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{{User|Kchase02}} – Self-nom. I've been editing in earnest since May of this year. I've started and heavily contributed to about a dozen articles each, most of which are listed on my userpage. I'm fairly involved in ], including a bit of maintenance there. I've participated in hundreds of ] and a few other deletion discussion processes. The vast majority of AfD pages I edit only once, but I also routinely discuss instead of simply voting (]). I've done a lot of newpage patrol, some of the evidence of which has been deleted (naturally enough). I do loads of counter-vandalism, including appropriate warnings, frequent reversions to today's FA, over sixty edits to ], and the occasional . I set up Werdnabot archiving of the six ] subpages after the previous archival bot bit the dust. I do the occasional page split or merge where consensus exists (or the proposal hasn't received comment and seems non-controversial). I routinely answer questions at ] and the ], sometimes ]. Just recently, I split off and heavily edited ]. {{User|Kchase02}} – Self-nom. I've been editing in earnest since May of this year. I've started and heavily contributed to about a dozen articles each, most of which are listed on my userpage. I'm fairly involved in ], including a bit of maintenance there. I've participated in hundreds of ] and a few other deletion discussion processes. The vast majority of AfD pages I edit only once, but I also routinely discuss instead of simply voting (]). I've done a lot of newpage patrol, some of the evidence of which has been deleted (naturally enough). I do loads of counter-vandalism, including appropriate warnings, frequent reversions to today's FA, over sixty edits to ], and the occasional . I set up Werdnabot archiving of the six ] subpages after the previous archival bot bit the dust. I do the occasional page split or merge where consensus exists (or the proposal hasn't received comment and seems non-controversial). I routinely answer questions at ] and the ], sometimes ]. Just recently, I split off and heavily edited ].
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::Regardless of sources, if it's not A7, I would look at the creator's username. Using the company's name for a single-purpose account is often a dead giveaway, but is not solely enough. The real consideration is whether an article is flagrantly POV by using an excessively promotional tone and devoting too much attention to the company's product, successes, etc. Much of this is a judgment call. If I don't intend to fix the POV problems and think the article would be easier to write from scratch than fix, I would tag it G11. ::Regardless of sources, if it's not A7, I would look at the creator's username. Using the company's name for a single-purpose account is often a dead giveaway, but is not solely enough. The real consideration is whether an article is flagrantly POV by using an excessively promotional tone and devoting too much attention to the company's product, successes, etc. Much of this is a judgment call. If I don't intend to fix the POV problems and think the article would be easier to write from scratch than fix, I would tag it G11.

'''Notice''': I will be gone for a few days and probably won't answer other optional questions until I return.--] ] 23:14, 7 December 2006 (UTC)


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Kchase02 (talk · contribs) – Self-nom. I've been editing in earnest since May of this year. I've started and heavily contributed to about a dozen articles each, most of which are listed on my userpage. I'm fairly involved in WikiProject U.S. Supreme Court cases, including a bit of maintenance there. I've participated in hundreds of Articles for deletion discussions and a few other deletion discussion processes. The vast majority of AfD pages I edit only once, but I also routinely discuss instead of simply voting (example). I've done a lot of newpage patrol, some of the evidence of which has been deleted (naturally enough). I do loads of counter-vandalism, including appropriate warnings, frequent reversions to today's FA, over sixty edits to Misplaced Pages:Administrator intervention against vandalism, and the occasional more complex case. I set up Werdnabot archiving of the six Village Pump subpages after the previous archival bot bit the dust. I do the occasional page split or merge where consensus exists (or the proposal hasn't received comment and seems non-controversial). I routinely answer questions at WP:VPA and the help desk, sometimes providing additional assistance at the user's talk page. Just recently, I split off and heavily edited Misplaced Pages:New pages patrol.

I try to be as civil as possible with users, especially newbies who make silly mistakes. When I screw up, I apologize. When I'm treated incivilly, I don't respond in kind. When I'm asked about an action, I explain it. I'm usually pretty careful about not using rollback for non-vandalism edits. I have a sense of humor.

I think I'm rambling, so I'm going to quit.

