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Question.

Hi Raul, I don't mean to be annoying, but I didn't get an answer.. Sorry if you're busy, I don't mean to say "hurry up" or anything.. just reminding you.. I'll wait :)

Intellipedia

Comments about Intellipedia? Last I heard they were looking at a HTML-based "wiki"...

Permission To Land Section

Hey Raul, just thought I'd leave you a message to say that someone had messed around with the section on Permission to Land part of the darkness page, I tried to put in stuff from the actual album page but it needs defaulting, I left a message on the discussions part of that page, but I thought I would contact you, hope thats alright, anyways keep up the good work.

Link -> http://en.wikipedia.org/The_Darkness#Permission_To_Land

Theming Icon 20:27, 3 November 2006 (GMT)

Featured Article of the Day Guide Request

Raul654 can you make a guide on how to request a Featured Article of the Day, because I can't understand all the tech terms that you use in the forms. Thanks Jeffmister

Iran-Iraq War Abrbitraion

Mark, Mark here. My level of stress is high over this article. My concern is factual information in context. What we have here is one partisan ramrodding his view into the article. Many have noticed a pro-Iranian slant. It's no accident. No one is disputing the actual US actions in this conflict, only the inflationary puffery propaganda as arranged and selectively sourced in the article as it stands now. No one can add context and sources without having it reverted repeatedly and with insults to anyone trying to participate as a "POV Pusher." I'm an Internet crap magnet when it comes to bluntness. It's a family trait. I say what I think, but this is beyond the pale. Look at the evidence and weigh in if you would. Thanks. Marky48

Problem with an image of Harold Pinter that you uploaded (tagged for speedy deletion due to lack of rationale for fair use as claimed)

Fair use rationale for Image:Harold Pinter.jpg

This file may be deleted.

Thanks for uploading Image:Harold Pinter.jpg. I notice the 'image' page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Misplaced Pages articles constitutes fair use. When you use a generic fair use tag such as {{fair use}} or {{fair use in|article name}}, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale.

If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Misplaced Pages page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any fair use images lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. NYScholar 08:51, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Damn you Raul, you uploaded a fair-use image three years ago and didn't give a rationale! You should be desysopped! Debureaucratted! Decheckusered! Deoversighted! Dearbitratored! De-featured-article-directored! Decabaled! Decapitated! Circumsized! ;) Essjay (Talk) 09:48, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

This is not a joke and no jokes should be made about it. The message above was a template found in the image in question; see

This file is claimed to be used under Misplaced Pages's policy for non-free content but has no explanation as to why it is permitted under the policy. Non-free images need a rationale each time they are used in an article. A rationale must be included on this image description page. Unless at least one rationale is provided, the file will be deleted after Friday, 1 December 2006. Please remove this template if a rationale is provided. Note that the boilerplate copyright tags do not by themselves constitute a rationale. Administrators: delete this file. Usage: {{di-no non-free use rationale|date=23 December 2024}} Notify the uploader with: {{subst:di-no non-free use rationale-notice|1=Raul654}} ~~~~ Add the following to the image captions: {{Deletable file-caption|Friday, 1 December 2006|F6}}%5B%5BWP%3ACSD%23F6%7CF6%5D%5D%3A+Non-free+media+file+with+no+%5B%5BWP%3AFUR%7Cnon-free+use+rationale%5D%5D

