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So I'd suggest removing her mention from this article. Nobody identifies Obama as Scots-Irish American because of his mother's ethnicity. You are either one or the other. I don't want to get into an edit war over this, so I'll leave it to others for reaching a consensus and doing the needful. ] 07:09, 6 October 2019 (UTC) So I'd suggest removing her mention from this article. Nobody identifies Obama as Scots-Irish American because of his mother's ethnicity. You are either one or the other. I don't want to get into an edit war over this, so I'll leave it to others for reaching a consensus and doing the needful. ] 07:09, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
:{{re|Joyson Konkani}} {{tq|and ethnic identity is passed on patrilinnealy}} - what's your basis for this claim? Do you have a source? As a mixed-race person, I find that claim rather interesting. ] (]) 22:27, 6 October 2019 (UTC) :{{re|Joyson Konkani}} {{tq|and ethnic identity is passed on patrilinnealy}} - what's your basis for this claim? Do you have a source? As a mixed-race person, I find that claim rather interesting. ] (]) 22:27, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
:: {{re|Guettarda}} Isn't this supposed to be general knowledge? That's how things are globally. Why? Because of patriarchy! We take our fathers surname, and so we assume his ethnicity as well. This is why Obama is seen as "black" and not "Scots-Irish". Your paternal lineage defines what you are. That's the general custom, barring exceptions like Jews and Tuaregs. I will leave it to others to arrive at a consensus on whether to remove mention of Kamala Harris from this page. On my part, I'm against her inclusion. ] 03:48, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

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"A recent study shows that 23% of Indian business school graduates take a job in United States" ?

I doubt that. Can some one please verify. ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.75.7.202 (talk) 11:41, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Fareed Zakaria

Why is Fareed not a featured Indian American? He is certainly the most prominent and visible Indian working in mainstream media. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.59.151.115 (talk) 16:39, 19 June 2011 (UTC)


I'm not sure. I think this article is seriously crippled if we don't include people who were born in India but are now American citizens. It doesn't make sense. They are Indian Americans. Chinese-born Americans are included in the Chinese Americans article. Philippines-born Americans are included in the Filipino Americans article. Japanese-born Americans are included in the Japanese Americans article. In addition, all of the demographic data cited in this article refer to all people of Indian ancestry, including those who were born in India. We can't limit the article to focus just on America-born Indian-Americans if we include demographic data that is broader than that category. Someone please fix this article to be what it was before someone removed all Indian-born Americans. Beta.s2ph (talk) 07:41, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Fareed Zakaria and his two PIO CNN colleagues (Sanjay Gupta and Ali Velshi) are the three most prominent Indian American newsmen (hell they are overall the most well known Asian American newsmen), at least one of them should be pictured here. Thegreyanomaly (talk) 04:09, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

First Indian Americans

The following reference mentions that Indian Americans have been in what is now the United States since before the American Revolutionary War:

Hope this reference is useful to active users here. G'day! --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 19:30, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Infobox image discussion

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Asian American#Infobox ethnicity representatives. RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 07:29, 4 October 2012 (UTC)Template:Z48

Immigration and progression timeline

Should the section Immigration and progression timeline be in the history section?

If there is no opposition by 18 May 2013, I will be boldy making it a subsection of history.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 14:05, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Requested move 24 September 2015

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The result of the move request was: moved. Jenks24 (talk) 00:46, 2 October 2015 (UTC)



Indian AmericanIndian Americans – Shall we take either as precedents, Talk:Korean Americans/Talk:Chinese Americans or Talk:African American? George Ho (talk) 01:25, 24 September 2015 (UTC)


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Oldest Indian-American communities

