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No decision on photo montages has been made yet. Please discuss pros and cons of each option on the ]. No decision on photo montages has been made yet. Please discuss pros and cons of each option on the ].


=== Use appropriate format and size === === Format ===

⚫ * Drawings, icons, political maps, flags and other such images with
⚫ limited colors should be in ] format, preferably grayscale or
⚫ indexed color with fewer than 200 colors.
* Photos and photo-like maps should be in ] format.
* Animations should be in animated ] format.

In general, if you have a good image that is in the wrong format, convert it to the correct format before uploading. However, if you find a map, flag, etc in JPEG format, only convert it to PNG if this reduces the file size. For further advice on converting JPEG to PNG, see ].

⚫ Most of the maps on the ] website were coded as JPEG, but are now coded as GIF. To update these photos, download the GIF picture from the CIA factbook, recode it in PNG format, and upload it to wikipedia.

⚫ Try to avoid cropping or otherwise editing JPEGs too frequently--each edit creates more loss of quality. If you can find an original of a photograph in 16-bit or 24-bit PNG or TIFF, edit that, and save as JPEG before you upload.

⚫ Avoid images that mix photographic and iconic content.
⚫ Though ] makes it easy to use a PNG overlay on top of a JPEG image, the Misplaced Pages software does not allow such a technique.
⚫ Thus, both parts must be in the same file, and the quality of one or the other will suffer.

=== Size ===


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(perhaps the original source) is fine as well, but don't upload (perhaps the original source) is fine as well, but don't upload
the larger one unless it is really needed. the larger one unless it is really needed.

⚫ Drawings, icons, political maps, flags and other such images with
⚫ limited colors should be in ] format, preferably grayscale or
⚫ indexed color with fewer than 200 colors.
] images should be converted to PNG before upload unless they
are "animated" GIFs.
Do not use PNG for "photographic" images, unless that (or GIF) is the
only format available.

Photographic images should be in ] format, with quality settings
set to make a reasonably sized file. Do not use JPEG for iconic images or maps (except possibly for photo-like maps that show terrain and such).

If you find an original of a map or flag in JPEG format, only convert it to PNG if this reduces the file size. You may want to check if areas of the same color are not in fact areas of slightly differing colors because PNG compresses same-color areas much better. Your image editor's fill tool or Posterize command may be of help here.

See ] for a description of possible conversion pitfalls and how to overcome these.

⚫ Most of the maps from the ] website were coded as JPEG, but are now coded as GIF. To update these photos, save the GIF picture from the CIA factbook and recode it in PNG format. ''How??'' Do not recode the JPEGs in PNG format.

Try to avoid cropping or otherwise editing JPEGs too frequently--each edit creates more loss of quality.
⚫ If you can find an original of a photograph in 16-bit or 24-bit PNG or TIFF, edit that, and save as JPEG before you upload.

⚫ Avoid images that mix photographic and iconic content.
⚫ Though ] makes it easy to use a PNG overlay on top of a JPEG image, the Misplaced Pages software does not allow such a technique.
⚫ Thus, both parts must be in the same file, and the quality of one or the other will suffer.


==== Resizing ==== ==== Resizing ====

Revision as of 13:12, 15 April 2003

Rules of thumb

Here's a quick checklist of rules for use of images. After the list, a more detailed discussion explains the reasoning behind them.

  1. Always describe the image and where it came from on the description page. See Image Description page section below.
  2. Give the image a clear title that is unlikely to clash. "Washington.jpg" could be a a map or an image of the US state, the village of Washington in County Durham, or Washington DC; the former president of the USA, George Washington or any of the statues and memorials dedicated to him!
  3. Don't use tiny thumbnails; make small but viewable images 150-250 pixels across.
  4. Crop the images to show just the relevant subject.
  5. If you think having a larger image is necessary, include an ":image:..." link to the larger version on the description page of the smaller. Also include an ":image:..." link to the smaller version on the description page of the larger.
  6. Don't put rendered images on the description pages; they are for text.
  7. Don't put photo credits in articles or on the images themselves; put them on the description page.
  8. Use JPEG format for photographic images, with moderate quality settings.
  9. Use PNG format for icons, drawings, maps, flags, and such; but...
  10. Never convert a JPEG original to PNG; if JPEG is all you have, go ahead and use it.
  11. Do convert GIF images to PNG, except for "animated" GIFs.
  12. Encode sounds as 32K-64K bitrate mono Ogg Vorbis files.

meta:Image pages discusses technical improvements to the wikipedia software that may simplify much of this subject.

Details

The primary and most important policy is this: the purpose of the upload facilities of Misplaced Pages is to allow authors to upload illustrations to accompany articles. Don't upload images just because they're interesting, or because they might be useful in an article. Just upload ones that will actually be used.

Just like the articles, it is important that images follow the same guidelines about copyrights. Make sure you own the image, or that it is in the public domain, or that the copyright holder has agreed to license it under the GFDL. If the image is copyrighted and used here either with the author's permission or under fair use doctrine, make sure that fact is noted on the description page (see below).

