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	:The link provided reaches the main page. I do not know where to click to locate the content above. ] (]) 14:13, 6 December 2017 (UTC)		:The link provided reaches the main page. I do not know where to click to locate the content above. ] (]) 14:13, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
	::Well everything is there - the only thing that website is there for, is to inform about the new law, and it is the govt. ''official'' site for this information. Unless you want to go through the law itself, which is also linked there (in a danish version), no single link is going to be adequate. I can, if needed, link every sentence to specific subpages, but that will mean that we'll have 5-10 different links to this site. --] 15:13, 20 December 2017 (UTC)		::Well everything is there - the only thing that website is there for, is to inform about the new law, and it is the govt. ''official'' site for this information. Unless you want to go through the law itself, which is also linked there (in a danish version), no single link is going to be adequate. I can, if needed, link every sentence to specific subpages, but that will mean that we'll have 5-10 different links to this site. --] 15:13, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
	:::Alternatively i could cite the law and the paragraphs in the law that requires this. For instance §2.1.1 states the 10ml limit, and §2.2 the 2ml tank/cartridge limit - but this would mean that we cite the danish lawtext. --] 15:24, 20 December 2017 (UTC)		::Alternatively i could cite the law and the paragraphs in the law that requires this. For instance §2.1.1 states the 10ml limit, and §2.2 the 2ml tank/cartridge limit - but this would mean that we cite the danish lawtext. --] 15:24, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

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(Notice cross posted to: Electronic cigarette, Safety of electronic cigarettes, Legal status of electronic cigarettes, Positions of medical organizations regarding electronic cigarettes, Electronic cigarette aerosol, Cloud-chasing & vape shop. Please focus any discussion on the main page

There is an ArbCom case pending related to this family of topics. SPACKlick (talk) 11:36, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Update Reference

Hi. I couldn't figure out how to edit a reference. In the sentence "In Norway the sale and use of electronic cigarettes are legal, but nicotine cartridges can only be imported from other EEA member states (e.g. the UK) for private use.", the second link (27) doesn't work anymore. The new link can be found at the bottom of this side: http://www.legemiddelverket.no/Import_og_salg/Import-og-grossistvirksomhet/Elektroniske_sigaretter/Sider/default.aspx The new document link is: http://www.legemiddelverket.no/Import_og_salg/Import-og-grossistvirksomhet/Elektroniske_sigaretter/Documents/regulering-av-elektroniske-sigaretter-i-norge-notat-6-12-11.pdf Please update the article. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.3.128.195 (talk) 21:38, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

I updated the ref. QuackGuru (talk) 22:04, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

Archiving

The archiving of this page has been far too sudden. Blanking the page is not normal on WP. Please ask on the talk page before doing this again, QG. Clearing out the page just encourages people to raise the same issues again and again. Johnbod (talk) 03:34, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

Canada references

http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/rowan-warr-hunter-e-cigarettes-freedom-to-vape

The interpretation of the Canadian legal status of nicotine containing liquids reflected in this article is disputed. There have been no prosecutions, though the sale of nicotine containing liquids is widespread and open in retail and online locations. I'm digging for more substantial sources, but essentially, there is an exemption for nicotine for human inhalation use in amounts less than 4 mg per dose. Paleking (talk) 18:54, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

What used to be Schedule F of the regulations is now:

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/dhp-mps/alt_formats/pdf/prodpharma/pdl-ord/pdl_list_fin_ord-eng.pdf

see page 23 for nicotine. Paleking (talk) 19:03, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

It only mentions the standard types of Nicotine replacement therapy like chewing-gum & inhalers. If it covered e-cigs I'm sure it would spell that out, & this would have been covered in other tertiary sources. Johnbod (talk) 19:28, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

That's the point. No other references to nicotine in the act or its regulations. The list provided designates nicotine as a prescription drug "except: ... (d) in a form to be administered orally by means of an inhalation device delivering 4 milligrams or less of nicotine per dosage unit;". Perhaps identify the dispute: "Though Health Canada asserts that nicotine-containing e-fluid is illegal to sell, some vendors assert that the product is exempted by the regulations." Paleking (talk) 20:53, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

Warr-Hunter, Rowan. "E-cigarettes — Freedom to vape". National Post. National Post. Retrieved 18 September 2015.
"E-cigarette seller fights Health Canada order to stop". CBC News. CBC. Retrieved 18 September 2015.

Those refs date to early 2014; they don't seem to have got far in the legal action. Johnbod (talk) 03:46, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

@Johnbod in response to the pdf. It says "inhalation device", it does not describe what kind of device. A e-cigarette is an inhalation device, it produces vapor for inhalation. One of the definitions of inhalation is "a preparation to be inhaled in the form of a vapor or spray".AlbinoFerret 17:59, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

I thought (and think) they meant the licensed "inhalator" NRT devices. But I suppose that's the issue. I can't really see that tank models have a "dosage unit". Johnbod (talk) 01:44, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

new Zealand laws

the piece on New Zealand laws are utterly false, and the citation (citation 86) leads to a BBC article the refers only to UK laws with no reference to new zealand at all. new zealand bans the sale of nicotine containing E-juice and nothing else, the vapes are legal in any and all form, and may be sold anywhere. references to this are http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/67186317/E-cigarette-nicotine-ban-criticised http://www.nzvapingalliance.co.nz/resources/ http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11324232

i personally have no idea on how to edit an article, so hopefully someone can correct the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.250.228.64 (talk) 09:45, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Table

The table that was recently added is too long to read which makes it more difficult to read the section. QuackGuru (talk) 21:24, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

Denmark

Text for Denmark is severely outdated, and should be rewritten (on the line of):

Denmark follows the EU tobacco products directive: Max 10ml refill bottles, max 20mg/ml e-liquid, max 2ml tanks/cartridges. Legal age for purchase is 18. Smokefree laws do not apply. Vaping is prohibited in public transport, kindergartens and schools for youth below 18. No restrictions for non-nicotine e-liquids. E-liquids and vaporizer equipment are required to be notified with the Danish Safety Technology Authority via the EU-CEG system, before being allowed on the market, this goes for crossborder sales into Denmark as well.

--Kim D. Petersen 10:40, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

Danish Safety Technology Authority. "Necessary knowledge of electronic cigarettes".

The link provided reaches the main page. I do not know where to click to locate the content above. QuackGuru (talk) 14:13, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Well everything is there - the only thing that website is there for, is to inform about the new law, and it is the govt. official site for this information. Unless you want to go through the law itself, which is also linked there (in a danish version), no single link is going to be adequate. I can, if needed, link every sentence to specific subpages, but that will mean that we'll have 5-10 different links to this site. --Kim D. Petersen 15:13, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

Alternatively i could cite the law and the paragraphs in the law that requires this. For instance §2.1.1 states the 10ml limit, and §2.2 the 2ml tank/cartridge limit - but this would mean that we cite the danish lawtext. --Kim D. Petersen 15:24, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

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