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K12 (company)

Hello John from Idegon -- I have been battling with Bennett19000, a WP:SPA over what I believe is an WP:NPOV presentation for K12 (company). It's not yet an edit war, but I believe the article would be improved by the intervention of another set of experienced eyes. Would you please look at the article and history? If I need to be smacked, that's fine. Bennett has not responded to entreaties on the article talk page or her talk page. Rhadow (talk) 12:06, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

I'll take a look but honestly it's probably not going to be this week. This elf is pretty busy until after Christmas. May all the blessings of Him and His birthday be shared by all you love, Rhadow. John from Idegon (talk) 22:50, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

"tis the season...."

Hello John from Idegon: Enjoy the holiday season, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Misplaced Pages. Cheers, ―Buster7 ☎ 21:39, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

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No fancy template...

John, but just but to wish you happy holidays and all the best for 2018. It's probably a lot warmer where I am than where you are 😎 Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 02:49, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

Bite me. :-). Just got back from walking to the grocery. Wind chill is about 15°F. Hope and yours have a Merry Christmas and a blessed New year's. John from Idegon (talk) 04:05, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

Happy holidays, John! I continue to learn many new things from you and Kudpung. Sending greetings from Kyoto, Japan. Alex Shih (talk) 08:04, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

Happy Holidays

	Happy Holidays
	Wishing you a happy holiday season! Time flies and 2018 is around the corner. Thank you for your contributions. ~ K.e.coffman (talk) 00:34, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

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Hello I need help

I am trying my best to fix my family’s Misplaced Pages pages the category is recanati family I have disclosed my coi to everyone but still they are getting upset many things in the articles where dangerous errors and lies and half truths they sat for many years I would like to check them and make sure they are neutral

I came across this article a small portion involved my family I removed it as it has no sources https://en.wikipedia.org/1983_Israel_bank_stock_crisis the rest of the article is full of inflamtory world about other people can you please look at the article Flamingoflorida (talk) 05:16, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Flamingoflorida, I have no interest in helping you or any other editor that is on Misplaced Pages to promote their own agenda. If it were my decision, you'd be site banned immediately, the IP address you use blocked and every edit you've ever made immediately reverted. You're definitely barking up the wrong tree here, dawg, and I'm strongly advising you not to contact me again. No need to reply. John from Idegon (talk) 05:28, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Mike Bishop Article

Hello John from Idegon,

I was the one who initially created the content for those sections of the article. I'm the one who took them out. I believe now that what I had written had only come from one source and was not substantiated beyond that. I don't believe the content is useful as objective fact if it relies solely on one person's opinion, outside of other documents providing objective evidence.

The references provided come from only source, journalist Jack Lessenberry. I think that's too little to go on for everything I wrote in those two sections.

--The Invisible Walrus (talk) 17:37, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Hi, Spiteria. Edit summaries are a good thing. Please use them. On some level I agree with you, the sources seem rather "opinionated". However, I do find it bothersome that you feel since you originally added the content, that gives you the right to remove it. It doesn't. It's been in the article a while and no one else objected to it, so I'd appreciate it if you'd post a short bit on the talk page, describing your doubt about the sourcing. I won't object and if no one else does, feel free to remove it after a week or so. Thanks and Merry Christmas! John from Idegon (talk) 19:50, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Articles for Creation Reviewing

Hello, John from Idegon. AfC submissions Random submission ~8 weeks 1,806 pending submissionsPurge to update v t e I recently sent you an invitation to join NPP, but you also might be the right candidate for another related project, AfC, which is also extremely backlogged. Would you please consider becoming an Articles for Creation reviewer? Articles for Creation reviewers help new users learn the ropes of creating their first articles, and identify whether topics are suitable for inclusion in Misplaced Pages. Reviewing drafts doesn't take much time but it requires a good understanding of Misplaced Pages inclusion policies and guidelines; currently Misplaced Pages needs experienced users at this task. (After requesting to be added to the project, reviewing is not mandatory. One can do it at their convenience). But kindly read the reviewing instructions before making your decision. Thanks. — Insertcleverphrasehere 01:44, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, but I already am. I don't do much reviewing, as paid editing tends to piss me off and there is way too much of it at AfC, but I do use my tolls to deny poor, usually paid, articles that come to my attention at Teahouse and to approve others that I've worked with the editors on from their questions at Teahouse. Take care, and have a great 018. John from Idegon (talk) 01:53, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

