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::No problem, I know you're busy putting out fires. Tomorrow I'll follow up on the info from '''Boeppens''' and verify. If it's promotional linking as "B" suggests, I'll put on my combat boots and go linkstomping :) --] <sup>]</sup> 08:13, 15 November 2006 (UTC) | ::No problem, I know you're busy putting out fires. Tomorrow I'll follow up on the info from '''Boeppens''' and verify. If it's promotional linking as "B" suggests, I'll put on my combat boots and go linkstomping :) --] <sup>]</sup> 08:13, 15 November 2006 (UTC) | ||
:::"What we have here is a target-rich environment". Boeppens was right about the linkspam. In fact, ] had five External Links which appeared to be different pages, but every single one of them led to "Antbear Guest House". I eliminated every such link that I could find, and I'll keep those pages watchlisted. Since I lack the academic background to make serious contributions to most articles, it pleases me that I can contribute in other ways, like this. Just let me know if ever you need something stomped on; my combat boots are at your service :) --] <sup>]</sup> 19:14, 15 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
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Help! My User name changed!
Hi, I've noticed you as an active and tireless admin and was wondering if you could help me...
My user name is (was) NinaEliza. My user name has been CHANGED mysteriously to NinzEliza. What is weirder is that all responses to me who have addressed me by name have had the name changed from NinaEliza to NinzEliza. I'm CERTAIN my name was NinaEliza! I feel like I've gone through the looking glass! Can you help me? Thanks in advance! NinzEliza 02:56, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks for catching the vandalism to my userpage. That's the problem with mass-warning users with VandalProof, they get ticked off and start messing with your user and user talk pages. Thanks again, ^demon 06:15, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages Access
Hi Luna
I am a little confused because I haven't used this system before but when I made an attempt to edit or contribute to a subject, I was told I was banned and I can't recall ever having used this before. What's worse, I've been told I'm a vandal. Can you help me understand this. I have looked up the reasons however, can find nothing that relates to me here.
Regards,
Roy
Brahma Kumaris World Spiritual University
Hi.
can you unprotect the Brahma Kumaris World Spiritual University? There was a vandal from the Galgary University making offensive statements but my guess is he/they are long gone now.
Thanks. 195.82.106.244 07:52, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
- Appreciated both ways. 195.82.106.244 08:32, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Dear Luna Santin, I would like to request for user 195.82.106.244 to obtain a user name. This suggestion was previously asked by admin RHolton to user .244. It was not observed. I feel that user .244 is the main contributor on this page and thus, it would be a good idea to keep this in mind. It was a real "hassle" for me to get to discuss with different IPs coming from the same network (Univ. of Calgary.) Thsi will make things easier to deal with. Also, I would like to give some info to you about this page.
As the talk page shows in the archives, users "195.82.106.244", "talkabout" and supporters would like to use materials which belong to Brahma Kumaris which by definition are not considered "reliable sources." Besides, even if these materials were used by user .244 and group of supporters, these materials were being used in a highly biased way, in a detrimental way towards the organization which they pretend to use to "inform" the public thus, it could never be considered "self-serving" but rather contentious.
There is a point that I would like to stress. Articles which belong to an encyclopedia must be non-biased. User 195.82.106.244 and supporters being the originators of this article do not fit this category. They were "ex-Brahma Kumaris" and by definition, biased. As a matter of fact, user.244 has a public website located at: www.brahmakumaris.info which notably portrays an antagonistic vision towards Brahma Kumaris. I thought, I should mention this to you Jossi and Sethie as a background for your help in keeping this article as non-biased as possible. That is the reason why academia has been highly quoted in the majority of this article. It is non-biased research. Thank you and look forward to hearing from you. Best Wishes, avyakt7 16:11, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
List of characters from Family Guy
Hi there ... I think you stepped on my edits and did a revert while I had two edit windows open to do a copy&paste from one section to another ... part of the article was deleted, and it's followed by an edit with no comment, so I suspect that I closed one by mistake.
Anywho, please check my edits that were not apparent vandalism, and let me know if you agree with my changes to the "Real and fictional guest characters" section ... my current "quest" is to get some of the cruft out, and if a character is cited in more than two scenes, then I think that they should be bulleted items. That's why I did the Adolph Hitler reference that way. Note that I tightened up and added links to the Adam and Eve paragraph, which had been under "Supernatural characters".
Somebody added Gregory Peck to "Other characters" ... please see my comment at Talk:List of characters from Family Guy#Real and fictional guest characters page about adding them to the the correct section with a link to the episode ... I don't remember this cutaway (or what episode it was from), but I wikified it and moved it instead of just deleting it, per WP:BITE.
