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	== Fursov translation ==

	Since there continues to be quarreling over the Fursov translation, I'll provide a link to the discussion at RefDesk. People should resist the temptation to "spin" what was said there: https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Archives/Language/2014_January_10#Russian_translation ] (]) 04:56, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

	:Note that Reference Desk editor Lüboslóv Yęzýkin said "I'm not sure that literal translation will do better." ] (]) 18:23, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

	::Let us accept that it is RS as you insisted before. The correct translation is 180 degrees away from your initial translation. If it was RS before, it is still RS with the actual correct translation. Cheers. ] (]) 18:37, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

	:::It was you who introduced the 180 degree mixup of "not the quality but the quantity" versus "not the quantity, but the quality." Also, I have never questioned whether Fursov is a reliable source. You were confused then and you are still confused now. ] (]) 18:57, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
	::::No -- the claim about LaRouche specifically being "''insignificant''" per edits , , etc. and etc. Cheers. ] (]) 19:04, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

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"La Rouche in federal prison" -- missing topic from Contents

https://en.wikipedia.org/LaRouche_criminal_trials#Later_developments la rouche's 5 yrs in fed prison

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Worthy addition: presidential TV ads, also clarification of cases brought against him

Ok, an asside first. Somewhere there’s mention in f the tri-part test actually 4parts6for libel of a public figure being reffered to as the LaRouche Tesr, not true - it is the SCOTUS decision in Sullivan v NY Times: In a case regarding a public figure, 1) truth beats all 2) the figure must be identifiable (usually 1is assumed - you can say or print just about anything about anyone if it true) 2) Southern Sheriffs Sullivan claimed an NAACP ad in the NYT was about him(can’t find ny casebook, please check old guy ‘s memory - ad, about injustice against blacks, civ rights workers etc.) didn’t even single out a state 3) absence of legal malice: a) plaintiff must prove respondent had no data or respondent can demonstrate it had information it reasonabley believed true and b) respondent made an effort to test accuracy of data. I doubr any country rt decision would ever be given LL’s nane! And please cite case - not te there was also bad precedent set during NJ v Mario Jascalavich trial - the curari killer who got awaw when NYT reporter Myron Farber refused to reveal sources on story about the investigation of “Dr. X” - there was some law established, later demolished by “shield laws” in almost all 50 states making it near impossible for newspapers to be forced to reveal names of anonymous sources. Of course by that time Farber had been imprisoned for contempt of court by a damned fool Bergen Co. NJ judge, and rhe sideshow, which really didn’t effect state’s case against Dr Death had led to Jascalavich cleared and moving to Argentina, where he died, must be 35 years ago now.

Also NB: or should that be N Morte: I find it hard to believe LL is still alive in his late 90s+ this may be simple lar to the rather suspicious death date given by Scientology Inc.’s house doctor for former SF writer turned creator of a religion “because thats where the money is” say many who heard him discussing plan to turn novel into Dianetics, the wealthy , er, religion’s Bible, a rewrite as truth of Slaves of Sleep, the late Harlan Ellison has writ on many occasions, including a note in Dangerous Visiobs, SF anthology

AND NOW THE POINT OF THIS RAMBLE: LL made campaign commercials each time he ran for president, all consisting of the candidate seated in a leather English Men’s Club chair, in front of a rather impressive looking home library rambling for 15-30 minutes, leading the viewer to come away with the feeling he was claiming Queen Elizabeth II and family were Iewish, and conspiring with other Jews to flood US streets wit heroin. Also, falsely, that he had recently met with, and advised(implying their support) of dozens of world leaders. This material, probably in the overptotected vaults of the Museum of Radio and Television, would be wonderful to show the quadrennial shift in the man’s views, and why he attracted so many for llowers, including a schizophrenic cousin of mine. Also, editor/authors seem to have missed out nature of the case that led to prison: LL’s minions working airports and other sites would talk people into making small cr d card donations to, usually the Fusion Foundation, then, especially if donors were elderly, invent and submit fraudulent cred card slips for donations several orders of magnitude larger, again, if memory serves.

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