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Well, by the same token ('''logically''') what you removed at the other article was also in the source, and therefore, esp. since it was high quality historical material, should not have been removed. There is no policy coherence in the two edits. In one you can expunge a sourced statement as superfluous, in the other, you revert a challenged statement from a middling source by asserting it is ''in the source'' and therefore must stay.] (]) 19:28, 6 April 2019 (UTC) Well, by the same token ('''logically''') what you removed at the other article was also in the source, and therefore, esp. since it was high quality historical material, should not have been removed. There is no policy coherence in the two edits. In one you can expunge a sourced statement as superfluous, in the other, you revert a challenged statement from a middling source by asserting it is ''in the source'' and therefore must stay.] (]) 19:28, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
:The disputed content is referenced to the website of ], an educational institution that Berland founded and completely controlled for many years. The core content policy of Verifiability covers this at the section ], which excludes content that is "unduly self-serving" and that certainly applies to this non-neutral "draw closer to the Torah path" content. ] ] 19:44, 6 April 2019 (UTC) :The disputed content is referenced to the website of ], an educational institution that Berland founded and completely controlled for many years. The core content policy of Verifiability covers this at the section ], which excludes content that is "unduly self-serving" and that certainly applies to this non-neutral "draw closer to the Torah path" content. ] ] 19:44, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

: @Nishidan Don't poison the well.
: @Cullen328 The statement is obviously true, and therefore not "unduly" self-serving. I would be fine with tagging it for a better source, but why remove this? ] (]) 21:08, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

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"The 'Torah path'"

Can't wait to hear the rationale for this. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 15:16, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Restoring sourced information which is reliably sourced and 100% likely to be true. Debresser (talk) 17:06, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
Per WP:BURDEN, get consensus for inclusion. Start an RfC, perhaps? Nomoskedasticity (talk) 17:12, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
This is relevant information and reliably sourced, so the burden is on you to show why this should not be included. Debresser (talk) 17:48, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

(a) At Jewish religious clothing‎, Debresser you removed a key historical fact from a strong academic source as 'superfluous', and continued to remove it. Remove superfluous sentence

Here (Eliezer Berland) you are challenged for including material from a so-so source, which the other editor thinks acceptable only for bare facts.

You insist on restoring what N regards as a superfluous sentence stating

Well, by the same token (logically) what you removed at the other article was also in the source, and therefore, esp. since it was high quality historical material, should not have been removed. There is no policy coherence in the two edits. In one you can expunge a sourced statement as superfluous, in the other, you revert a challenged statement from a middling source by asserting it is in the source and therefore must stay.Nishidani (talk) 19:28, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

The disputed content is referenced to the website of Shuvu Bonim, an educational institution that Berland founded and completely controlled for many years. The core content policy of Verifiability covers this at the section WP:SELFPUB, which excludes content that is "unduly self-serving" and that certainly applies to this non-neutral "draw closer to the Torah path" content. Cullen Let's discuss it 19:44, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
@Nishidan Don't poison the well.
@Cullen328 The statement is obviously true, and therefore not "unduly" self-serving. I would be fine with tagging it for a better source, but why remove this? Debresser (talk) 21:08, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
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