Like I said, "My bad!" ... it was an accident, not vandalism ... second time it's happenened to me this week, BTW ... I must set a limit on how many changes I try to make in one session. —141.156.240.102 (talk|contribs) 09:38, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
- Ahh, gotcha. No problem, that sort of thing happens. For my part, I just saw a big removal of text without a summary, so reverted and moved on to the next edit to check (sounds exciting, I know). Looks like your edits are good, so keep it up. :) Luna Santin 09:40, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
- Kewl! Here's my plan to combat cruft ... if the entries are ventilated, (a) it points out the ones that lack a citation, and (b) it encourages editors to find and add the episode link.
- Please see List of characters from Family Guy#Real and fictional guest characters as an example. The Abraham Lincoln section now has a link to at least one of the episodes, and it's a lot more concise. (I also used it to anchor links for "cutaway" and "flashback".) You can see that the last two entries under Adolph Hitler have good references ... In "Episode Xyz", this character ... I'll try to "cleanup" the other four entries when I'm in a fresher state of mind.
- I also need to move a lot of the cruft from Adam West to the Family Guy page for him ... any character with their own page should be pruned down as much as possible, with absolutely no cruft. —141.156.240.102 (talk|contribs) 10:11, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
A request
Hey, would you mind protecting a page for me? I can't because I'm somewhat involved in the dispute. Thanks! Khoikhoi 09:57, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
- Ah, Steel already took care of it. Thanks anyways, Khoikhoi 05:09, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Userpage
Hi there; thank you for reverting my userpage. I do a lot of NP patrolling, and make a lot of enemies. I am therefore all the more grateful to my friends.--Anthony.bradbury 21:46, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
User talk:76.168.210.190
Duh! I forgot about 3rr. Thanks for that. --Guinnog 22:33, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Personal attack intervention
I just have no idea what a personal attack if it isn't calling someone a racist. I kept it short, I got asked for more, I post more, and get asked to post more, saying it will support my case, then when I comply I get told it's too much.
This is pure and simple adminstrator bias towards Tajik.
No matter how foul he bahaves, no matter what he says about Turks, about Pashtuns, no matter how many people he calls a racist, me, Turks, anyone who isn't an Iranian, it's not a personal attack when Tajik issues it--but administrators block people who act towards Tajik, just like Tajik behaves towards everyone.
I backed down. I tried discussing the matter in a civilized matter. I asked for help from the mediation cabal. I posted a warning on Tajik's talk page (which he deleted and posted on mine). I tried following the rules, and all I get is Tajik being given carte blanche to continue personally attacking any one and every one on Misplaced Pages who doesn't consider Afghanistan a state of Iran.
Administrators are willing to block other editors when Tajik asks for doing to Tajik exactly what he does to me and others, but no one is willing to block Tajik for calling people a racist, saying that that is allowed on Misplaced Pages.
KP Botany 22:50, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
- So, this is fine in Misplaced Pages:
- "Or any other Turkish nationalists in here who have been depanted so many times, not only by me, but also by others?!"
- "you are STILL fully supporting his racist and POVish opinion"
- "stop supporting racism."
- "sympathy for the Taliban."
- "rv ... provide credible sources instead of messing up the article with hot air from your belly"
- Not a single proof of my racism, simply character slander without any supporting evidence. This is a personal attack. He's calling me a racist, not my remarks, because he can't quote a single racist remark I've made, because I haven't.
- I bet if I called him a racist, he could get an administrator to block me in a second.
- I'll be sure to use exactly his tone and language and words on all my future edits of the pages he thinks he owns, instead of bothering with dispute resolution, since it's not required of Tajik, and he mocks me for using it.
- And I got the message that warning templates can't be use on administrator's pets, either, because they can just delete them, along with being encouraged to ignore WP:dispute resolution guidelines and mock editors who waste time using them.
- I included them, just like you show, after spending an hour reading the wikismog about them.
- I get it now, though. Tajik can do whatever he wants, and I have to follow dispute resolution processse to give him something to mock me for, so adminstrators can then tell me, "do this," and scold me for doing what they told me to do, ask me questions, then put me on the spot for answering their questions, for providing details they asked for.
- It's no wonder the Afghan articles read as if the nation of Afghanistan is merely a state of Iran, anyone who tries to correct the misinformation will be told to play by the Misplaced Pages rules which don't apply to Tajik.
- I'll be sure to throw the term 'racist' around as often as Tajik so I, too, can win friends and influence people instead of trying to be civilized and talk to them about the articles themselves.
