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Just for the matter of record, CheckUser showed that PANONIAN has not used sock puppets and he did not send any death threats to VinceB (see ]). ] 18:06, 27 November 2006 (UTC) Just for the matter of record, CheckUser showed that PANONIAN has not used sock puppets and he did not send any death threats to VinceB (see ]). ] 18:06, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
:Thanks for the update. Post again if Vince's behavior escalates or continues. I hope the clear checkuser de-escalates the problem. Best wishes, <font face="Verdana">]<sup>'']]''</sup></font> 19:57, 27 November 2006 (UTC) :Thanks for the update. Post again if Vince's behavior escalates or continues. I hope the clear checkuser de-escalates the problem. Best wishes, <font face="Verdana">]<sup>'']]''</sup></font> 19:57, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

==={{User|ANONYMOUS COWARD0xC0DE}}===
I've been editing the ] page and this user ] has engaged in alot of arrogant insinuation that his edits are justified. I browsed his contributions that he made to wikipedia and he's not able to restrict his personal opinion in the NPOV environment. Which I found out was evident here ] especially at ]. Thank you for looking in. ] 09:28, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
*Please '''provide ]''' per instructions in the header. ] <sup>]</sup> 12:27, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
**I've looked over the talk edits he's made around and since the time of your report; I didn't find anything particularly nasty, but he did write a lot. If there is something serious that I've missed, please cite ] and mention specific lines or phrases used. Otherwise, I suspect his "arrogance" is below the sort of level that this board is accustomed to dealing with. You might consider getting together a few editors to start a ] if his behavior is problematic. ] 00:02, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

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    ShortcutThis page is intended to get attention quickly when dealing with personal attacks. It is not intended to serve as a form of mediation or a type of RFC. Only Personal attacks are dealt with on this page, on their own merits in accordance with Misplaced Pages's No Personal Attacks policy

    For editors who want a personal attack situation reviewed:

    1. Consider that in most cases, ignoring the attack is better than requesting sanction against the attacker. Do not report people if you are likewise guilty of hostility towards them.
    2. Make sure the user has actually commited a personal attack. (Please note that "personal attacks" are defined only under the WP:NPA policy. If a statement is not considered a personal attack under the intended spirit of this policy, it does not belong here.)
    3. The editor must have been warned earlier. The {{npa2}}, and {{npa3}} templates may be appropriate for new users; for long-term editors, it's preferable to write something rather than using a standard template. Reports of unwarned editors may be removed.
    4. If the behavior hasn't stopped, add the following header to the New Reports section of this page in the following format:
      ==={{User|NAME OF USER}}=== replacing NAME OF USER with the user name or IP address concerned, with a brief reason for listing below. Be sure to include diffs.
    5. If an editor removes the IP or username and doesn't handle the matter to your satisfaction, take it to the editor's talk page or the administrators' noticeboard, but do not re-list the user here.
    6. NB - Due to misunderstanding of these instructions and/or mis-use of this process, comments not in strict adhereance to these instructions WILL be removed. This page deals only with personal attacks under the policy WP:NPA. Reports deemed to be inappropriate for this page are liable to be moved to an appropriate venue where one exists.


    For those reported on this page:

    1. A reviewer or an administrator will review each report on this page. In dealing with the report, the contribution history of the reported user shall be checked along with the diffs provided in the report. Where no personal attack is evident, then no action will be taken - however, should an administrator see that another seperate issue is evident, appropriate action or advice for that issue may be taken/given at his or her discretion and in line with wiki policy.
    2. Reports on this page stand on their own merits in accordance with Misplaced Pages's no personal attacks policy. As such, disputes and discussions over reports are not suitable for this page except for such comments left by admins or reviewers describing their actions and/or findings. If you notice your account reported at this page, please trust that the administrators and reviewers dealing with reports will deal with it in an even-handed and fair manner on the basis of policy alone. If you feel strongly that another "side to the story", issue, or another piece of information is missing from a report please refrain from posting here, and instead leave your comment on your talk page under the title NPA Report or another other clear and related title. The reviewing party will see this message and take it into account where applicable.