Sorry. I know the feeling. AfC needs some new blood who aren't jaded by the whole thing, so I'm sending out some invites. — Insertcleverphrasehere 02:01, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

Joseph Tabbi article

Hi John. Happy to flesh out the Tabbi page, and I appreciate your feedback and links. Thanks for the welcome, and Happy New Year to you as well! Sundrium (talk) 03:46, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

Spanish Fort High School

Thanks for the eyes on that one. I first removed some of that material more than two years ago, so it's probably the same editor. Meters (talk) 05:57, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

The controversy crap is a total no go. Reminds me of Jackson High School (Michigan). I'm working on wikifying the article right now. John from Idegon (talk) 06:06, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

Bruno Fischer

Hi John, I wanted to let you know that I have removed the BLPROD from this article. I found a reasonably good reference on google books that may establish some notability. As the subject died in 1995, he would not have been in scope of BLPROD. If you believe he lacks notability, please feel free to AfD. _pseudonym Jake Brockman 08:23, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, Jake. I've unreviewed it so another editor can take a look and see. John from Idegon (talk) 08:26, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

RV/MH Hall of Fame wikilink in Elkhart, Indiana article

I don't see any reason why the RVHOF reference should be removed from the Elkhart article. The hall of fame is located less than two miles from city limits, it falls within the Elkhart metro area, is right on the line of the Elkhart urban area, it's at a highway interchange called "Elkhart East", it has an Elkhart street address/zip code, the website of the hall itself states on one of its webpages "Today, the Foundation maintains the national RV/MH Hall of Fame, Museum, Library and Conference Center at its headquarters in Elkhart, Indiana", and, most importantly, it relates to the content in the article section. Removing that would be akin to removing mention of the Cincinnati airport from Transportation in Cincinnati because it's in Kentucky. For that matter, the sentence before the one in question mentions completely different towns than Elkhart. The only contention was the actual location (which, BTW, is still ambiguous on the RVHOF article, infobox vs. body), and I addressed that in my compromise edit. Mapsax (talk) 15:11, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

The entire article reads like a guidebook. I'd not object to including the museum in the county article. And yes the sentence prior to that is crap too. However the presence of a turd in the living room in no way suggests the solution is to go out in the yard and bring more in the house. John from Idegon (talk) 18:31, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

There's WP:NOTTRAVEL but then there's giving an essence of the subject. Elkhart was essentially built on musical instruments and recreational vehicles, as the article says, and I believe that one of the best ways to back that up with notability is by mentioning Conn-Selmer and the RVHOF respectively, both of which have WP articles – you could argue WP:OTHERSTUFF but those articles don't ever seem to have had contention. It's just the respective locations that seem to be the problem, but note that Conn-Selmer is just barely within city limits itself: 100 feet or so according to Google Maps. The fact that the industries that define the city happen to fall on its outskirts now are just an offshoot of the fact that Elkhart never really grew enough to encompass its surrounding area, but that shouldn't be a deterrent, provided clarification is given. Mapsax (talk) 19:13, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

Justice High School

I've BOLD-ly redirected it to J. E. B. Stuart High School, which is how it was when I originally created it. If I'm reverted, let's take it to the merge discussion on the talk page rather than PROD or AFD, since I think we both agree a redirect is more appopriate than outright deletion. Also, you probably should have notified BRJ Advocate, who created the actual article content (as opposed to just the redirect), but as I effectively de-PRODded it with the redirect, it's a moot point now. Smartyllama (talk) 16:47, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

This should be fun. It's always fun dealing with a user whose name indicates a position on the article. John from Idegon (talk) 18:35, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

Arsenal Technical High School

You mentioned that my edits "were not an improvement", which is debatable, but what is not debatable is blatantly undoing EVERYTHING i added.