- I'll also, just like Tajik, just remove any warning templates anyone puts on my pages. Although, I've learned my lesson thoroughly about following Misplaced Pages dispute resolution processes. I may be dense enough to think that in general when people act in a highly uncivilized way they are up to no good, but I'm not stupid enough to fail to see how advantageous this is on Misplaced Pages to the person throwing "racist" and other words around.
- Name calling it is, far be it for me to waste my time on a higher and more civil standard, even when it's actually the normal, easiest, and most trouble-free way that people normally do things.
- Please cut it out. This is no longer funny, and I would think an administrator would have something better to do. KP Botany 23:36, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Luna Santin, anybody please...!
Could you please get in touch with me--I have some important issues and I am new to this sort of communication. Are there real people with real names or is everyone hiding behind some sort of galactic Star Trek sounding nickname? I have posted a real story on the Marilyn Monroe fraud. I have worked on this for thousands of hours over the course of an entire year. The fraud has successfully been stoppedna dn now is part of Marilyn Monroe--histry. Do you understand that? The lawsuit is going to happen on May 7, 2007. People need to know about this and they also need to find out what I learned about June DiMaggio. Please help me with posting this--anybody --please help me with this.
I do not know how to do this the correct way. So laugh at me and make fun. But please-- post it here where innocent kids who like to read on and about MM--also will read the warnings about the fraud and the other side of the estate of MM.
My article was supported by newspaper articles from the LA Times etc. I am not making anything up here. I would be ahppy to speak to anybody about this.
I could also submit some images that I took of the scam.
mailg4@gmail.com Blessings! 76.168.210.190 23:08, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks
The block lasted somewhat longer than 24 hours, for some reason, but I'm okay now. Should I remove the tag from my talk history? I know one is not supposed to remove anything except vandalism from one's talk but I don't want to confuse anyone. Badagnani 00:00, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Jinxtengu
Oh hi man. Keep up the good work and all that. Just wondering i got myself a new user page perhaps you would like to add some constructive criticism?
~~Jinxtengu~~
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The ol' Macedonian dispute raising its head again
I'd almost forgotten that could be such a hotbed of POV editing, all burrowed away in the ESC like that. Thanks for catching the bulk of the vandalism. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 07:58, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Samuel and tomanada
Hi Luna, Samuel Luo and Tomananda are two different users, they were suspected as being each others’ sock puppets before please see here --Yueyuen 08:20, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Hi, Samuel Luo asked me to send you this message. Samuel: Hi Luna, I can understand why you did what you did and I applaud you for trying hard to identify and punish cheaters, however you blocking me and tomanada is based on a misunderstanding. This article published by the Bay area reporter here would show you that we are two people both interested in the Falun Gong. We are simply sharing the same house and internet account to save money, there is no violation here. I hope you can unblock both Tomanada ASAP. Thanks Samuel. --Yueyuen 09:18, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Luna, one more message from Samuel Luo. Samuel: “Thanks for withdrawing the block, there is one more issue that I wish you could help. Tomanada was blocked yesterday, unfairly I might add, and I was auto-blocked for using the same IP. Could you kindly unblock me? Thanks, Samuel. --Yueyuen 09:37, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for Devandalizing!
Thank you for devandalizing my talk page. I suppose now that I've started looking at more pages and getting rid of vandalism on some, that was bound to happen! One quick thing - 67.171.243.54 decided to take your warning off the talk page for that account, so I put it back. Finally - on the UNC-Duke Rivalry talk page, did you delete the comments for 67.171.243.54 due to profanity or...? Personally, I would have thought they would stay in since they're in the talk page for an article rather than the article itself. Thanks again! DukeEGR93 14:09, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Talk:Tetrix
Hi. About a month ago, I tagged a talk page for speedy deletion as spam, which you subsequently deleted. The page has now been recreated by the same anon user. Since he has taken issue with my actions (search for your sig on my talk page), I didn't want to tag it again and embroil myself further with this person. I was wondering if the talk page should be re-speedied (either as spam or as a re-created deleted page), or should now go through the MfD process, or should just be left alone? By the way, it now isn't really spam, since it doesn't contain the link. So, I dunno. Just thought I'd ask for your input and opinion. Thanks for your time! --Storkk 19:23, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
James Hol
Luna, I noticed this user was accusing me of rubbish, that I don't understand. Could you please check this out. James Hol has also vandalized my user page, check it out Kelvin Williams.
Could you please fix this probalem for me Kelvin Williams 01:32, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
External Link Spamming
Hi Luna Santin
I only found Misplaced Pages recently. And I’m gobsmacked. One can’t fail to be impressed with the collective power of this thing. It’s like the “Borg” from Star Trek. Assimilate and adapt.