The uploader (Raul654) according to his signature in the image history) needs to provide a rationale or delete the image entirely from Misplaced Pages Commons, as it is violating copyrights and not within fair use without any or a convincing rationale for fair use given. It is entirely inappropriate for User:Essjay to reply as he has done above. The template asks that such messages as the one that I posted (the template) be posted on the talk page of such uploaders of images with these tags.--NYScholar 20:00, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Oh lighten up; if you knew anything about Raul654 or myself, you'd know we both take the fair use policy very seriously, and are both quite experienced with it, what with being long-time en admins and Commons admins. The fact of the matter is, Raul uploaded the image long before fair use was an issue on Misplaced Pages, and he's not given it a second thought since then; somebody uploaded a new image over it, and a third person went back and reverted it yesterday, triggering you to tell him it needed a rationale. He'll get to it when he's next around, and if in the meantime, we decide to have some witty banter over it, well then that's just too bad. Essjay (Talk) 00:35, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Essjay: WHY would you even assume that knowing "anything about Raul654 or self is at all relevant to these issues about the tagged images?! (See WP:NPA: "Comment on content, not on the contributor.") I was simply following Misplaced Pages policy--commenting on content not the people making the content; the content of the message to Raul is a template provided by Misplaced Pages! Of course, I knew you were joking, but there are new Wikipedians who follow links, and they need to know that the matter of this content is no joking matter (they need good examples, not bad or misleading ones). They have no idea who you are either. Being an administrator should mean setting a good example.

"That's just too bad"?! What kind of mature response is that!? Going from the ridiculous to the absurd. . . . This section is about a rationale for a photo. Not you or Raul, or your feelings, or witty comebacks.

The uploaders just need to supply the rationales (which they probably cannot, since the images are not within fair use but copyrighted properties), or (as will eventually probably happen automatically) DELETE the images entirely from the Misplaced Pages image database. When they get around to doing it. If you know Raul so well, perhaps you can alert him to this problem via e-mail. I don't know either of you from Adam, and you don't know me either. "Comment on the content, not the contributor." That is, stick with what you might know rather than something or someone about which or whom you know nothing. Your reply was unnecessary and frivolous, funny as it may have been. If you want to joke with Raul--do it privately, not in such a public way. The idea is to solve the problem relating to these images; not to make jokes back and forth to entertain people.--NYScholar 04:04, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

I dispute the relevance of the statement "Raul uploaded the image long before fair use was an issue on Misplaced Pages. . . ." See the image page. He is the original uploader; the tag says there needs to be fair use rationale; he would know that (even in 2003, and he's been around since 2003, according to his talk and user page and the discussions on this talk page.)

"Fair Use" has been an issue on Misplaced Pages for at least a couple or a few years or more. Policies about uploading images have had "fair use" tags and all kinds of criteria that many Wikipedians have ignored for too long, but the issue has been an issue throughout the history of establishing those policies. Please do not mislead people who might come to this talk page via links to the tagged images in the articles using the photos. The matter is really no cause for frivolity. Misplaced Pages is concerned about potential lawsuits due to copyright violations throughout it. Fair use and copyright are legal matters, not causes for joking. Most people who read Misplaced Pages have little interest in the personalities of its contributors. They just want to read useful and reliable articles. I would have preferred if the article in question on Harold Pinter could have kept the image that is more recent, but it is not within fair use either. Pinter is a living author, and most photographs of him are copyright-protected by their professional photographers, not in the public domain or within fair use. Images from the Nobel Prize site are not within fair use (despite people's protestations to the contrary); they are both copyrighted and trademarked; the whole issue has been hotly disputed in Misplaced Pages in previous articles relating to the Nobel Prizes. --NYScholar 04:08, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

I've removed the tag, as it doesn't apply here. Note that the tag clearly says "uploaded after May 4, 2006." In all other instances of a lack of a rationale, you should just ask the uploader to provide one, it's not speediable. Raul: The image is now orfud, however, so it needs to go in an article before 7 days. --Rory096 06:06, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

WP Munich

Hello,

You are invited to join WikiProject Munich!

There are a lot of things to do in this project. From creating new articles to finetuning articles into featured article status.

How can you help?

• You can join a Task Force.
• You can help comform Munich-related articles to Misplaced Pages Policy.
• You can get free Munich-related images under GNU Free Documentation License.
• You can create and edit of Munich-related articles.
• You can do translations from German Misplaced Pages to English Misplaced Pages on Munich-related articles.
• You can help do assessments of Munich-related articles.
• You can help expand articles currently in the Stub-class and Start-class.
• You can help reference articles.
• Since original research is against Misplaced Pages policy, you can research topics to expand. This means you don't need to know anything about Munich.
• You can help expand stubs and start-class articles and help finetune other articles into Featured article status.

