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My vandalism

The vandalism of your page was a one of. At school user Swinger222 told me to vandalise your page for a bet. So I did it. I am very sorry. DavidJJJ 12:15, 9 August 2006 (UTC) If you take a look at my contributions, you will see that I do contribute to the encyclopedia in a good way. DavidJJJ 12:36, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Heh, okay. I was just curious. It's been months and you havn't said why you did that out of the blue :P -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 19:52, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

editing the signatures of comments at Talk:Religious Ecstasy

Sorry for having to fix signatures for my comments - the comments were not from other users, they were all mine. Of course I would not sign comments of other people with my name! The username "HeIe 7" (with uppercase i as third letter) I registered also on my name because of warnings about possible abuse of the "uppercase i=lowercase L" problem, but I will avoid using this username in future. And the IP was mine, too. I fixed this because I think it is good to have all my comments under one username. Hele 7 23:20, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

You aren't supposed to sign things that could potentially be from other users, though. I'm going to add a small notice beside the contributions nothing that they were made under another username / IP. -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 23:48, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

What do you mean by "things that could potentially be from other users"? Anything I write could in principle be written by someone else. Btw, everybody can see the history. You can apply for IP check, if you do not believe that these are my comments. Hele 7 00:57, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Now you have labelled my comments as having been unsigned, although they never were, as everybody can see from the history. Could you fix this? And maybe you as a more experenced wiki user could extract some useful points from the discussion into this article and article about Ecstasy (emotion) which so sadly looks like a stub. Given the recent events, I'll stay on talk pages for a while. Hele 7 01:31, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Write something on the IP's userpage, and the other user's user page, proving that you're those users. Write them as those users, not as Hele 7. That should be fine acknowledgement. -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 04:48, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

I did this under HeIe 7. At the moment I am unlogged and the system will show you the IP, is this the sufficient proof about the IP or should I try to create an user page for the IP? Actually it were fine if some admin could delete this IP from wiki system at all. I do not need third username and I will even not bother to remember this number, as the IP is a dynamical one and may be different next time. 80.235.68.75 10:15, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Hele, pre-emptively creating an account like that is standard practice, but it's also standard to not use those accounts once created. I've tagged User:HeIe 7 with {{doppleganger}}. If you forget to login often the least confusing thing to do is to just remove the comment and put it back while logged into your named account. —Quarl 2006-08-13 10:00Z

I'm also no too sure about the religious ecstasy article. I might look at it later, but I have another couple of articles to clean up and really I'm trying to cut down my Misplaced Pages usage ;) -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 04:51, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

WP:RFA/Consumed Crustacean

Hi Consumed, I've nominated you for adminship at Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship/Consumed Crustacean.

You don't have 100% edit summary usage -- some RFA participants will object over this; you could promise to enable the Misplaced Pages preference for enforcing edit summaries. I recommend you look over some past RFAs to get a sense of how the community expects you to behave; for example, try not to take offense if people oppose you (there is one specific editor who opposes almost every nominee).

Whenever you're ready to accept, (1) indicate acceptance of the nomination that page, (2) answer the questions (I recommend a paragraph per question), (3) edit the closing time to be 7 days from your acceptance, and (4) edit WP:RFA to transclude your nomination with {{Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship/Consumed Crustacean}}.

RFA can be tough; if you have any questions let me know. Good luck :) —Quarl 2006-08-13 10:55Z

Good luck. Viridae 11:26, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks to both of you. It's on. I won't take it particularily hard if people oppose me, or if I lose; I'll just use it for self-improvement. -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 23:55, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

You may want to take a look at the concern raised in the first neutral vote. Many users consider it important that admins have emails (so they can get notes and requests from blocked users and other issues). JoshuaZ 01:21, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Good luck, mate. :) -- EdBoy 13:27, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

• I supported your RfA, it looks like it's going well. Though you may want to take down your anti-scientology note untill after the voting's over. I don't expect a potential admin not to have strong opinions - but a lot of other people do... You can always replace it in a week. Ifnord 15:15, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

I have removed it, though it's already been pointed out by a couple of editors. Oh well. I have not once POV-pushed and I'm not about to start. -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 21:20, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Hey

Excuse me but can you just give an editor a moment to establish a page before you start redirecting and adding templates. Thanks you.--Zleitzen 00:08, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

