other than the lead, with the citation. Allens (talk | contribs) 20:04, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
- I can't remember the original reference. Is AmphibiaWeb considered reliable enough? It says "Proteus is the only cave-adapted vertebrate in Europe" under Comments, which is only slightly more specific. — Yerpo 18:54, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
Copyright/plagarism issue that needs to be corrected immediately
I nocticed that "Sensory organs" and its subsections are copied almost word for word from AmphibiaWeb. Someone needs to re-paraphrased this. LittleJerry (talk) 01:55, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
- The AmphibiaWeb's author, Boris Bulog, is User:BORIS BL who contributed this section of the article, so there's no copyvio. — Yerpo 07:25, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
- Jerry is correct. Unless the source is under a free license (which it's not), then this is a copyright violation–it doesn't matter if the author is the same. Sasata (talk) 07:46, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
- AmphibiaWeb is not the source, but a separate publication of the same content from the same author that he chose to license differently. I understand if it seems suspicious to people not familiar with the issue, so I can ask him to provide an OTRS grant. — Yerpo 07:54, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
- Please do so. LittleJerry (talk) 19:54, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
- He agreed to send the mail to permissions-en; I'll post the {{OTRS-pending}} template when I get the word that he did it. — Yerpo 13:33, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
FAR Notice
I'm planning on taking this nomination to FAR but before I do that I want to mention the issues I see on the talk page. The only issues I see on it are the citation needed tags on the different sections on the page. As such it currently fail 1.c of the criteria for Featured Articles. GamerPro64 02:20, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
- Please wait until next week before doing that. Most of the CNs concern really minor details (which is why they've been ignored) and I'll fix the issues by then. — Yerpo 07:42, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
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