A WikiProject of this nature is very broad. Munich has a rich history in sports, culture, politics along with many more topics. Feel free to help out in your area of interest.

If you want to check the project out you can click the link above. If you want to join the project, you can sign up here.

If you have any questions feel free to contact myself or any other member of the project.

You know a lot about feature articles status. Maybe you can help with the project's B-class articles? Kingjeff 19:17, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

WP:NOPRO

I've made some of the changes that Dave suggested. I think the 'notification' is the most significant change - I'll bring it to the community's attention so that it gets followed but I thought I'd check that you approved of it first. --Robdurbar 15:30, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

El Greco featured article nomination

There seems to be an issue down at El Greco featured article nomination where an editor nominated an article and does not wish to withdraw the nomination after the request by the main author and a few other editors. I was just wondering how you stand on the issue and if you could offer your opinion. Thanks and hope to hear what you have to say since this is quite a unique situation, to me at least. - Tutmosis 18:48, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Global Warming

Blech. Since you seem to be generally on top of it, JonMoseley, aka JackMcGuire, breaker of the 3RR rule on global warming is also sending me threatening emails to block your edits (which I obviously would not do.) Just thought you might like to know. Here is the email:

I demand that you TERMINATE   Raul654  from any rights or authority at Misplaced Pages.
Raul654  is  pushing a left-wing BIASED perspective on the page for Global Warming.
There are numerous false statements which I corrected -- backed up by clear citations for each point.
I allowed those statements to remain but BALANCED the discussion with CITATIONS to hard facts.
And rather than confront the hard citations that I provided,   Raul654   HID FROM HIS ATTEMPTS TO LIE in the Misplaced Pages article by blocking me.
He did not identify anything incorrect about the corrections I provided.
He did not counter with any other citations to the contrary.
He only LIED and said that the matters had been previously discussed on the Talk page.   THEY HAD NOT BEEN PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED ON THE TALK PAGE.   The
first mention was today.
Your Global Warming article is curently riddles with UNSUPPORTED assertions from a biased point of view.
If Misplaced Pages is exposed as being a nest of left-wing activists, it will harm the entire enterprise.
Trust me when I say I have the news media connections to make the truth clear.

Feel free to post it on the PA noticeboard. I'm just going to ignore it for now. Thanks! -- Marumari 05:49, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Soliciting votes

For the Joseph W. Tkach article, there has been two support votes, but I know I can get more. The people who worked on the article may not be aware. Are we allowed to ask people to vote? --RelHistBuff 09:10, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

FAC and current event

Can an article with a current event tag be a FA? I'd initially thought no as if it's a current event it can't meet the stability requirement. But then I thought, what if there are no longer daily or weekly updates to it and only occassional new bits of info? Also, at what point would the current event tag come off? See FAC for Mark Foley scandal. Rlevse 11:09, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

I added the stability require *specifically* to avoid people nominating current events. In that particular case, someone nominated Beslan school hostage crisis even before we knew who the shooters were. So my intent was to avoid topics for which crucial information was not known and would be known in a few days.

On the other hand, for the Foley scandal, I've removed the current tag. It doesn't strike me as being current anymore. Just look at the tag - "Information may change rapidly as the event progresses." If it is not changing rapidly, then the tag seems inappropriate. Raul654 16:26, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Ahem :) I nominated Beslan school hostage crisis (nom) in February 2005, almost 6 months after the event. The main objection was references, not stability.