    For users handling assistance requests:

    1. For each of the users linked here, open their contributions and check for personal attacks. Also check if the users have been sufficiently warned for the current personal attack and whether they've continued to commit personal attacks after being warned.
    2. Note that there is an important difference between a user who makes many good contributions and a few personal attacks, and a user whose last edits are (nearly) all personal attacks or other conflict.
    3. Do nothing, warn them again, or, if you are an adminstrator, block the user in question as you think is required. Explain things carefully to the user who listed the attacker if you feel there's been a misunderstanding.
    4. Move the report to the Open Reports section and give an update to the status of the report.
    5. Delete old reports that have been dealt with.

    Please consider adding this page to your watchlist to make life easier for non-administrator RC-patrollers.

    New reports

    Prespan (talk · contribs)

    Sysop and users abuse. A Cavalist team undermines WP’s reliability promoting Greek nationalistic POV. There’s a well collaborated group of 2 WP sysops and 8 WP users working systematically in full daily basis to promote ultra natioanalistic Greek POV. They intervene in any related new articles, make Greek POV edits, edit wars, reverts, deletions, block users, merges and redirects. Their main task is political articles about Rebublic of Macedonia, Turkey, Bulgaria, Albania, their minorities in Greece and Greek history.

    Khoikhoi (sysop) and Future Perfect at Sunrise (sysop) recently deleted article: Voden inscription, and protected articles as Minorities in Greece and Bulgarian Human Rights in Macedonia. They also redirected new articles as Bulgarian minority in Greece to Minorities of Greece, Bulgarians in Greece to Minorities in Greece and Tarlis incident to Treaty of Sevres without warning and discussion.

    All redirects don’t allow traces . Practically this action is equivalent to speady deletion because redirected articles are not included to target articles and prevents recreating them under same name.

    List of abusers involved:

    • user:Khoikhoi (sysop,) He has been probated and unprobated
    • user:Future Perfect at Sunrise (sysop) ,
    • user:Aldux,
    • user:Tekleni,
    • user:Telex,
    • user:NikoSilver,
    • user:Euthymios,
    • user:Hectorian,
    • user:Politis,
    • user:Miskin

    Some of them are suspected employees of Greek National Intelligence Service (E.Y.Π.) and members of ultra natioanalistic organizations in favor of Greek interests.

    The situation has become unacceptible. Please chek their “contributions” and act immediatelly.


    Open reports

    PANONIAN (talk · contribs)

    This user wrote insulting comments about me on Talk:Serbophobia, calling me “mister Double Standards”, among other things on 23:50, 11 November 2006.--MaGioZal 15:15, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

    That doesn't seem too serious. You did mention "among other things," though -- what sorts of other things? Luna Santin 20:48, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
    This thing: Just stick to your own bussiness (find something to fuck perhaps) and let people to live their lives in peace, ok?.--MaGioZal 20:58, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
    Why raise a request 18 days after the original post? Durova 22:37, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
    Because just recently I’ve discovered this edit and just recently also I’ve discovered about the existence of this noticeborad page regarding personal attacks.--MaGioZal 03:03, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

    TheFEARgod (talk · contribs)

    This user began calling me a troll just because of my opinions on the talk page of the article 1995 NATO bombing in Bosnia and Herzegovina, including the add of an accusatory “don’t feed the trolls” picture by the side of what I wrote. Well, I felt myself unjustly accused of something that I didn’t done, so I removed that picture and tryed to explain why. Well, he re-posted the picture I’ve deleted four times, even after I’ve quitted the discussion of that section:

    After that, the user in two other occasions accused me of trolling again, it seems just because I didn’t agree with his (and his friends) opinions:

    Well, it seems like this is the very case of personal attacking using the “troll accusation” method.--MaGioZal 15:18, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