The article is a list of artists. A list of artists belongs in an article called "List of artists". Is this particularily wrong? If you meant to have the list of artists inside the main Cuban Art article, this isn't recommended; you should have them seperate and linked with a See also. -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 00:09, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

As well, what's the harm in having an {{unsourced}} template in there until you add sources? Heck, it's just a reminder. -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 00:10, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

It's an article I've just created with an aim for largescale expansion with other editors. The names are guides. "you should have them seperate and linked with a See also". Well you gave me three minutes.--Zleitzen 00:13, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

I know, but I did the whole moving for you in order to help the first article down the "Right path". Now you have this perfectly valid list to link to from the main Cuban art article; it can still act to encourage expansion. The Misplaced Pages is collaborative for a reason here. -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 00:15, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Pardon, I know it's not my discussion, but may I suggest that this may be or have been a good use of the {{inuse}} template? Just a thought. BigNate37_(T) 03:28, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah. I'll be a slower in reacting next time, but I did so this time only because of my dislike of the overuse of lists (and possibly because I'm an impatient nit). I like the new article now though :) -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 04:00, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Wii-mote

Reguarding your removal of(The term "Wiimote" was first coined by Aaron Apple of PST (Pacific Standard Time) Podcast and has since taken off as a pop culture reference.)

The reference was is in the second link. It was said in a podcast. This is in no way spam. I simply feel he should get credit for being the first to come up with the term. Its not easy to lay claim to things like this these days. This seemed like the best way to go about it.

But you don't have any outside reference that says that they came up with it first. That's what necessary for inclusion. It doesn't belong in the opening anyways, it's more of a "Trivia" section thing. -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 03:55, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism in reverts war

You as a future Admin that I voted for you please see the vandalism in reverts that took place yesterday at Georgian-Abkhaz conflict. See you there. Georgianis | (t) 17:00, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

What specifically? If you were talking about 140.203.12.4 (who seems to have been repeatedly adding copyrighted material), then it appears that it's stopped and nothing else can be done at this time. If it's the general neutrality issues in the article, I'm not sure that I can be of great assistance. I have extremely little experience with the conflict or the region. I'll read it over, but I don't know how well I can help. Sorry. -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 20:34, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm also keeping the article on my watchlist just incase. -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 20:35, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Would you look at that. The user seems to have been banned, and may have used this to try and get me to help their POV. Odd. -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 03:48, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

RfA

There are certain comments on your rfa by a new user. You might like to look at the bottom of WP:AN. Viridae 04:15, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Ah, I see. I'll make a comment in there. I have noticed that the user's edits, and reasoning for them, are somewhat... fishy. -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 04:18, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

I would avoid replying further on the RFA - it's apparent that this user is trolling. —Quarl 2006-08-16 06:21Z

Good plan. -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 06:30, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Also, completely astray from this topic, the preference to warn about blank summaries doesn't seem to affect talk pages, or at least usertalk pages. That, or I'm just crazy and am actually clicking Save page twice. Summaries in discussion areas is generally where I've failed to do it in the past; I tend to nail them in actual articles. -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 06:57, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

It seems to work for me...? (tested it) yeah - it works...? Viridae 15:03, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah. It was late night / early morning, I must have been clicking the button a second time in sleepy forgetfulness. -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 15:38, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Hard rock wikiproject

Out of interest, do you want to join my hard rock wikiproject? DavidJJJ 12:41, 16 August 2006 (UTC) Please reply on my talk page.

Replying (being a negativo, I know nothing about hard rock whatsoever, even though I listen to it occasionally) -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 15:38, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Scientology

The link on you user page "Sites critical of Scientology" goes the the Scientology article, which (I hope) is written from a neutral point of view. The "Sites critical of..." is an implied polemic, so it would serve you better not to use that form anyway. Why not just "Scientology-related links" to show neutrality? Tyrenius 20:55, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

It goes directly to the "Critical sites" portion of the external links of the article. Whatever, it's obviously a sticky point and has been removed. I don't intend to offend or bother anyone. -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 22:21, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Dragon Up!