Stability came in about month before. I think it was the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake that was the trigger (now a FA, incidentally, but first nominated on 31 December 2004 (!) and then again on 6 February 2005 before it was successful in April 2006). -- ALoan (Talk) 18:07, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

OK, Thanks Raul. Rlevse 23:19, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Comments left in my e-mail about you

Hello! I received an e-mail criticising you when I logged on this afternoon. I have posted it to the Incidents noticeboard, linked above. Can you assist/resolve the matter? I made the e-mail public as I don't know how many others received it and what the correct course of action would be to take. (aeropagitica) 14:22, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Fair use on main page

There's been a recent discussion regarding fair use image use on the main page. I did a survey and found that the rate of fair use image use tied to the featured article of the day was ~20% over the last three months (September: 5 of 30, October: 5 of 31, November: 8 of 30). There was some concern in the discussion that this rate had increased from prior months. Your thoughts on this? --Durin 16:14, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

This month was a statistical anomaly. I've been going out of my way to select name-recognizable FAs, and I think that has had something to do with more fair use images appearing than normal. I try to avoid fair use images on the main page where possible, but there are cases where it is unavoidable - virtually all modern culture is copyrighted. Raul654 16:24, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Just had a brainwave!

Hello Raul 654 ,

Once again I'm sorry for the disagreement in June of this year. Concerning Featured Articles, I just had a (good) brainwave. Why don't you have special days (like D-Day Operation Overlord) placed on their own respective days (so Operation Overlord would be on June 6, World War I would be on November 11 and Attack on Pearl Harbor would be on December 7).

What do you think?

Please reply on my talk page,$

Booksworm Sprechen-sie Koala?

Generally, that's not a good idea because it's my preference that the featured article doesn't conflict with the selected anniversaries section of the main page. On the other hand, the solution in those cases is sometimes as simple as pruning the selected anniversaries blurb. Raul654 18:47, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Public Art Registry

I would welcome any comments on the story I wrote for this week's signpost. Sorry for not including a link - I was in the middle of compiling my list of news items for the ITN segment. --Trödel 22:07, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Main Page FA

Hello Raul, I just had a question about an upcoming Main Page FA, specifically the December 2 date. I requested the Battle of Austerlitz for that date (the 201st anniversary) but was somewhat disappointed to see that you had selected another article. I'm not really sure how this works, but I very much hope that you can give Austerlitz another consideration as I believe it to be more qualified than the current selection. I also noticed that the Battle of Midway had been given the December 1 date some time ago (probably why you decided not to go with another military article the next day), but that battle is in June, though I don't mean to suggest that military articles are selected based on anniversaries in any way. I was just hoping you could take one more look at Austerlitz for December 2; I firmly believe it is more appropriate given the circumstances. Thank you very much.UberCryxic 01:12, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Done. Raul654 19:28, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you so much!UberCryxic 00:22, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Checkuser page of Khosrow II

• Hey, I'm waiting about for 2 months for checking user of Khosrow II Can you please take a look? Here the link , Thanks Zaparojdik (talk · contribs) 18:35, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Replied there. Raul654 19:28, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Hey Raul

I can't help noticing your reluctance to include Macedonia (terminology) in WP:TFA. Do you see any flaws? Is there anything I can do to improve the article? NikoSilver 11:33, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Yay! Thanks! I added a more wikified version here. NikoSilver 13:03, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Hello! (Barnstar and an Idea!)

Anyway, I have just realised that you ought to protect the pages found on the Main Page (the featured ones) because they will get vandalised, as they are the first thing anyone will see on Misplaced Pages. (Then again, ALL the pages linked from the main page should be protected from IP editing!)

Hope all is fine and well,

Booksworm Talk to me!