    It appears he's still attempting discussion, however; you might consider dispute resolution. Luna Santin 20:50, 29 November 2006 (UTC)


    Laughing_Man (talk · contribs)

    This user (that appeared many times toghether with TheFEARgod (talk · contribs) in the talk pages) has made the following attacks:

    --MaGioZal 15:36, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

    It appears he's still attempting discussion. You might consider the dispute resolution process, or opening an RfC regarding user behavior. Luna Santin 23:54, 29 November 2006 (UTC)


    217.134.89.177 (talk · contribs)

    This user, which wording, editing behavior and opinions are very similar to 217.134.110.19 (talk · contribs), 195.92.67.75 (talk · contribs) (the three IP numbers are from the ISP Energis UK) and Laughing_Man (talk · contribs), has made the following comment when reverted my edit on Vojislav Seselj article:

    --MaGioZal 15:38, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

    That one does concern me. Without a little more evidence, though, I'm not sure if it's one of the other users logged out, or just someone else entirely. You might consider submitting a request for checkuser, and see if they turn anything up for you. Luna Santin 23:56, 29 November 2006 (UTC)


    Greier (talk · contribs)

    I recently blocked Greier (who has a history of making personal attacks) for 48 hours. Since he has been unblocked, he's made the following comments:

    • Let`s add all those links to The Economist, Ziua, etc. Let`s turn this campaign against them. Mauco is gonna loose his job, Mauco is gonna loose his job, Mauco is gonna loose his job... hahah haha
    • Pathetic, both in arguments, and in insults...
    • You persoanlly, won`t get s#it from me. You`re a vain, egocentric person. As for your concern of protochronism, a subject by far not worthy off all this attention, I know that it`s very trendy to play the revisionist type... it put`s you in the spotlight.
    • You hold on to that hankie, and in five minutes you can come and wipe me, alright?
    • americans...

    I don't think it's necessary to give him {{npa2}}, {{npa3}}, and {{npa4}} every single time. He knows the rules, and his block log shows that. Khoikhoi 02:34, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

    More:
    Opposed due to the câcat (Origin of Romanians????) and inability to accept Dhans ego (Regulamentul Organic????). Also see WP:OWN. If others are weak enough to fall for your logorrhea, that is not what you can say about me.
    Of course the name it`s awkward. It`s not made by Dachhchhhchn.
    Khoikhoi 21:18, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

    Also, take a look at his edits to Lăutari.. He's reverting edits to the page and ignoring requests for discussion... It's becoming a revert war, and I think he's already broken the 3 revert rule..--Vercalos 21:40, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

    OK. He's been blocked for a week for violating the 3RR rule. Someone keeps removing his report from the page though..--Vercalos 22:21, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
    Yep, blocked for a week by another admin, possibly related to this sort of behavior, regardless of whether this report was seen. Since the block is for a week, I'm thinking we may as well remove the report for now, and repost if anything new develops -- thoughts? Luna Santin 23:48, 29 November 2006 (UTC)


    66.7.225.34 (talk · contribs)

    The anonymous IP has extremely similar edit pattern, tone, and apparently beliefs as User:RichardBennett and it is overwhelmingly likely that they are the same person.

    • (accusations of being 'google' and apparently censoring or something weird)
    • "the issue is obviously over his head and he's misleading the reader with his personal viewpoint. Stephen Colbert would get a good laugh over this revision of reality."
    • (good faith edit labelled as vandalism)
    • "Google, Save the Internet put the mainstream definition into their legislative proposal, just like your employer did. TBL is an interesting fellow, but his definition of NN is idiosyncratic. Now go ask your overlords what to do now that you've been outed"
    • (accusations of being "completely ignorant", together with an I'm better than you attack: "knowledgeable people")

    (n.b. this is just a small selection).