That AfD made my day. I hope the two groups work on slashing this thing down together. How'd you find this? TrackerTV (CW|Castform|Green Valley) 02:25, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

I think I was just checking the New articles, checked this one out, and immediately had my nonsense alarm start ringing. ;) -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 02:30, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Premature congrats

Looks like you'll make it despite my efforts. Congratulations. I hope you take the opposers' advice to heart and, now that you're WP's official representative, stay away completely from messages insensitive to other religious groups, even if those groups are widely held in contempt, do kill babies, etc. etc. There are parts of the world where it's entirely socially appropriate to shout from the rooftops that Jews kill babies - today! Please be mindful. - CrazyRussian talk/email 00:09, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I am indeed going to use the opposers' advice as best I can, and I will remain civil towards Scientologists. There are plenty of forums and whatnot that I can use as a soapbox, no need to do so here. I appreciate that you did indeed give me some useful criticism rather than just plain voting :) -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 06:47, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations

Well Crzrussian might get the premature congratulations, but I get the official one. :) Have fun using the new tools to help the project out. Be conservative with them, especially at first, and re-read the policies before taking action. After getting the hang of it, dig in and help out with the backlogs. Again, congrats - Taxman 01:32, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Thankee kindly. I'm going to take time to reread everything before even touching the tools. -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 06:47, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations form here too. I have been watching your progress with interest. Good luck and use the tools wisely. Viridae 02:01, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Congrats :). Let me know if you have any questions about being an admin. —Quarl 2006-08-21 06:29Z

Thank you. I've no questions yet, but I'll take you up on your offer if I do. -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 06:47, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations, Consumed! I'm glad to see the various socks and so forth didn't stop you from getting the mop. Still, I'd echo CrazyRussian's comment above. We all have our faults. No reason we can't work on them. Congrats.--Kchase T 02:00, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Yup, and I will. Thanks. -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 06:47, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Note on recent inactivity

The time of my RfA is a bit of an inconvenient one for a partial wiki-break, but I have a few things going on in real life. Job interviews, readying myself for the start of school next month (first year of University and all), etc. I'll catch back up in no time though. And thank you to everyone for your congratulations, your helpful feedback in my RfA, and everything else :). -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 06:47, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

And, if anyone's watching, I did somewhat bork up the deletion summaries on that large batch of images. The category of the images superceding is on the Commons, not the Misplaced Pages. -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 03:46, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Email

Congratulations on getting the mop. FYI, I just sent you an email. JoshuaZ 17:18, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, and I did read it. Of course, by now you know that. -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 00:51, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Adminship

Congrats on becoming an admin on wikipedia. DavidJJJ 13:19, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 00:50, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

You are welcome :) Dlohcierekim 13:11, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Meow

Congrats on your adminship. btw, The Ocean called, and they're running out of shrimp. - Abscissa 04:32, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome! - Abscissa 23:24, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank you :P. Believe me, I know all too well the plight of the shrimp. -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 00:51, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Comparison of handheld gaming consoles/temp

i prodded this because I wasn't sure what it was all about (no talk page discussion on the main page or anything). Could you describe what the page is all about? Hbdragon88 00:22, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

It should be at the bottom of the main article's talk page. Right here. It's a move from Comparison of video game controllers (where most of the talk is). It's stalled somewhat only because I'm on a partial Wikibreak right now. -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 01:43, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Comparison_of_video_game_controllers

I noticed that you removed a large portion of the handheld consoles from the list, but it appears that you left in the sections for the Nintendo DS and the Sony PSP. I didn't want to remove them (still not entirely comfortable with table editing on Wiki), but thought I'd drop a line to see whether it was just an oversight. Cheers! Ex-Nintendo Employee 11:35, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I removed the seperate handheld section to move it over to the other page (which, as you've likely noticed, still hasn't progressed all that quickly). The DS and PSP are still in the controller lists right now though, because from what's been said by the companies they do have the capability of acting as actual controllers for the Wii/PS3.

However, they were previously referring to the controls built into the units, which was where some confusion came from. I changed some of the wording, including the Platform, Wireless and Concurrent controllers cells to reflect their use as Wii/PS3 controllers. -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 19:52, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Should the GBA be included then, since it has the capability to act as a GameCube controller in certain circumstances? Ex-Nintendo Employee 18:04, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I was thinking of that. It only makes sense. Add it if you want, or I'll do so later if you havn't. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 19:48, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Belated Congrats

Congrats on being granted sysop status, my apologies if my comments appeared to be harsh. I wish you the best and hope you become one of our best admins. Have a great day. Yanksox 05:07, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Nah, thanks for all of them. Criticism is always useful. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 05:08, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

WikiLove!