Thanks for the barnstar. As for the idea, it's been beaten to death and then some. Raul654 15:27, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

That's why you should do it. Rlevse 23:05, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

FYI

• Check this out Misplaced Pages:Meetup/Philadelphia_2#Press. --evrik  19:34, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

FA Status

Hi Mark, I'm new to this FA nominations process. I worked a lot on the aldol reaction page. How do I get more people to comment on its suitability for FA, or are there enough comments already? Thanks. Eugene Kwan 20:04, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Question about FA requested for main page

Hey Mark, I'm just writing to satisfy my curiousity about why an article another user and I requested be on the main page a few months ago hasn't been on yet. The article is Kengir uprising (was requested |here). I know the question makes me sound kind of disgruntled or jaded or whatever, but, really, I ask this in total innocence and good faith. I suspect that it isn't suitable for one reason or another and, if that's the case, I'd just like to know for sure so I can stop thinking about it. I've been telling people for months that it's going to appear on the main page soon and everyone thinks I'm a liar! Thanks for you're time. --Clngre 22:33, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

a message from a revert weary user

Mark- (met you briefly at Wikimania and Philly meetup) I’m writing to you because I know you are involved in a lot of behind-the-scenes and policy type discussions. I almost never participate in that type of thing; I just like to work on articles. Anyway, I wanted to express my opinion to someone sensible who also has a voice in ‘the community’.

I’ve been contributing since June 03, and it seems to me that something has changed lately. Recently, every time I look at my watchlist there is nothing but 1000 vandalisms that need to be reverted. It has begun to feel like more of a chore than a hobby.

I think that there are many proposals for policy changes to improve this situation, and I am sure that they have been argued over at length. The only thing I would like to convince you of is that something needs to change. This project only works because enjoy working on Misplaced Pages. I think that most users who stop having fun won’t raise a stink, they’ll just slowly fade away. I don’t want to see that and I hope things can change. ike9898 22:48, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Hello

What do I do if a Arbcom is violating:

• Misplaced Pages:Arbitration_policy#Hearing

The party who is the subject of the Arbcom has not even responded yet, as he is away on business for a week, and has told me that he got an okay from the Arbcom about this. The case was just opened on 23:03, 28 November 2006.

In addition, how do you force an arbcom to recuse themselves if they refuse to recuse themselves?

Thanks a lot. I messaged User:Mindspillage too.

I will watch your page, if you would like to respond here or via my email.

Travb (talk) 03:21, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_arbitration#How_can_I_get_an_Arbcom_to_recuse_himself_if_he_refuses.3F Sorry to waste your valuable time, the question has now been answered. Travb (talk) 06:27, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Orphaned fair use image (Image:Dave Chappelle.jpg)

Thanks for uploading Image:Dave Chappelle.jpg. I notice the 'image' page currently specifies that the image is unlicensed for use on Misplaced Pages and may only be used on Misplaced Pages under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Misplaced Pages. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable under fair use (see our fair use policy).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Misplaced Pages page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any fair use images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Oden 11:14, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

User talk:84.71.120.124

Hey, there. Looking into this user's current unblock request. Was there a reason you gave this one a week-long block after it apparently made only one edit? I don't see any warnings, unless there's some prior incident history, sockpuppetry, deleted edits or anything else I should know about. I'm a bit inclined to AGF and unblock, but if there is anything I'm missing, please do let me know. Luna Santin 20:04, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Oops! I appear to have misread the diff and thought that that edit was a vandalism. Raul654 03:00, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Ann Coulter

Could you please explain your recent reverts here? Coulter wrote one or more columns critical of the U.S. government's response to 9/11. She was particularly hard on Norman Mineta. There is a section in the article on that. Someone renamed the section, to imply that it was about Arabs and Muslims. (They had of course been mentioned in 9/11 columns, but these columns were far from ABOUT them.) Then more Arab/Muslim stuff percolated into the section. (BTW, that stuff has an aroma of malicious editing, since there is a bad match between the what the citations say and what the edits say. I know it's not YOUR stuff, but it IS questionable stuff.) Then the section got cleaned up, with invitations to put Arab/Muslim stuff in its own section. Now you've put the old stuff back in, including the malicious-smelling stuff. IMHO, things are pretty misleading in this section now. Lou Sander 04:51, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

The section is *not* about her 9/11 comments; it's about her numerous racist comments regarding Muslims and Arabs (many, but not all, of which also pertain to 9/11). It was always that way; the name was changed to '9/11 comments' about a month ago, and should not have been.

