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Wikibreak

Walter Burley Griffin

Notwithstanding your note about wikibreak, since you have been editing recently ... I have just reverted your changes of about 2 weeks ago to Walter Burley Griffin. My apologies but your edits were made after significant unexplained alterations to the article by an anon . If you want to make further corrections to the article please go ahead but please don't restore the anon's blanking.--Golden Wattle 23:51, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Removal of TOCright

The most pressing accessibility issue with the table of contents being on the right is its placement: if it's above the lead text of an article then screen reader users won't notice the lead text, because in 99.9% of wikipedia articles, the lead text is above the table of contents. Screen reader users navigate by headings, so if they're in the table of contents and move to the next heading, they'll miss the lead text altogether. See Misplaced Pages talk:Accessibility #articles with a floating TOC where I brought this up once; per that conversation, because the article has many headings and no images, I've put the TOCright template where the table of contents would normally go. I hope this doesn't mess things up too much, but I believe the position of key features of wikipedia like the TOC should *never* be changed except in unusual circumstances. Graham87 08:31, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry but it's not obvious to me what is wrong. From reading help:section #Floating the TOC and template talk:TOCright, I gather that the TOC should be floated in lists with a long table of contents, but the TOC shouldn't appear above the lead section unless the lead section is very long. In List of high schools in Illinois, the lead section is only a sentence but the table of contents is very large, so I can understand why it should be floated and according to what is written at the pages I linked above, it shouldn't be a problem if the TOC is below the lead section. Maybe those guidelines need modification, and if so, that's alright. But I don't think we should make it harder for screen reader users (who already have a difficult enough time on the net as it is), by breaking the site layout. Most of us use Internet Explorer or Mozilla Firefox, but the screen readers use the Document Object Model of the browsers to present web pages in a structured format that is easier to use. Graham87 08:35, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

400 North Lake Shore Drive

Please state your reason for deleting the external link that you removed from the article: 400 North Lake Shore Drive. In the future, add this to the edit line if there is something innapropriate. --Kalmia 06:14, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

• The same new user who added that external link (linking to what appears to be a commercial site) added similar links to about a dozen articles. Even though I suspect this user may be adding links to their own site in violation of WP:EL, I looked at each of the links and only reverted those that I felt added nothing significant to the article. If you disagree, please feel free to re-add it. I agree I probably should have deleted the link manually (rather than using the rollback button) so that I could put in a more descriptive edit summary, but with 5 or 6 to do and only a few minutes to spare, I did it the quick way. -- DS1953 16:34, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your support!

A week ago I nominated myself, hoping to be able to help Misplaced Pages as an administrator as much as a WikiGnome. I am very glad many others shared my thoughts, including you. Thank you for your trust! Be sure I will use these tools to protect and prevent and not to harass or punish. Should you feel I am overreacting, pat me so that I can correct myself. Thanks again! ReyBrujo 21:19, 18 November 2006 (UTC)