ReyBrujo has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Happy editing!

Spread it, as I did! -- ReyBrujo 05:28, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Hello32020 18:57, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

"I would like help uploading the trackmap application as shown at User:Jdorje/Tracks. Where do you input the commands "Download the program by running the following command:

svn co svn://svn.gna.org/svn/tropicalcyclone/trunk/tracks
svn co svn://svn.gna.org/svn/tropicalcyclone/trunk/tracks-data

Next, go to the tracks directory and compile it by running

./autogen.sh && make

" Can anyone explain? Hello32020 18:42, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

What operating system do you have? The instructions are Linux-centric, and it might work on a BSD as well. You need the packages that are listed as well. If you're using Windows, it might work with Cygwin. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 18:49, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

I have windows. I'll upload that. Hello32020 18:53, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

It doesn't completly change the user interface, does it? Can you turn it off? Hello32020 18:54, 2 September 2006 (UTC)"

Thought it would be easier if we knew when we messaged each other so I brought it here. Hello32020 18:57, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Ah. Hi hi. Cygwin doesn't completely change the interface, it just runs in a window. Actually, I usually run it as a command line thing, not as a windowing system like the screenshot shows. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 18:59, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Now, when you set it up, I'm fairly certain you have the ability to choose which packages it downloads. You'll want to ensure that you grab all of the ones that the trackmap page recommends, including cairo and svn and etc. It's fairly important, as trackmap won't really run otherwise ;) -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 19:01, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Nevermind I figured out it doesn't work. Hello32020 19:04, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Alrighty then :S -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 19:06, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Help Desk

Thanks a lot for answering my question! Your answer was really helpful. --Alexignatiou 06:15, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Comments appreciated

Thank you for the fond farewell on 28 August. I have addressed it at my user talk page and furtherly disclosed information there. Thank you, again. — CRAZY`(lN)`SANE 03:57, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

my monobook

Thanks (: Molecular Hamiltonian 21:03, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Too Cool / Animax

DicussED --Too Cool 07:15, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for all your efforts

I’d like to give you a belated thank you for all your efforts on every article – your edits have certainly helped maintain and improve the quality of many of the articles here. I profusely apologize for my edit on the other article, since I attempted to revert another user’s edits but due to my slow reactions and connection (^_^) , our edits seem to have coincided. Please accept my sincere apologies for any misunderstandings my careless efforts may have caused. Ganryuu (talk) 07:58, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Nah, to be honest I don't know if my own last edit wasn't careless. As I said, I should be sleeping. I should have been sleeping an hour or two ago. Right, off I go then. Thanks for the kind words. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 08:06, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Why?

Why did you re-set my talk page? I don't appreciate that. I saw the warning, and it is my talk page. Please answer this question. Fastnaturedude 13:08, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Blanking warnings prevents (well, somewhat) administrators from reacting when you violate said warning. Since you've acknowledged that you've read it though, whatever. Leave them off. I think I missed some change of some unofficial policy of some sort, I don't know, so ignore me for now. Right. It's still somewhat uncivil to erase templates without any response. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 16:51, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Tonycdp

From Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration/Kosovo/Proposed_decision#Topical_Probation_for_parties: For the duration of this case, any of the named parties may be banned by an uninvolved administrator from Kosovo or related pages for disruptive edits. This has been approved by the Arbitration Committee on 14 September 2006.

Tonycdp has disrupted the Misplaced Pages as per Misplaced Pages:Don't disrupt Misplaced Pages to illustrate a point as you yourself noted at User_talk:Tonycdp#WP:POINT. Because of creating the two articles and showing rather incivil points at the bottom of Talk:Kosovo, it is only fitting that User:Tonycdp is banned by a third-party administrator as per the will of the ArbCom. --HolyRomanEmperor 12:43, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

I've banned him from Kosovo and related articles and he has been warned; he won't be outright blocked unless he violates this new ban. If he does, please report him to myself or another administrator (I think Misplaced Pages:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents‎ is the proper place). -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 16:19, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Please see Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Tonycdp. He has been editing on Kosovo-related articles, even with your ban. --PaxEquilibrium 19:18, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Aye. He is currently on a 24 hour 3RR block. The standard block in the arbcom page seems to be around 24 hours for the first violation, 1 week for the next. I'm going to warn him in his talk page, and lengthen his current block to a 48-hour'er. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 19:22, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Note: You said that he continued with disruptive editing at his talk page - which he didn't; he simply violated the ban (with one instance of a mere content dispute). Just a reminder so that you don't get into trouble later. Cheers, mate! --PaxEquilibrium 10:04, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