As to the citations - if there is anything that is not backed up by the citations, feel free to point it out. However, I checked half a dozen quotes in that section, including all the ones I added back, and they all appear verbatim in the citations. Raul654 20:04, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

When one reads the Coulter columns that are cited and discussed in the section, it's pretty clear that they're about airport security, and that they mostly criticize the government. I would certainly disagree with you that the section covering them is about "numerous racist comments," though she often makes silly/stupid/racist comments to illustrate her substantive points.

Regarding the citations in the questionable paragraphs, it would help if you could point out the verbatim words you found about the Jyllands-Posten Muslim cartoons controversy. When I checked them, I didn't find Jyllands in any context that applied to what was said in the paragraph that cited them. Lou Sander 21:03, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

The second half of the quote appears in the cited article - "Ann used the term 'raghead' when describing what our homeland security policies should be: 'I think our motto should be post-9-11, "raghead talks tough, raghead faces consequences."'

As to the first half ("What if they start having one of these bipolar episodes with nuclear weapons?"), I can't verify that she said it in that particular speech, but it has already appeared in her columns, along with a nearly identical second half - "Iran is certainly implying that it has nukes. Maybe they do, maybe they don't, but you can't take chances with berserk psychotics. What if they start having one of these bipolar episodes with a nuclear bomb? If you don't want to get shot by the police, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, then don't point a toy gun at them. Or, as I believe our motto should be after 9/11: Jihad monkey talks tough; jihad monkey takes the consequences. Sorry, I realize that's offensive. How about "camel jockey"? What? Now what'd I say? Boy, you tent merchants sure are touchy. Grow up, would you?" -- Raul654 23:20, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Maybe my question wasn't clear. I'm trying to find if either A) the Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy material is in the citations and I missed it, or B) if it is NOT in the citations and you put it in your edit anyway.

The Jyllands-Posten controversy involves a blasphemy against the Prophet (PBUH), for which the blasphemers and their enablers have famously been condemned to death. I don't believe that Ann Coulter has ever gotten involved in it, and I can't find it mentioned in the citations you use to support your assertion that she has. I DO believe that malicious editors (not necessarily including you) have persistently and wrongly tried to tar Ann Coulter with the blasphemous Jyllands-Posten brush. If they are doing it here, it needs to be dealt with. Lou Sander 04:08, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

You're right, in that those two citations don't appear to relate to that particular controversy; you're wrong in thinking she's never gotten herself involved in it. Just read the first paragraph of the citation I pointed out above - "The amazing part of the great Danish cartoon caper isn't that Muslims immediately engage in acts of mob violence when things don't go their way. That is de rigueur for the Religion of Peace. Their immediate response to all bad news is mass violence." Raul654 04:13, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for finally pointing it out. The citation wasn't in your edit of the article (and still isn't, unless you've added it). When I saw the edit, it sure seemed to be biased or malicious per WP:BLP, and therefore to qualify for immediate, discussion-free deletion.

Now if we can just get past the point where encyclopedia editors think that saying "camel jockey" turns a pithy, notable column into a hateful racist screed. (They don't think that way at Britannica and World Book. Nor do most readers, IMHO.)Lou Sander 05:11, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

"Camel jockey", like "nigger, "spic", "chink", "raghead", and "kyke", are all racist terms. Period. It may not invalidate her point, but just because she has a point it doesn't exhonerate her from making racist comments either. The fact that you're extenuating such a term is frankly apalling. --kizzle 21:07, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Would you support putting the number of FA's on the front page?