Also like articles, they may be edited or deleted by others if they think that serves the purpose of making a better encyclopedia.

Image description page

Each uploaded file has an associated description page into which you can put text, and which shows the image's history and usage. This page should ideally include all of the following information, but if you don't know something, just put whatever you can:

  • brief description
    • Image of a goldfish in a small tank
  • Where the image came from
    • Photograph taken on 3 March 2003
    • Taken from the BBS News website
    • Scanned from copy of 1911 encyclopedia
  • Author of the image and any other credits
    • Photo by Fred Jones
  • If other versions (especially a larger version) of the same image exists, link to them
    • ] (])
    • ] (])
  • Copyright status
    • public domain: copyright expired
    • placed in public domain by photographer
    • released under the GFDL
    • released under the GFDL - in response to the boilerplate request for permission, Fred Jones said "That'd be fine"
    • copyrighted image - the author has given Misplaced Pages permission to use this image, but third parties may not use it without permission
    • copyrighted image - may only be used under "fair use" rules
  • Relevant links (internal and external)

Please avoid:

  • Adding a description in a language other than English.
  • Adding images themselves on the page (but see "photo montages" below)

Note that this information: image credits, copyright status, etc should go in the image description page, and not in articles that use the image, and not embedded as graphical text on the image itself. However, the image file may contain embedded comments - in particular a copyright notice and statement of license under the GFDL would be good to include.

Image titles

Descriptive titles are also useful. Uploading a file named, for example, "Africa.png" is likely to collide with one already present, and doesn't give any clue about its contents. A more descriptive name like "Africa_map_2002.png" is better. Avoid special characters in filenames or excessively long filenames, though, as that might make it difficult for some users to download the files onto their machines.

Photo montages

There are four different approaches to photo montages that different wikipedians take. Different approaches may be suitable for different subjects, or it may be possible to set a standard. The options are:

  1. photos at bottom of article (eg Rachel Corrie)
  2. photos on "images of" page (eg sheep, images of sheep)
  3. photos on an image description page (eg cattle)
  4. no photo montages allowed - only include a limited number of relevant photos

No decision on photo montages has been made yet. Please discuss pros and cons of each option on the talk page.

Format

  • Drawings, icons, political maps, flags and other such images with

limited colors should be in PNG format, preferably grayscale or indexed color with fewer than 200 colors.

  • Photos and photo-like maps should be in JPEG format.
  • Animations should be in animated GIF format.

In general, if you have a good image that is in the wrong format, convert it to the correct format before uploading. However, if you find a map, flag, etc in JPEG format, only convert it to PNG if this reduces the file size. For further advice on converting JPEG to PNG, see Misplaced Pages:How to reduce colors for saving a JPEG as PNG.

Most of the maps on the CIA World Factbook website were coded as JPEG, but are now coded as GIF. To update these photos, download the GIF picture from the CIA factbook, recode it in PNG format, and upload it to wikipedia.

Try to avoid cropping or otherwise editing JPEGs too frequently--each edit creates more loss of quality. If you can find an original of a photograph in 16-bit or 24-bit PNG or TIFF, edit that, and save as JPEG before you upload.

Avoid images that mix photographic and iconic content. Though CSS makes it easy to use a PNG overlay on top of a JPEG image, the Misplaced Pages software does not allow such a technique. Thus, both parts must be in the same file, and the quality of one or the other will suffer.

Size

This scalebar is red from 0 to 100 pixels, yellow from 100 to 150, green from 150 to 250, yellow again from 250 to 300 and red again from 300 to 400 pixels.

There are many technical hints in this section that some people may not have the tools or expertise to deal with themselves. If, for example, you find a great image that needs to be cropped, resized, or recoded and you don't know how to do that, ask someone on the Misplaced Pages-L list to do it for you.

Scale and crop images to a size appropriate for the article. Keep in mind that many readers are using 800x600 displays, and so images wider than 300-400 pixels may overwhelm the article. Larger images also take more time to download over slow links. Likewise, images smaller than 100 pixels wide may be difficult for users of larger displays to see. An optimum size for images with text flowing around them would be 150-250 pixels. Images without text on the side can be wider.

Of course image complexity is an important factor to consider when sizing images. Don't use tiny "thumbnail" images linked to a large image--use an image of the appropriate size; adding a link to a larger version (perhaps the original source) is fine as well, but don't upload the larger one unless it is really needed.

Resizing

When resizing large pictures to smaller ones for thumbnails:

  • Crop out unimportant background.
  • If possible, use an exact ratio, eg 3:1, 2:1, 4:1.
  • Work direct from the largest resolution available - if you have a 2048pixel version, work from that, not the 800pixel version uploaded.
  • Consider file size as well as image size - sometimes a version with more pixels but fewer bytes is preferable.
  • When making a thumbnailed version to replace someone else's (presumably inferior) thumbnail, please keep the same name as the original.

Recommended software

These software packages have been recommended by wikipedians for use in image manipulation:

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