I performed a major edit with updates to the academic programs offered, the style of the article, and the addition of citations to building information.

I'm particularly upset about the building information, as I added specific details one would only find through 1930s Arsenal material.

Frannkly, blatantly undoing everything without even reading to see what was worth keeping and what is not is a serious violation of the Misplaced Pages spirit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Medinites (talk • contribs) 17:55, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

I love how someone who has been here a day comes here and lectures me who has been here 6 years on "the Misplaced Pages spirit". Don't worry, you're not the first. See WP:BRD. Follow its guidance. You made a bold edit (which is not gone, ye who knows so much about the spirit of Misplaced Pages....it's stored in the history of the article), which I reverted. Now go start a discussion on the article talk page about it like you should. You wouldn't know that as you have only been here a day and that was the only edit you've ever made, but now you do. I'd suggest before you dig too deeply into discussion, however, that you actually learn how Misplaced Pages works. Factors involved in the removal include WP:RS, WP:OR and the guidelines for school articles found at WP:SCH/AG. Getting pissed off will not help you. Every edit on Misplaced Pages is peer reviewed. If another editor finds fault with your work, it will get removed. That is how Misplaced Pages works. When it is removed, you start a rational discussion on the article's talk page, taking one piece at a time and defend it by discussing the sources you have and the policies that support its inclusion. Doing things incrementally is usually much easier, but again, you not having experience here, you didn't realize that. Please start with the most important pieces, probably history. Again, getting offended is not helpful. Did it cross your mind that the individual who laid the article out as it was (and is now after your changes were removed) may think the way they did it was great? Are they at your talk page screaming disruption at you? We are both here to build a better encyclopedia. Please start a discussion at the talk page after you have calmed down and read up some on how Misplaced Pages really works. Thanks. I hope you had a Merry Christmas and wish you a blessed 2018. Thanks, Medinites. John from Idegon (talk) 18:23, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

New Years new page backlog drive

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Castle High School

This is Castle's girl's squad warming up at Princeton during the Championship of the 2017 Toyota Classic. The boy's squad also wore uniforms in the same style. They've been wearing black for away games for almost 5 years now Rhatsa26X (talk) 04:22, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

You didn't start editing here yesterday. Verifiability trumps truth, every time. And what you saw or took o picture of them doing is WP:OR. John from Idegon (talk) 05:03, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

An additional note, Rhatsa26X. School colors do not always coincide with athletic uniform colors. I used to officiate basketball in Northern Indiana, SW Michigan and south-suburban Chicago in the 1980s. At that time, all three state sanctioning bodies had rules regarding the predominate color of uniforms and whether the home team wore lighter colors and the road team wore darker colors. My alma mater in NW Indiana whose colors are and always have been purple and gold, wore white uniforms at home and purple ones on the road, with gold and white lettering on the road uniforms and purple and gold lettering on the home uniforms. That didn't make white one of their school colors then, and it doesn't now. Another more current example is Boise State University. Their colors have been for many years orange and blue. Since they are one of the "Little Sisters of the Poor" schools and quite the media darlings, with Q-scores to go with it, Nike and other uniform manufacturers are more than happy to supply them with numerous uniforms. I've seen them play in black, silver and white uniforms, along with multiple combos of those colors with orange and blue. Last season, they did not wear the same color combo once. Obviously if there was some sort of correlation between the color of uniforms a school's athletes wear, and the school colors, that would not be possible. Rhatsa26X (talk) 19:36, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

Happy New Year

Happy New Year! Best wishes for 2018. —Donner60 (talk) 07:23, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

Thank you!

Beauty School Dropout (talk) 08:01, 31 December 2017 (UTC)