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With sources as normal credits (https://www.mobygames.com/game/windows/half-life/credits) aren't helpful. ] (]) 17:12, 24 March 2019 (UTC) With sources as normal credits (https://www.mobygames.com/game/windows/half-life/credits) aren't helpful. ] (]) 17:12, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

== Vortigaunts are hard to kill, anybody got any tips or tricks to defeat them? ==


(SPOILERS, DO NOT READ IF YOU HAVEN'T PLAYED THE GAME YET!)


I have low health in half-life, and I escaped from the headcrabs. I see a headcrab that jumpscares me (not really, but a small one at least). It drains my health down 5 health. I see 2 scientists and they get grabbed into a vent, and then I get ammo and health. I see Vortigaunts after I grab the ammo and health, and then I kill every Vortigaunt but two, that kills me with their claws and powers. I die every time. I did see a scientist, but he died because of a barnacle. Then I don't get ammo or health. Did anyone get tips or tricks? Would really help. :)

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Requirements section is too important

"Requirements" section is one of the most important sections of a videogame article in wikipedia. where the is it???!!! --190.231.47.181 (talk) 18:07, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Keep in mind that basic Misplaced Pages policy entails that articles are informative and encyclopedic in nature, and are not meant to be video game manuals for would-be players. Articles present information for a general, concise, terse taste of the subject. See Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Video games/Article guidelines for more info. GabeIglesia (talk) 21:56, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Other Half-Life expansion

I noticed that there is no reference to another little known expansion to the Half-Life game. The smaller expansion is located with another game (Gunman Chronicles maybe), but I am not sure which for it has been years since I played it. The expansion basically consists of three missions. It starts off with Freeman talking to the G-Man in an office and the missions take place in a carnival setting, caves, and then some sort of shipping factory. If memory serves me correct, the purpose of those three missions was to either capture or set free three different crystals of some sort. Is there anyone that can verify this? I believe it came out around 2001-2002. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jayveran (talk • contribs) 23:29, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

I had Gunman Chronicles (GC) back when I don't remember this. I recall once plasying something similar to what you describe but I believe it was just a fan mod. Even so, if there was a mod within GC I doubt it would be considered an official mod. Яehevkor ✉ 11:17, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Budget?

Anyone know the game's budget? --82.170.113.123 (talk) 13:59, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Release Date

Seeing some conflicting information on the release date for Half-Life, based on the most recent edit by User:Merrick Simms. Steam has changed their listed release date listed from Nov 19th to Nov 8th. Some reviews list Nov 19th, however, some use Oct 31st (Including Metacritic and IGN, but I believe they may be calling it "published date"). Think we need to get this cleared up and stick a source specifically to the release date. -- ferret (talk) 12:09, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

It's going to be difficult to cleared up this problem. I have an article about the 15 years of Half-Life on Lambda generation and two wikis. The Combine Overwiki and the Valve Developer Community's wiki. The release date is november 19 on this website and the two wiki :
http://lambdageneration.com/community/half-life/15-years-of-half-life/
https://developer.valvesoftware.com/Valve_Time
http://combineoverwiki.net/Half-Life
The archives about Steam are clear about thi but why they change in this case ? I guess the only way is to ask Valve about that.
Merrick Simms (talk) 14:27, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Important Firsts

There are some important firsts in HL that aren't really mentioned. It was the first game to default to WASD + mouse (Quake and Quake II both defaulted to keyboard only control and arrow keys). There are rumors that they used WASD because those were the keys used by famous Quake gamer, Thresh.72.166.65.132 (talk) 02:05, 10 April 2014 (UTC)IB

Thanks! I can add that, but I'll need a source stating that before I do. That's a pretty big claim to make, and I don't want to do it if it's inaccurate. --Nicereddy (talk) 02:40, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Sorry but it wasn't the first to use WASD + mouse, Delta Force released a few months earlier used WASD + mouse by default.109.156.82.172 (talk) 14:43, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Grammatic mistake?

