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| * I am listed alone against three users who often took an opposing position. This makes it look like I am alone against the consensus, which is untrue. | * I am listed alone against three users who often took an opposing position. This makes it look like I am alone against the consensus, which is untrue. | ||
| :I don't really see that there are "sides" in this debate; ] has certainly agreed with you on many of the involved issues. I simply included those of us who have been involved in the dispute of late. We can certainly add others.] 02:24, 20 October 2006 (UTC) | :I don't really see that there are "sides" in this debate; ] has certainly agreed with you on many of the involved issues. I simply included those of us who have been involved in the dispute of late. We can certainly add others.] 02:24, 20 October 2006 (UTC) | ||
| * Issue #1. There has been a vote ] and even though I find such votes silly, the outcome may give some impression. | * Issue #1. There has been a vote ] and even though I find such votes silly, the outcome may give some impression. | ||
| :Yes, I do not see the relevance, though.] 02:24, 20 October 2006 (UTC) | :Yes, I do not see the relevance, though.] 02:24, 20 October 2006 (UTC) | ||
| :: The relevance is, the side that insisted that the Chrisitianity tag does not belong in the article describing this Christian organization has lost the vote. Instead of accepting that and moving on, that side goes to mediation. ←] <sup>]</sup> 23:20, 23 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
| * Issue #2. I find it inappropriate and offensive to even suggest that some group, other than religious leaders of mainstream Judaism, can redefine the basic principles of Judaism. | * Issue #2. I find it inappropriate and offensive to even suggest that some group, other than religious leaders of mainstream Judaism, can redefine the basic principles of Judaism. | ||
| :I agree completely. And indeed, that is at issue; whether you, or anyone here, can make a blanket claim about Judaism that may not be in accord with the views of some of its members.] 02:24, 20 October 2006 (UTC) | :I agree completely. And indeed, that is at issue; whether you, or anyone here, can make a blanket claim about Judaism that may not be in accord with the views of some of its members.] 02:24, 20 October 2006 (UTC) | ||
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Concerns
I have a few concerns about this case.
- I am listed alone against three users who often took an opposing position. This makes it look like I am alone against the consensus, which is untrue.
- I don't really see that there are "sides" in this debate; Homestarmy has certainly agreed with you on many of the involved issues. I simply included those of us who have been involved in the dispute of late. We can certainly add others.ParadoxTom 02:24, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
- Issue #1. There has been a vote Talk:Jews_for_Jesus/Archive2#straw_poll and even though I find such votes silly, the outcome may give some impression.
- Yes, I do not see the relevance, though.ParadoxTom 02:24, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
- The relevance is, the side that insisted that the Chrisitianity tag does not belong in the article describing this Christian organization has lost the vote. Instead of accepting that and moving on, that side goes to mediation. ←Humus sapiens 23:20, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
- Issue #2. I find it inappropriate and offensive to even suggest that some group, other than religious leaders of mainstream Judaism, can redefine the basic principles of Judaism.
- I agree completely. And indeed, that is at issue; whether you, or anyone here, can make a blanket claim about Judaism that may not be in accord with the views of some of its members.ParadoxTom 02:24, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
- The statement of religious leadership of mainstream Judaism on the subject is quoted in the article. ←Humus sapiens 23:14, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
- Issue #3. I thought we have already found a compromise and resolved it. ←Humus sapiens 00:59, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
- I too was wondering about the somewhat small group of participants, even though several of them haven't edited or talked on the article heavily recently, users such as User:Mantanmoreland, User:Abscissa, User:Jayjg, and User:Eliyak might have something to say. (Whatever happened to User:Justforasecond, did he really quit I suppose?) Homestarmy 01:18, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
- I think these issues are far from "resolved". Hence, the mediation.ParadoxTom 02:24, 20 October 2006 (UTC)