While I was looking up “Drakensberg” and “Drakensberg-related” things and I couldn’t help but notice that you recently intervened on an external link spamming problem. But there’s quite a bit (I think) that you missed. In fact it’s so pervasive, it’s almost systematic.
I found it first on the “Tugela Falls” page, then on the “Giant’s Castle” page, then on the “Champagne Castle” page, then on the “Drakensberg” page and then on the “KwaZulu Natal” page. The questionable links are: www.drakensberg-tourism.com, www.antbear.co.za, www.drakensberg.net, www.drakensberg-tourism/giants-castle.html, www.drakensberg.net/giants-castle.html. www.drakensberg-tourism/tugela-falls.html, www.south-africa-tours/drakensberg.html, www.drakensberg-tourism.com/northern-drakensberg-accommodation.html and www.drakensberg-tourist-map.com. Then I started to find them on foreign language pages: de.wikipedia.org:80/Drakensberge; ca.wikipedia.org:80/KwaZulu-Natal. And I’m sure there are more – I just haven’t found them.
If you check the “whois” records you’ll find that the same person owns all these sites and their purpose is to promote the Antbear Guest House and certain other commercial enterprises. I’m sure that’s not what Misplaced Pages is about.
I’d fix this myself if I could, but Misplaced Pages is quite intimidating for a new boy and I’m going to have to feel my way through this slowly. Also it’s not straightforward: most of the discussion pages have either been deleted, are tied up with a special mountain project or aren’t watched. And you’re obviously very experienced. And in any event, controlling something as systematic as this is going to take more sophisticated intervention than I can offer. Hence I’m invading your in-box. I hope you don’t mind.
Kind Regards - Boeppens.
- Hi Luna, I guess I'm invading your in-box too :) If you don't have time to look into this, let me know and I'll be happy to. Linkspam is one of my pet peeves because: A) I think it damages our credibilty, and B) Given how selflessly our editors work on this project, it really pisses me off to see people try to profit from it. Still, this was your mail and it's your call; I'm just willing to help if needed. PS - a big "Thank You!" to Boeppens for pointing this out. --Doc Tropics 07:18, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
- No problem, I know you're busy putting out fires. Tomorrow I'll follow up on the info from Boeppens and verify. If it's promotional linking as "B" suggests, I'll put on my combat boots and go linkstomping :) --Doc Tropics 08:13, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
- "What we have here is a target-rich environment". Boeppens was right about the linkspam. In fact, Tugela Falls had five External Links which appeared to be different pages, but every single one of them led to "Antbear Guest House". I eliminated every such link that I could find, and I'll keep those pages watchlisted. Since I lack the academic background to make serious contributions to most articles, it pleases me that I can contribute in other ways, like this. Just let me know if ever you need something stomped on; my combat boots are at your service :) --Doc Tropics 19:14, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Do you know a troll when you see one?
Just asking...Miltopia (talk · contribs) is an ED trolling account...same name used there as here..."Serious business" is a popular theme on encyclopedia dramatica. Let's not be going around allowing wikistalking to go unpunished. This editor showed up, out of the blue on an article I have been working on at Dysgenics , then soon comes to an article I just got through creating at Folsom Expedition and well, look at the other stuff, like , claims he is trying to avoid me, completely out of the blue comment here, , , . See:--MONGO 09:40, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
- So you completely fail to know when a troll is pulling a fast one on you, eh. Okay, I'll take this to AN/I and get this problem resolved...but wheel warring is a bd thing...you shouldn't just go around reverting other admins work...all that does is breed discontent and distrust...I have only once overturned another admins block.--MONGO 10:09, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
- You didn't rollback my block...another admin did. IRC is not the way to determine consensus.--MONGO 10:39, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Schizophrenia Article Protection
Hi, I occassionally edit the Schizophrenia article and noticed that the page is now protected...Could you let me know why and what is the current dispute...I'd like to help quell any rages going on, if I can. Thanks. DPeterson 13:15, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Miltopia
I assume you are going to inform this user that their unblock is conditional on his active attempts to avoid MONGO, correct? JBKramer 13:57, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Brahma Kumaris World Spiritual University
Dear Sir, I would like to request for this page to be sprotected again. User 195.82.106.244 keeps vandalizing the page without previous discussion on talk page. Admin Jossi was helping on this. I am contacting you because you removed the tag. I would like to request the tag to be placed there again.
Thank you 72.91.4.91 17:29, 15 November 2006 (UTC) Avyakt7