The common rundown from RfA/Crzrussian/Gwernol/Yanksox

Edit Count? 5422
Time around? First edit in summer, 2005, but eighth edit wasn't until April March, 2006
Edit Summaries? 100%
E-mail enabled? Yes
Mistakes? I'm only human. See Q4.
Userpage? typical list of the things I do here, to-do's, contributions, and a userbox joke at the bottom
Any edit warring/blocks? No. I got autoblocked when my doppelganger was blocked at my request.
FA participation? No.

I welcome your feedback. Kchase T 07:03, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here: self-nom. I accept.--Kchase T 07:18, 7 December 2006 (UTC)


Questions for the candidate

Dear candidate, thank you for offering to serve Misplaced Pages in this capacity. Please take the time to answer a few generic questions to provide guidance for voters:

1. What sysop chores do you anticipate helping with? Please check out Category:Misplaced Pages backlog and Category:Administrative backlog, and read the page about administrators and the administrators' reading list.
A: I thought about self-noming as far back as July, but I finally did it this week because I was handling a lot of blanked pages at Special:Shortpages. I thought it was ridiculous for me to go through the history of a page with two edits, the second of which was blanking by the author, and tag it with {{db-g7}}, only to have an admin do essentially the same work over again. So I'll probably start there. I also do a fair bit of new page patrolling and expect to delete speedy candidates as I see them and will almost certainly attend to CAT:CSD, as well. (I won't be deleting everything. I hope to occasionally do things like this as well.) I've also participated a ton at Articles for Deletion, including some non-admin closures, and expect to extend that to clearing out the backlog of clear deletes. I will leave the more difficult closures to Mailer Diablo, crz, CSCWEM, et al. until I get my sea legs. Finally, I've done a bunch of RC Patrol and will start blocking appropiately warned vandals myself instead of going through WP:AIV. I'll also watchlist AIV and attend to that when I see it.
2. Of your articles or contributions to Misplaced Pages, are there any with which you are particularly pleased, and why?
A: Baton Bob and Marla Olmstead, two that I started from scratch, and an expansion of Physics and Star Wars. Scientific jury selection has been about five months in the making, but my current progress is here. I'm proud of work I've done on U.S. Supreme Court case articles and happy to have nudged the WP:SCOTUS wikiproject out of hibernation (though to be honest, I think Tim4christ17's project template attracted enough users to truly get it going again). I'm proud of helping this newbie learn the ropes. And everything I mentioned in the answer to Q1. Occasionally, I see two editors getting into it or one editor getting stressed, and try to defuse the situation.
3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or do you feel other users have caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?
A: AfD is one of the things that initially fascinated me about wikipedia, and I started out as a rampant deletionist. I brought some stress upon myself with this stupid nomination, but I think I handled it well, withdrawing the silly mass-nom and discussing the issue of notability with reference to guidelines. I've thankfully become more of an inclusionist since and better with mass-noms. I can get argumentative in AfD's sometimes, but not incivil. I got into it with The Crow when I was convinced he was a company's PR stooge (relevant dialogue). When I realized I was wrong, I left him an apologetic message. Now we get along fine (he even borrowed my talk page header). Probably the most stressed I've been was after my addition to the Physics and Star Wars article (referenced in Answer #2). After I spent several hours working on the expansion, another editor took fault with my sources and claimed they were just original research. I actually walked away from the computer for a bit and wrote this response a day later.
Getting crap like this from vandals has never bothered me. My userpage has been vandalized numerous times, as well. A sampling of some slightly stressful interactions with others: a clueless newbie with limited English, a rude section header on my talk page, Mistaken vandalism warning, and someone challenging me for my interpretation of a notability guideline. My interactions with other users have steadily improved as I learn the ropes and become more self-assured.

Optional Question from Kchase I expect this to come up, so I'm going to take the unorthodox step of asking myself an optional question.

4. Kchase, what the heck were you thinking at this AfD?
A: Ouch. That AfD (from June) is probably the biggest mistake I've made on WP. I did three things wrong, here. First, I moved comments from the enormous AfD to the talk page. Second, I sorted the !votes into keep and delete groups. Third, I improperly closed the AfD. In sorting !votes and comments, I was trying to make the page more easily readable, what with the huge number of IPs flooding in. Part of the reason I thought this was acceptable was that !votes are sorted into sections in the same way here at RfA. The closure, perhaps the most ridiculous part of the whole affair, is more understandable in light of my early AfD experience. I'd been involved in some other AfD noms that ended in "keep, withdrawal by nominator" (1, 2, and 3) and even closed one that way myself. For that reason, I thought it was an acceptable closure reason. I wasn't sure, and found out I'd been dead wrong when I bugged Essjay about it. I still appreciate his response. In any case, I screwed up and it may cost me a few supports. All I can do is be honest about my mistake and assure you that it's the dumbest thing I've done here and that it won't happen again.