I don't know, his edits to those pages still look to be somewhat politically motivated, like his previous ones. Even if he's not outright creating dumb point-proving articles as before, he may still be mildly distruptive. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 15:29, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

User:216.20.29.12

Would you have any objection to my giving User:216.20.29.12 a long block (yours is about to expire). It appears to be a vandalism-only static IP. He came off of my week-long block, vandalized immediately, and you blocked him for only 48 hours. - Jmabel | Talk 01:46, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Hrm. Yeah, sure, go for it. I've been trying to be more lenient of IPs, but I was probably a little too conservative here. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 01:52, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Hey CC!

Thanks for fixing this. I'm not sure why it was added to my talk archives. Anyway, thanks! :) Firsfron of Ronchester 20:18, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Heh, no problem. Someone mentioned him on the Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard, so I glanced through his contribs and noticed that. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 15:45, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Template vs Article deletion

I'm sorry, I didn't know. Thanks for msging me. Xiner 20:26, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Mrpainkiller7

Me & Toshi (Mrpainkiller7) are good friends, he doesn't mind if i edit his page, which i do nicely Xachna 02:34, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

I wasn't referring that that. In my edit summary, it was the TfD that I mentioned specifically. Diff: -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 02:38, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Your block

You've blocked me for no reason, the change I've made amounted to no more than restoring a broken paragraph (as a result of previous vandalism). Someone removed the albanian name from the article (on a province 90% inhabited by albanians) and I just added it back. No disruptive editing was involved. Tonycdp 09:23, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Great. You still edited Kosovo and related articles though, which violates your current ban. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 15:47, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Albania is not related to Kosovo. And I did only edit Kosovo once to fix the broken paragraph, and it didn't amount to vandalism nor a contribution. Tonycdp 16:17, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Albania is politically related to Kosovo, and Priština is definately related, being Kosovo's capital. You were blocked for 3RR to Shkodër, the Albanian city, which is clearly distruptive. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 17:49, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

I was protecting Shkodër from POV. And as you can see from the talk pages I suggested that the person put the tag until someone comes along and substantiates it. S/he could've been blocked for breaking the 3RR just as easily, but as it often happens they don't.

Albania may be related to Kosovo in a wider context (but so are other countries in the region), but the content I was protecting had nothing to do with Kosovo, it was purely an Albanian issue. The arbitration never specifically mentioned that Albania related articles were put under watch.

You have mis-interpreted the temporary injunction.

You banned me from editing Kosovo articles because I was "abusing" Misplaced Pages to prove a point. I admit my mistake, yes I did try and make a point because the Article on Northern Kosovo was absolutely ridiculous. But I never intended to break any rules nor undermine Misplaced Pages.

If you read a bit more on why the Northern Kosovo article was created in the first place, you will find that it was created to MAKE A POINT. The user claimed that: if Kosovo is to be recognised as an entity then Northern Kosovo should be recognised too. You should have banned that user too because he was abusing the Misplaced Pages to make a point.

But you never really bothered to look into it, and perhaps next time you should, rather than judge situations so quickly and wield your magic stick at editors.

P.S. I never disrupted Pristina after the ban Tonycdp 19:11, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

You were still revert warring on Shkodër. It was a content dispute, and was not as clear-cut as you're making it out to be. There was no outright vandalism occuring, which is the only normal exception for the 3RR. As for the other user, if they weren't blocked you probably should have reported them as well. There is a page for that, or you could have put a request on your user talk after you were blocked.

You were also uncivil on the Kosovo talk page before the article creation, which was part of the reason for the ban itself (which I mentioned somewhere, don't know where exactly). I'll call the ban off if you can agree to chill, but if you do continue being distruptive again the next administrator will likely not think twice about giving the full 1 week block.

In other things, I'm really not sure of North Kosovo myself. At the very least I'm going to tag it with a source request. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 21:25, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

North Kosovo is out of juristiction of the Pristina government ever since the occupation/protectorate of 1999. It maintains its own Government, President, Assembly; governmental institutions and recognizes the legitimacy of Serbia. --PaxEquilibrium 22:10, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Ed Poor 2

This case is now closed and the results have been published at the link above.