Hi there Raul, I know this has come up before but I was wondering what you thought of putting the number of FAs on the front page just after the total article count? I would appreciate it if you could comment on the talk:main page topic entitled: "Number of FAs mentioned as well as total number of articles, please" thanks, Witty lama 04:32, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Replied there. Raul654 22:21, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi Raul, There seems to be support for putting an FA ticker on the Main Page, and even more support for placing it in the FA box. I'm willing to take the plunge. As an initial step, I have created {{FA number}} to see what the suggested wording would look like plugged into {{TFAfooter}}:

Archive – By email – All 6640 featured articles

You are obviously the key person in this and, before I implement it, I wanted to see if you are OK updating {{FA number}}. I would of course protect the template and replace the occurrences of the number at Misplaced Pages:Featured articles, allowing one-stop updating. Thanks, BanyanTree 22:10, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm in favor of the idea, but as I said on talk:main page, I'm not especially keen on adding yet another step to the (already time-consuming) promotion process. Any thoughts on the matter? Raul654 20:45, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

We can modify WP:FA, so you only need to edit {{FA number}}, and don't have to update the number of articles at the top. How does that sound? Titoxd 21:02, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

It's definitely another page to add to the watchlist. However, it doesn't require any more edits than already used. For the counter idea to work without a template would require admins to watch for changes at WP:FA and then directly modify {{TFAfooter}}, but that seems to clearly add to the number of edits required, and duplicates effort. Given the benefit of one-stop updating allowing other users to transclude the number for use in other pages, and finally getting a counter on the Main Page, I would say that using a template would be much more elegant. Cheers, BanyanTree 21:38, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Given what appears to be a clear consensus in the discussion and no firm opposes, I am being bold and implementing Zocky's modification of Witty lama's original proposal. Thanks, BanyanTree 21:26, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

History of Solidarity

I noticed you listed the History of Solidarity second nomination on the featured article page. The nomination title was History of Solidarity second nomination but was for the article History of Solidarity. The History of Solidarity article does not have its featured star on its page, but you did add the featured template to its talk page. Thought you may want to check it out. Mkdw 23:32, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

I saw. Thanks for fixing my mistake. Everything's good now. Raul654 01:25, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Username

Hello! I looked at your "username change log" and i saw you changed some usernames by "usurping" existing accounts. Does this mean it is now official policy? Can i eventually be renamed to User:Canderous, since that account has no edits? I have put a notice on his talk page. — Canderous Ordo 20:49, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

emailed request

I sent a request to you via "e-mail this user" --Rikurzhen 15:10, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Done. Raul654 15:15, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks a bunch. --Rikurzhen 15:21, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Online?

Raul, will you be online for about twenty minutes? I'm looking for a 'crat to help test mediawiki's ability to reattribute edits on deleted pages. Trying to put some doubts to rest at Misplaced Pages talk:Usurpation.--Kchase T 19:13, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

20 minutes? I suppose so. Raul654 19:15, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

OK, it probably won't take that long. The question is whether the software can reattribute edits correctly. So I've got a couple of accounts and a page set up to test just this thing. User:Kchase02v is an old anti-vandal sock that I never use and User:Kchase02test is an account I just set up for this purpose. Could you do the following in order to test this:

1. Delete User:Kchase02v as db-author. The page in question has a single edit from that account that should be appropriatelly reattributed if everything works.
2. Change the username Kchase02v to Kchase02vold
3. Change the username Kchase02test to Kchase02v
4. Restore the page User:Kchase02v

I think that should appropriatelly test the reattribution ability of the software.--Kchase T 19:21, 5 December 2006 (UTC) Another typo. Sorry for refreshing your talk page every two seconds.--Kchase T 19:23, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Done. Raul654 19:24, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Well, looks like the software can't do it after all. Thanks for your help, though, Raul.--Kchase T 19:26, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Debatepedia.com query

Hi, I noticed that you went to the DC Meetup, and that you're a dedicatd Wikipedian. I'm the founder of Debatepedia.com, the new wiki debate encyclopedia, and am working out of DC with a group of Georgetown students and professors. I was hoping to get your suggestions, and maybe meet up in person, if you'd like. Brooks Lindsay 19:35, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

A final block warning you issued recently

Remember Voln? I'd like your input at WP:ANI#Admin_plays_detective...what_next.3F. I've collected evidence that this editor is the Misplaced Pages:Long_term_abuse#Joan_of_Arc_vandal. So far the consensus has been unanimous for a community ban. Durova 22:02, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Replied by email. Raul654 22:10, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Operation Downfall

Hello,

I have a habit of asking stupid questions. Comes from being a PhD student. Moreover, my questions are frequently so stupid that people almost invariably take them as sarcasm, instead of the straightforward requests for information that they actually are.