Although not stated in the article, one can read about Indian-American communities going back a century (1915?) in California, centered in San Joaquin (Stockton and Lodi), Sutter (Yuba City-Marysville), San Gabriel Valley from Alhambra to West Covina near Los Angeles, and Imperial counties (a.k.a the Imperial Valley). The small but evident Indian immigrants were processed in Angel Island off San Francisco, but came regulations of all Asians in the 1920s which lasted until the 1965 Immigration Reform Act ended racial restrictions. The first arrivals (see Punjabi American) were from the Punjab region (now states) in British India (now India and Pakistan), consists of Hindus, Muslims and some Sikhs (the US' oldest Hindu and Sikh temples can be found in Stockton and Yuba City areas), under farm labor contracts to work in farmlands in these areas. Over time, the mostly male farm workers found local Hispanic/Mexican-American women to marry and have children with (see Punjabi Mexican American). 2605:E000:FDCA:4200:1FA:3A88:955:CACC (talk) 07:01, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

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Language box list

I've noticed for the last few months, there have been factual inaccuracies in the infobox's language list. The top three listed in the sources addressed are Hindi, Gujarati, and Punjabi. It would be superfluous to list every single included in the source, so the top three should be the primary ones to include. There is large percent decrease between 3 (Punjabi) and 4 (Telegu), so the top 3 is the best to suffice. Please don't include your own language just because you want to. This is a list of languages prominently spoken among Indian Americans; it is based on the languages spoken in America, not what is common in India. Thegreyanomaly (talk) 02:29, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

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The Image of the Census of the Percentage of Asian Indians in the United States is a tad outdated as the last U.S. census was in 2010 and the image presented is from the 2010 U.S. Census.

Some of the citations do not seem to work (i.e. 92,96, 108) and another seems to lead to an attack page(69). Vic17indi (talk) 17:15, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

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Percentage of grads cannot be mathematically correct

There is a clear mathematical error in Section 5.1 Education: "39.1% of all Taiwanese in the United States possess a master's, doctorate or other professional degree, which is nearly four times the national average compared with 40% of Indians who have a master's, doctorate or other professional degree, which is five times the national average."

If 39.1% is nearly (i.e., less than) 4x the national average, then 40% can clearly not be 5x the national average. Assuming that the primary sources are accurately cited, either the information from at least one of the primary sources is incorrect, or the statistic in question (i.e., "the national average") is not defined in the same manner across the primary sources.

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How do Sri Lankans fit in with Indians in the US?

Sri Lankans in Canada, Europe, South-East Asia, and Australia usually "merge" with the Indian community to the point that a lot of them don't identify as "Sri Lankan".

The "Sri Lankan Tamils" only really exists for political reasons relating to Tamil politics on the island, and is predominantly used by first generationers with direct interests in the country. The second generation usually merge with Indians/Hindus - in contrast to Pakistanis and often Bangladeshis. I would think that this needed to be pointed out.

I notice that they have similarly high economic status too: $73,856 for Sri Lankans. Lankandude2017 (talk) 22:09, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

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Kamala Harris

Why is Kamala Harris identified in this article as an Indian-American? Her mother may be Indian, but her father is Afro-Jamaican and ethnic identity is passed on patrilinnealy. She also clearly self-identifies as African-American rather than Indian-American. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/op-eds/kamala-harris-embraces-exclusive-blackness-at-the-expense-of-her-indian-heritage So I'd suggest removing her mention from this article. Nobody identifies Obama as Scots-Irish American because of his mother's ethnicity. You are either one or the other. I don't want to get into an edit war over this, so I'll leave it to others for reaching a consensus and doing the needful. Joyson Konkani 07:09, 6 October 2019 (UTC)

@Joyson Konkani: and ethnic identity is passed on patrilinnealy - what's your basis for this claim? Do you have a source? As a mixed-race person, I find that claim rather interesting. Guettarda (talk) 22:27, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
@Guettarda: Isn't this supposed to be general knowledge? That's how things are globally. Why? Because of patriarchy! We take our fathers surname, and so we assume his ethnicity as well. This is why Obama is seen as "black" and not "Scots-Irish". Your paternal lineage defines what you are. That's the general custom, barring exceptions like Jews and Tuaregs. I will leave it to others to arrive at a consensus on whether to remove mention of Kamala Harris from this page. On my part, I'm against her inclusion. Joyson Konkani 03:48, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
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