Ed Poor is placed on Probation. He may be banned from any article or set of articles by an uninvolved administrator for disruptive editing, such as edit warring, original research, and POV forking. All bans are to be logged at Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Ed Poor 2#Log of blocks and bans.

For the Arbitration Committee. Arbitration Committee Clerk, FloNight 13:51, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

What i Meant Was

What i Mean't Was to not Talk Nonsense about Nintendo Please can we Dicuss it on my Talk Page (I love entei 22:20, 13 October 2006 (UTC))

Err, okay. You had only to respond there, I would've seen it. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 22:39, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank You BTW: Do You want to Talk on My Talk Page sometime? (I love entei 22:54, 13 October 2006 (UTC))

Thank You for Talking with me (I love entei 23:03, 13 October 2006 (UTC))

Thank You

Thank you for talking with me i like it when i get new messages can we talk some more on my or your talk page? (I love entei 23:16, 13 October 2006 (UTC))

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Mahawiki

Hello Sir, I dont know about which issue ur talking about.Can u plz specify the same and I will give justification for my allegations.Thanks. Mahawiki 06:05, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Don't make me wade through that again :/. , , , , et cetera. I can also scarcely comprehend the point of . -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 06:13, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Well I have posted my response below.I didnt see admin's noticeboard before I posted above message.If u are asking explaination of what's wrong in it?I am telling him that since i am myself a Maharashtrian why would I vandalise Solapur article.And about I have retained the discussions removed by KNM.I hope u will go thru my response (below)as well!

Mahawiki 08:17, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

My response over sarvagnya's allegations

Dear Sir,I read ur message on Admin-notice board.here are the proofs of Sarvagnya's misbehaviour. --- Hello, First things first.When i joined wikipedia I was not aware of wiki policies and hence I was 'bold' and 'emotiona' when dealing with my edits.It is only after Aksi_great and Sunder adviced to me as being 'citation-savvy'.I agree that I was rude and incivil at times but frankly of admins would take care of NPOV and interfere into the feuds early i would not need to resort to incivil behaviour.I am pleading admins to watch belgaum_border_dispute but in vain.My biggest concern is kannada POV pushing there..If any admin promises to take care of this anti-Maharashtra stand I think I will not bother anyone.In fact if anyone wants I would delete my a/c here.I am concerned about misinterpretation of Maharashtra's stand on Belgaon issue which is very emotional issue for all Maharashtrians. I have also stopped taking all this things personally and would request sarvagnya the same.They are busy on Kill-Mahawiki mission.

Here are the proofs if inciviliy of sarvagnya-

• .This is what bothers me most!
• BOLD and LOUD comments of enraged Sarvagnya after Aksi_great,Nichalp and many others conclude the disputed 'board' is in Marathi language.I request u to go through this page ENTIRELY to know the premise of our differences.Despite of my dozens of citations this user is busy denying the fact that Hindi language doesnt use 'ळ'
• User:amerique gives decision in my favour after which sarvagnya does a disappering act
• his rants against me posted to dozens of admins.he is continuously badmouthing me to take revenge on his inability of pushing POV on belgaum page
• sarvagnya calls me 'wolf' 'bluff' and pleads baka to 'support' him against me
• Blnguyen adviced against so-called rectification of sarvagnya at Marathi_people article which were in Bad faith
• Calling my edits as 'shameless POV'

He dropped into Marathi_people article from nowhere and started his edits in bad-faith when admin Blnguyen were already trying to sort out the POV.

• Sarvagnya's provocation calling Shivaji as Sevooji in edit summary
• He called Shivaji Maharaj as 'chatripati' and said it sounds coool!

• Dinesh's rants against maharashtra and Marathi.A must read commentry where he is busy proving all 'kannada things' are great and best than all 'marathi things'
• Sarvagnya's request to 'drop a line' against me
• he had warned me against removing warnings but he himself is indulged in removing them and even non-obscene messages.