    The user in his time in the wikipedia has also engaged in many extreme violations of NPOV, and has a long history of personal attacks including towards admins as a brief look at User_talk:RichardBennett#Blocked_for_24_hours_by_the_fruitcake_Raul654 will show.WolfKeeper 05:03, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

    Was on my way to block, just now, given past history. But he's already gotten 24 hours for 3RR. Please advise if this sort of abuse continues. I'll try to keep an eye on it. Luna Santin 20:39, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

    Zabrak (talk · contribs)

    This user has a lengthy and tempermental edit history on Misplaced Pages. Has been issued several "Final warnings" for both personal attacks and vandalism. Has continued to ignore all warnings and maintains disruptive behaviour on many article talk pages without any consideration for WP:CIVIL. Most recent WP:NPA violation can be found here. Prior to creating the Zabrak user name, the same user edited as IP 71.236.225.50 (talk · contribs). This IP, like the Zabrak user account had the same long history of NPA's and vandalism. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 03:23, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

    Blocked for a month. Obvious sock of Dragong4 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), who was working on a nice 6 month block for similar behavior. I think the repeated warnings are unheeded and at this point, not working. --Ars Scriptor 04:56, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

    VinceB (talk · contribs)

    Warned in the past up to npa3 and blocked for edit warring and sockpuppetry. Now renewed personal attack against another editor: after I advised him to cool down when he started to use ad hominem in that content dispute. He also publicly assumed a use of sockpuppets before he asked for CheckUser or provided any evidence, perhaps hoping to harm reputation of a well-established user. Tankred 18:14, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

    I do not see any personal attacks here. Moreover, I repeat: Please let him be in peace for one day! Or do you find it funny that he has recieved a death threat? I don't. --Öcsi 21:13, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

    I believe the words "You hv no idea abt history" is a personal attack. Instead of discussing the actual content dispute, VinceB has accused editors of not knowing history on several occasions. This is not a good way how to collaborate in Misplaced Pages. As to the threats placed by an IP to his user page, I am quite shocked by them. But the attack reported here preceded those threats, so VinceB cannot say he questioned knowledge of other editors because of mental distress or something. Tankred 21:27, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

    Thanks. Better to review your warning also, wheter it was calming, or just another wood dropped into the fire to make it bigger, especially the last line. And again, only I was warned by you, PANONIAN not. Your discussion page is full of assuming users of being sockpuppets, whether you wrote it or not, you not declined yrself from these accusations and not warned others to stop writing such things, and/or report them here, as you do it now. And we talked it through several times what's the problem with yr interpretation of things, such as me & sockpuppetry. --Vince 01:15, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

    According to these diffs, VinceB has violated WP:AGF and WP:CIVIL in mild ways. This isn't on the level that got him blocked before and a user page warning is appropriate for the current incidents. Although I'm not blocking for this I also want to make it clear that it isn't acceptable. If someone comes back in a few weeks and posts a series of diffs that demonstrate similar behavior as habitual, and if it's reasonably clear that other editors haven't provoked the put-downs and snide comments, then I will block. Durova 03:45, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
    I completely agree with your summary of the events. But I would like to ask either you or someone else to actually warn VinceB. Only the CheckUser can show whether the PANONIAN really used sock puppets in a disruptive way. Without any evidence from CheckUser, it is very rude to say that a user with a record of 27,114 edits since 2004 and six barnstars "wrote death threats" or that he broke 3RR. It would be nice if VinceB can refrain himself from making new strong accusatory comments as he has just done (see diffs in the last sentence) until the CheckUser clarifies the whole situation. Tankred 00:48, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
    Block warning issued along with a couple of productive suggestions. Durova 16:04, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

    Just for the matter of record, CheckUser showed that PANONIAN has not used sock puppets and he did not send any death threats to VinceB (see Misplaced Pages:Requests for checkuser/Case/PANONIAN). Tankred 18:06, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

    Thanks for the update. Post again if Vince's behavior escalates or continues. I hope the clear checkuser de-escalates the problem. Best wishes, Durova 19:57, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
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