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A barnstar for you!

The Teamwork Barnstar
Thank you for keeping Bitcoin in shape. you are an awesome wikipedian ! Wuerzele (talk) 20:13, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Barnstar of Diligence
Ladislav, thanks much for improving and maintaining legality of bitcoin working with Fleetham, so it has become useful and reliable ! Wuerzele (talk) 15 October 2015 (UTC)

A beer for you!

Thanks for fixing my style errors in History of Bitcoin I'll try to remember to use lowercase in the future :) Mbevand (talk) 19:23, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
No, problem, Mbevand, you are welcome. This is a matter of convention, and it looks that the competent sources (and WP editors) started to prefer uniform lowercase as described at Bitcoin#Etymology and orthography. Ladislav Mecir (talk) 20:03, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

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I looked at Ladislav's contribs today as I was wondering why it has been a while since he has commented on what has been going on at the various crypto articles that we frequently edit. I noticed this talk page thread was the only recent edits he has made. I enjoyed reading the biographical links about Ladislav and learning about him, and at the same time find the accusations that Smallbones (talk · contribs) to have made to be unfounded. This to me looks like WP:HARASS and I believe the line was crossed when in a span of less than 30 days Smallbones asserted without any evidence that Ladislav has some COI that must announce (with no evidence than other than Ladislav's frequent edits to a narrow range of articles). There was no mention whatsoever in any of the press clippings or nor the interesting 7 minute audio interview of any WP:COI and that leaves me wondering what is the basis for these accusations (in fact all the sources state that Ladislav doesn't own any crypto, which would be the most common COI in this topic area). I thought I would ping a few more eyes to this @MER-C: & @TonyBallioni:. I don't have any evidence that these accusations are the reason Ladislav stopped editing, but this is just the sort of thing that drives editors away. Note that in the section just above this Smallbones also opended a WP:COI noticeboard about Ladislav (and me as well for good measure). A bit over the top in my opinion. Thanks! Jtbobwaysf (talk) 18:11, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

Barnstar

The Original Barnstar
For being a fair and rational editor. Thanks! Jtbobwaysf (talk) 18:23, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

Hi, Jtbobwaysf, and thank you. Ladislav Mecir (talk) 12:19, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

The entry on Blockchain should cite relevant prior art, including Chaum 79, Chaum 82, and Merkle.

It was wrong for Mercir to cut the four relevant refs I had added and then to assert that the edits were largely unsourced. These refs document the validity of the edits. The question is who first proposed the ideas underlying blockchain. The current text asserts (incorrectly) that Nakamoto was first, and the text provides no justification for this assertion. Similarly for the concept of proof of work. At a minimum, point out the claims with the documenting refs, and let the reader decide. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alantsherman (talkcontribs) 16:52, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi. There are several problems with your above claim:
  • You edited the Blockchain article, not the Bitcoin article as your above text confusingly suggests.
Yes, I know, but the wording of your title (see above) is confusing.
  • In the Blockchain article, there is information that it was Satoshi Nakamoto who invented the blockchain. The information is confirmed by the independent sources cited in the article, and your edit deleted it. Your edit deleted more informations than that.
The "two statements of a misfact" are based on sources cited in the article. I can understand that you see it differently, but you do not have any reliable source supporting your opinion yet.

  • There is no doubt that there were prior inventions, and such an information is mentioned in the article and confirmed by the cited sources. None of those inventions qualified as a blockchain, however, missing several attributes of blockchain. Per the sources cited in the article, the previous inventions were just ideas, on which the Nakamoto's invention of blockchain was based.
You are right that the prior work could have been discussed more thoroughly. I added some sourced information related to the difference between the blockchain and the previous attempts to create a system maintaining document certificates. It also mentions the Hashcash as one of the ideas incorporated. As to your claim mentioning Chaum, it is not obvious whether Nakamoto knew some of Chaum's works or not. On the other hand, Chaum concentrated on design of a digital currency, and it is questionable whether there was any invention that could be characterized as blockchain-related. Note also that the History of bitcoin article does mention Chaum's work.
  • If you want to put into the article an evaluation of work by Chaum, Merkle or others, you have to cite relevant sources, not just cite Chaum's, Merkle's, or somebody else's work and make an evaluation of your own claiming that they invented the blockchain. See WP:SECONDARY for "Articles may make an analytic, evaluative, interpretive, or synthetic claim only if that has been published by a reliable secondary source." Ladislav Mecir (talk) 05:44, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
Then we may have another source to consult, but until then, it is premature to edit the article using evaluations that are unpublished yet. Ladislav Mecir (talk) 10:12, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

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