He also removed arya's warning about misuse of popups after which admin blocked him

• admin utcursh partly agreed that Kamath is a controversial writer
• A must read summary about how Dinesh's busy fabricating history and he's being opposed by Telugu and Marathi editors alike.
• He calls tamilnation.com as stupid and rubbish
• he calls Nilakanth shastry as Tamil centril and tamil glorifying
• This is a classic case of dinesh's 'kannadisation' See the last para where he writes- Yadavas of Devagiri who actually had many cowardly agreements with the invaders were the first to fall and later goes on with editing Seuna_Yadavas_of_Devagiri and associates the 'cowardly' Yadavas with Kannada language.
• Sarvagnya's not just anti-Marathi;he seems to be anti-Hindi also!He has been engaged in mindless speculation about Hindi's status on the pages of jana_gana_mana, vande_mataram and recent sare_jahan_se_achcha.His tone is rather rude and insulting.See this and this(...Whether hindi is the opeesial language of India or Timbuktu or Somalia is irrelevant ...Hindi has no business squatting on this article...)

Thanks! Mahawiki 07:42, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

• I have answered HERE Sarvagnya 18:37, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Sweatdrop Studios AfD

"Meat puppetry". Calling folks from a forum to defend an article is somewhat... annoying. Woot there is the understatement of the year. Whispering 18:21, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Tecmobowl (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Tecmobowl is acting like one of the vandals in the Spotteddogsdotorg/Scott Brown sockpuppet ring switching from television to baseball and staying away from his main targets of abuse. The patterns are obvious, even down to the Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents posting and playing innocent. I first suspected him a few weeks ago. TV Newser Tipline 08:48, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Do you have any particular proof of the pattern, besides "playing innocent"? As I recall, the AIV discussion got no where. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 08:52, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

• TV Newser is part of the CFIF/Splash cabal that sees socks everywhere. They think I am a sock and will claim that me defending Tecmobowl is more evidence that I am a sock and he is a sock. I am not a sock, he is not a sock and he as only made good edits and really understands the concept of wiki. TV Newser, CFIF, and Splash should all be banned forever! Belly Flop Patrol 09:49, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Swiftfox

Gentoo - true, any distribution will do, I was just going out of my way to provide alternatives. "just compiling yourself" is better. You don't fancy adding that in, as I do want to keep alternatives. There is also an RfC that you might be interested in - see Talk:Swiftfox. Widefox 02:02, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Report

Hello I Would like to Report List of arsonists it May Have Vandilism Because Someone put an Article Called Lyfe Jennings in it Please Check it Out (I love entei 02:00, 23 October 2006 (UTC))

Sorry for the delayed response. It wasn't vandalism by the looks of it; that person's article does say that they had arson charges against them. The list is on the AfD anyways ( Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/List of arsonists ), and since it looks like it's going to be deleted, none of this matters. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 02:25, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Ah, sorry, but one slight more favor?

Forgot some of the code was in User:WCityMike/monobook.css, too. Might you do a quick restore there as well? My thanks in advance. — Mike 20:37, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Righto. Got it. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 20:38, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks again. — Mike 20:40, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Nixer

Howdy, I have been following events at Armenia for quite a while now, since I had to block Calgvla (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log), now known as Caligvla (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log), for 3RR a couple weeks ago. The debates there are very testy and very hotly argued. Editors who are in the majority opinion have largely controlled the Talk page, including liberally removing comments they perceive as trolling. There was a consensus to archive the RFC when it closed, but I don't think that extended to the entire Talk page. Parts of discussion being archived were very recent - Nixer was trying to reply to something only a day old. I think he has the right to debate his position, no matter how unpopular, and clearly archiving that particular discussion was going to remove it from the public eye. I guess what I'm saying is that I think he had legitimate reasons for breaking 3RR in this case, and the other users should not have continued to archive the entire Talk page if parts of it were active. I'm not going to take action since you are the admin who reviewed the block, but I encourage you to reconsider. --Aguerriero (talk) 22:22, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

I still think he was being intentionally disruptive. Another admin might see it differently, but there was no reason for Nixer to repeatedly (past 3RR and warnings) revert the entire talk page. If he was just doing that one section, I might think differently of it. And again, there is a reason that the 3RR exists: to stop silly revert wars like this; it doesn't necessarily matter what side of the war is right. There were other avenues he could pursue, and you would think he would after the multitude of 3RR blocks he has recieved. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 22:39, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

"Hose" nonsense account

I have a feeling that this is a previously blocked troll who loves twisting policy. He's doing a weird mix of good edits and pure nonsense. Some wikibreak I'm taking.  :) - Lucky 6.9 07:01, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Aye, thanks. The user just sock puppeted and continued the nonsense, so I'm figuring an indef isn't a bad idea. He/she is probably using a proxy though, which will be annoying. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 07:08, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