Optional questions from Malber (talk · contribs)

5. What do the policy of WP:IAR and the essay WP:SNOW mean to you and how would you apply them?
A: IAR is one of Misplaced Pages's earliest policies (actually, for a time, it was not labelled as policy). In a sense, it is a policy that was more appropriate for an earlier time, when there were fewer editors and everyone knew each other. That said, policy can't imagine every situation, and IAR still exists for those situations where policy lags behind the good of the encyclopedia. I've only used it once as an editor, to skirt process and rapidly make a case article WP:SCOTUS's focus when it was linked from the main page . I envision similar practice as an admin: invoking IAR rarely, if at all.
WP:SNOW, an essay (though similarly in flux, as it was labelled a guideline for a time), is used to shut a process when the result is a foregone conclusion. I see it often invoked with newbie RfAs that get a mountain of opposes. Where an editor has under 250 or so edits, I wouldn't hesitate to pull an RfA myself once it has gotten six or eight opposes, leaving a message on the candidate's talk page that they could re-open it if they so desire. That said, I've already accomplished the same end by talking to the candidate first, thereby avoiding invocation of SNOW. Of course, I would leave more serious candidacies to bureaucrats, as I'm aware of the controversy surrounding early closures. In a normal AfD, I see little use for SNOW. If an article is being repeatedly renominated, it may be appropriate to invoke SNOW to close a clear keep. Otherwise, I think process generally ought to run its course. Process is important not for its own sake, but because going through the entire process makes someone on the "losing end" of a decision feel better about the end result, and that their thoughts got a fair hearing.
6. Is there ever a case where a punitive block should be applied?
A: This question has been asked enough times that everyone ought to know WP:BLOCK is quite clear about it in the second line. The short answer is no, never. Blocks are to prevent harm to the encyclopedia and to allow productive editors to work in peace. One of the goals of a non-indefinite block is to prevent the problem behavior after the block expires by forcing the editor into changing their tact or risk getting blocked again. To the blockee, this may feel punitive, but it is not intended that way.
7. What would your thought process be to determine that a business article should be deleted using CSD:G11?
A: G11 is a fairly new CSD that was decided from above instead of gathering consensus here (which is not to say it wouldn't have). Despite my new page patrolling, I don't think I've ever used it (in part because I learned most of the criteria before it was created), so this answer is somewhat hypothetical. I would probably do a quick google search and go to the company's website to try to find any news stories about them. Independent non-trivial coverage is often the quickest way to establish notability of anything. If such sources exist, they also provide the quickest route to rewrite apparent spam to make it NPOV. If there's no sources and no assertion to notability, I usually tag it as A7.
Regardless of sources, if it's not A7, I would look at the creator's username. Using the company's name for a single-purpose account is often a dead giveaway, but is not solely enough. The real consideration is whether an article is flagrantly POV by using an excessively promotional tone and devoting too much attention to the company's product, successes, etc. Much of this is a judgment call. If I don't intend to fix the POV problems and think the article would be easier to write from scratch than fix, I would tag it G11.
General comments