Shouldn't "it was too ambitious a project" be "it was too ambitious project"? Second row in second paragraph. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.253.141.38 (talk) 20:47, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

Discussion about merging Half-Life: Source into Half-Life (video game)

The Half-Life: Source was recreated last year. With the new additions, I still don't think there is enough distinct information to warrant its own article. It's lacking detail and content in all areas. Anything currently written there can be summarised in several sentences within this article. I am proposing content be merged again and Half Life: Source be redirected back to Half Life. The1337gamer (talk) 21:48, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

  • merge it's not even a remake, it's a port to a new engine. There's not enough difference for a separate article. Deunanknute (talk) 23:07, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
  • Merge The game is nearly identical to the original release. The article has barely any content, and users are forced to read the Half-Life article if they want to know more about the game. Might as well merge the articles and keep all the information in the same place. Reach Out to the Truth 00:18, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
  • Merge. Unless print sources pop up, the game's online sources predominantly discuss it in the context of the main game. The Black Mesa remake has much more coverage. I think there's consensus to go ahead with this. czar ⨹ 18:40, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

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Valve LLC / Valve Corporation / Valve

Yo. I get where everyone's coming from. The company was called Valve LLC at the time. Sure.

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I have to say that your example actually muddies the waters even more - Rare weren't called "Ultimate Play the Game" at the time, they were called Ashby Computers and Graphics - they only traded as Ultimate. So in your example it's reasonable to not use the actual trading name of a company when deciding who the developer is. Chaheel Riens (talk) 12:48, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
I didn't know that, bad example, thanks. But it doesn't change the point: we use the common name. Popcornduff (talk) 13:01, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
It is far to says that the common name should be used, but due to the disambiguation of the device, a valve, the Valve Corporation article talk page dicded to use "Valve Corporation" instead of "Valve (company)", wherefore every article concerning it links to an unpipied "Valve Corporation", such as infoboxes and leads of their games, other articles mentioning it, or citations' "publisher" field, which, fairly, makes sense. The "Valve L.L.C." ("L.L.C." is a common form of writing ", LLC" from limited liability company, sometimes used in Washington State) title was then inserted to Valve's pre-2003 games to differentiate it from the disambiguated "Valve Corporation", as it was not the case back then.
I agree that we could pipe it every time to Valve, but "Valve Corporation" was commonly adopted on this encyclopedia for the first mention, to know which "Valve" is meant in the first place, and Valve may be used further on, such as it is seen on their games' articles as well as their own article. Saying, as long as the disambiguation and common usage of "Valve Corporation" presists as-is currently, we should keep Valve L.L.C. for infobox and lead, to introduce the "Valve" in question, then follow up with Valve through the article. If you would tend to change the disambiguation as a whole, please confront the according talk page. Lordtobi (✉) 13:31, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
It seems to me that the name of the Valve Corporation article - with regards to concerns like disambiguation - is a separate issue from how we refer to the company in prose. Popcornduff (talk) 13:48, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
I posted on the Valve talk page. Thanks for the heads-up. I guess the conversation should be happening there, not here. Popcornduff (talk) 14:03, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
I'm still proposing to use "Valve" in this article and others. I invite others to contribute their thoughts on the Valve Corporation talk page. Popcornduff (talk) 10:23, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

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Noclip documentary due next week

Teaser vid but the full will be out Dec. 10. . --Masem (t) 19:52, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

Needs info on the censored German version

With immortal scientists, robot Marines, and shit (mostly shit). SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 20:55, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

Clarify "shit (mostly shit)". please. Also requires sources. Lordtobi (✉) 20:56, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
I got a Polygon one, and know why we know about it. --Masem (t) 21:08, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

Polygon does qualify as shit indeed. Surprised anyone wouldn't know because it's one of the most infamous cases of FPS censorship, similar to the denazified Wolfenstein by Nintendo. SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 23:14, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

Lead summary needs to include the mention of derived games

Notably CS. Also the expansions, too. --SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 08:53, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Also implement that list of sources above and delete the used ones. Especially if they can replace my Amazon links - and i couldn't even find anything regarding Half-Life: Platinum Pack anymore. SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 09:28, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Infobox needs programmers, artists, and so on

With sources as normal credits (https://www.mobygames.com/game/windows/half-life/credits) aren't helpful. SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 17:12, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Vortigaunts are hard to kill, anybody got any tips or tricks to defeat them?

(SPOILERS, DO NOT READ IF YOU HAVEN'T PLAYED THE GAME YET!)


I have low health in half-life, and I escaped from the headcrabs. I see a headcrab that jumpscares me (not really, but a small one at least). It drains my health down 5 health. I see 2 scientists and they get grabbed into a vent, and then I get ammo and health. I see Vortigaunts after I grab the ammo and health, and then I kill every Vortigaunt but two, that kills me with their claws and powers. I die every time. I did see a scientist, but he died because of a barnacle. Then I don't get ammo or health. Did anyone get tips or tricks? Would really help. :)

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