I saw that. Good job on clobbering that nimrod.  :)) - Lucky 6.9 07:11, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Personal attack by mahawiki

Hi, User:Mahawiki and User:Arya Rajya Maharashtra are making personal attacks on me here without any reason. Mahawiki calls me sockpuppet and says whatever I edit are meaningless. I warned him of reporting to an admin. Then Arya comes and calls me sockpuppet. They have filed a sockpuppetry case against me and some other editors very long back which had no outcome so far. I have complained to User:Utcursch too, and this is to let you know. Thanks.Gnanapiti 05:44, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Your message to Mahawiki

Thanks for ur message. But i hope u will be neutral as well and take note of this.It was Sarvagnya who started trashing comments and warnings but when I do the same i am being warned! Morever their's a confusion over removal of warnings,few admins term as incivility and few like u dont think so. Plz advice on the same.

I am sorry if i sound like POV pusher. To explain what I meant to say is =I edited belgaum_border_dispute and added about Mahamelava and yuvamelava which was attended by about 40,000-50,000 members. In response to that Gnanipati added a minor incident of flag hoisting which IMO is not significant unlike karnataka assembly session or karnataka bundh. Thats why i pleaded a neutral intervention so that s/he can judge about it.Thanks. Mahawiki 10:17, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Incivility by Mahawiki

Just few minutes back you had advised User:Mahawiki regarding the usage of terms such as "Kannada-POV pushers"; but he reiterates the same thing again. Please refer to his edit which was made after your warning, and he continues to call names as "Kannada POV pushing", "sock-puppets" etc. This is extremely uncivil and against good faith on other editors. These kind of personal attacks and incivil edits are always disruptive in a community effort like building an encyclopedia. Thank you. - KNM 10:41, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

You are being partial

With due respect to u,I think u r knowingly or unknowingly being partial when delaing with Marathi-kannada fight here.U had warned me twice asked for explaination when sarvagnya complained about me,but when i gave explaination u didnt do anything.U seem to act instantly when kannada users complain.Please be neutral and address our concerns. It is almost evident that a user has created many sockpuppets to push his pov everywthere esp. Belgaum_border_dispute.Mahawiki 06:21, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

I only spend so much time on the Misplaced Pages, and can't view everything at once. I've seen you being uncivil, and others have pointed to extra examples of incivility. If you want to point to specific examples of what the other people are doing, it would help. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 15:41, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Barraux

I have an e-mail from L'atlier des dauphins to show that Barraux is in line with the GDFL. Is this enough??? Should I do something else to stop this happening again??? Chris5897 (T@£k) 14:07, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Okay, shouldn't be too hard. Be certain that the copyright owner knows that they're releasing the information under the GFDL, and not just "to use on Misplaced Pages". If you are, use the address/instructions here to email the OTRS permission folks (it's the same for images and text, it just references images specifically for some reason). Make a note that you've done this on the talk page. I'll also send a confirmation e-mail to the L'atlier people, and if they say it's all right I'll take the copyvio tag off, as the OTRS folks may not respond for up to a month. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 16:44, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Anyways, now that I'm back: the way to avoid the trouble should be easy:

• Get permission
• Establish article
• Note in the talk page where the information is from, and paste a copy of the permission email (without email address, name, or other personally identifying parts)
• Fire off an email to the permissions address
• Ask another established user to send a request for confirmation

-- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 21:50, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

images on Barraux

Since some of these are 2-dimensional images from the 16th & 17th centuries, how would they be G12 copyright violations? -- nae'blis 23:55, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Sweat of the brow? Some of them probably shouldn't have that tag. But,they shouldn't have speedy tags on them anyways. See the above section. I'll fix that. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 00:41, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism?

One man's vandalism is another's radicalism.

See Misplaced Pages: The Motivation of a Vandal.

And please refrain from littering my talk page with templates. If you can't be bothered to formulate your own sentences, just go ahead and delete questionable articles unilaterally. -- Chris 17:41, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

WP:POINT now? Want to give me any more reasons to block you? -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 17:43, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

I looked at the WP:POINT.

If articles made no points, then Misplaced Pages would be pointless. Is that what you want, a pointless Misplaced Pages?

-- Chris 17:44, 2 November 2006 (UTC)