So if you wanna drop a line on my talk page and explain to me why the prettiness of a page is more important than its verifiability, I would be sincerely grateful. I also promise I won't respond, except perhaps to ask for amplification or clarification.

--Ling.Nut 03:56, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

(Replied on his talk page). Raul654 22:14, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

WP:NOPRO under dispute

After the Down Syndrome article went up, several users are beginning to dispute the viability of NOPRO. As Featured Article Nawab (and originator of the policy), perhaps you could contribute something to the discussion?Borisblue 04:15, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Today's featured article/December 7, 2006

Just a heads up that I recorded a spoken version of the article Extrasolar planet just then, which is the featured article for tomorrow, so you may have to add something to the FA synopsis text. Thanks. enochlau (talk) 14:13, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

No, it's all right - we don't link spoken versions from the main page. Raul654 22:23, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Ah ok, cool, just checking! :) enochlau (talk) 23:27, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Dien Bien Phu

Hey, hope you don't mind me adding some citations and whatnot from the Bernard Fall book. I had to be careful, though, since we both know the book tends to be a little biased towards the French :) — Deckiller 06:03, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes, please do. I also have that book sitting in my lap (I stopped at my Uni's research library the other day and cleaned out the Dien Bien Phu shelf) but any help would be greatly appreciated. Raul654 06:08, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

BOT - Regarding your recent protection of Extrasolar planet:

You recently protected this page but did not give a protection summary. If this is an actual (not deleted) article, talk, or project page, make sure that it is listed on WP:PP. VoABot will automatically list such protected pages only if there is a summary. Do not remove this notice until a day or so, otherwise it may get reposted. Thanks. VoABot 23:03, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

I've fixed it; looks like you removed the edit protection and left the move protection, which made it look like you'd move protected without a summary. I unprotected and reprotected to leave log entries and keep the bot happy. Essjay (Talk) 00:34, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Time-sensitive question

I hope you recognize what this refers to. May I have a speedy reply? Durova 01:58, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

DB-Nonsense Article

Hello Raul I originally reported this to another admin but it seems that they may be away at the moment. The creator of this db nonsense article has created several articles with nonsense content. Could you take a look at them please? Thank you.¤~Persian Poet Gal 03:58, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

All fixed. Raul654 03:59, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Nice work!¤~Persian Poet Gal 04:02, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

FA Nomination Removed by Admin

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Special:Log/delete&page=Misplaced Pages:Featured_article_candidates/Cell_nucleus

Please see the nomination criteria @

Talk:Cell_nucleus

--Judged 10:56, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Harassment and FA hijacking

Dear Raul, sorry to bother you with wiki-politics, but at my RfC I have just been accussed of 1) harrassing you; 2) using WP:FA for propaganda and 3) hijacking WP:FAC voting with canvassing votes from a Polish cabal :> I thought you, as a person I presumably harrassed into having close to 20 FACs approved, may want to take an opportunity to comment there :) -- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  16:10, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

This message is what the RFC is about. Piotrus, please look at your contributions and estimate how much of them are "requests for input", "Ghirlandajo said... so I search for your opinion", "I know that you have had conflicts with Ghirla, so please comment on his latest outburst...", "thanks for reporting on Ghirla's actions", etc, etc. I don't know how others feel in such situations, but I regards such actions as unseemly and incivil. --Ghirla 17:10, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

If you use somebody as an example to back up your 'case', I believe they have the right to know they are being used. Your 'Piotrus harasses Raul' example has already been criticized at the above link by several users; and indeed, your posts lacking any diffs like above to show quite nicely what this RfC is about.-- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  19:47, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

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