Discussion

Support

  1. Support. Good editor. Contributions and participation are solid, but especially good is the honesty -- it shows the user is and knows they are accountable for actions, an excellent trait to have in an admin. -- Renesis (talk) 08:03, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
  2. Support I think he's learnt from his mistakes and he could use the tools with clearing out CSD/skipping the tagging process. James086 09:26, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
  3. Support. You've made mistakes, which is why you'll understand those who do better. You've been civil and honest with others, and you've helped out pretty much everywhere. My commendations. yandman 10:57, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
  4. Support - He's done many admin related tasks already, participated in hundreds of AfD discussions so knows many of the Misplaced Pages policy and in general an excellent candidate. Has my full support. Jayden54 11:04, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
  5. Support a good, honest candidate --Steve (Slf67) 12:11, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
  6. Support. I seldom participate in RfAs for people I had no experience with, but I'm inclined to make an exception this time. Seems well-rounded, honest and humble enough. Duja► 12:36, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
  7. Strong Support looks really good. Terrific ebayer, A++++, will buy from again. - crz crztalk 13:29, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
    BTW, to anyone who cares, my vote above is quid pro quo for the namedrop in Q1. - crz crztalk 19:37, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
  8. Support. Seen this editor around. Noreservations. Cheers, :) Dlohcierekim 14:32, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
    PS, if you have not done anything dumb since June, You are way ahead of me. Cheers, :) Dlohcierekim 14:35, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
  9. Support I do not see any problems here. A good editor. --Siva1979 14:59, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
  10. Support. I like the honesty of his AfD mistakes, not that it matters so much doesn't it? :) Michaelas10 (Talk) 15:09, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
  11. Support. Willing to admit and learn from mistakes. Nishkid64 15:20, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
  12. Support. Rettetast 16:13, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
  13. Support Good, I am glad that you admitted to a massive cock-up earlier in your editing career. Have you now read the policies and guidelines for editors and admins with a close attention to detail as a result of this? (aeropagitica) 16:19, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
  14. Support Tons of edits, good time experience, and seems completely honest (admits mistakes). Would make a great sysop. -- P.B. Pilhet / Talk 18:10, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
  15. Support Looks good to me, and I appreciate his honesty.-- danntm C
  16. Support. Michael 18:35, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
  17. Strong Support You stole my nomination for you! Yanksox 19:14, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
    Yeah, sorry about that. For anyone who is wondering, Yanksox was going to nom me, but due to our schedules conflicting and a personal situation of mine, I decided to just throw my hat into the ring myself.--Kchase T 19:43, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
    Heh, don't be sorry. I'm glad you're running! :D Yanksox 23:10, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
  18. Strong Support You are willing to learn from your past mistakes and you don't hide them either, you shall be a fine admin. — Seadog 19:23, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
  19. Strong Support TSO1D 20:49, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
  20. Support - I'm glad that you admitted your Afd mistake. Good luck - 0L1 Talk Contribs 21:39 7/12/2006 (UTC)
  21. I'm sick of giving reasons support - you go make my reasons for me :) -- Tawker 22:15, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
  22. Support I'm glad the user admitted his mistake, will make a good administrator. Hello32020 22:32, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
  23. Support good user. Rama's arrow 22:50, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
  24. Support Many, many, edits and lots of experience, would make an excellent admin. –The Great Llama 01:55, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
  25. Support - Excellent editor, can use the tools, fully qualified, no issues. The fact that we edit in at least one common area of interest (although I don't think I've crossed the candidate's path yet) is of course a little extra plus for me. Newyorkbrad 02:02, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
  26. Support Ick, I've made my own AfD boo-boos. If everyone who made mistakes admitted them so readily, it'd be easier to work around here :) riana_dzasta 04:49, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
  27. Support, per all of the above Alex43223 05:20, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
  28. I'm Mailer Diablo and I approve this candidate! - 07:09, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
  29. Support I've seen Kchase02 around and see no reason why this user wouldn't make a good admin. --Aude (talk) 15:31, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
  30. Support. Seems very willing to own up to mistakes, and that's a good quality in an admin. ···日本穣 21:46, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
  31. Support —Quarl 2006-12-09 00:48Z
  32. Support per all above. The Mirror of the Sea 01:28, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
  33. Kusma (討論) 13:59, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
  34. Support Per above-no problems here!--teh tennisman 14:01, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
  35. Support. Has done a lot of great work as an user, and will continue to do so as an admin.--TBCΦtalk? 14:51, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
  36. Support We can all learn from our, and from other's mistakes, and when an editor has done so we should honour that.
  37. Support Although I tend to not think very highly of self noms, you're more than qualified to be an admin. Sharkface217 22:21, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
  38. Support John254 03:05, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Oppose

Neutral

  1. I don't generally hold self-noms to higher standards, but I do when they've committed prior errors (and aren't former admins). I'm glad you recognise your mistake, but am not willing to support at this time. – Chacor 07:30, 7 December 2006 (UTC)