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Userspace pages can now be prodded

That way, you don't have to go to MfD any more to get rid of those myspace pages. MER-C 14:02, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Rehorst vodka

I'm surprised that you think the Rehorst Vodka page I just created is blatant advertizing because, well, it's not. I have nothing to do with the company, I just live in Milwaukee and work at a liquor store, whereby the vodka came to my attention. I don't see how the page I created differs significantly from, say, the Tito's Vodka page. Battlekow 00:36, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

I don't claim you approve of the Tito's Vodka article, but someone obviously does, since it's still here. You think something is worthy of a Misplaced Pages article only if it's won an award? Seeing as the company has been around since (I think) October, that's hardly a fair standard. Again, I don't think I included anything excessively praising, or indeed anything praising at all, so it's hard for me to see how you'd construe it as advertizing. I suspect it's the clause about the founder enjoying his vodka in a dry martini that you're objecting to; if so, I wish you'd come out and say it. Battlekow 00:36, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure why you're being so hostile. I hardly think the article I've authored qualifies as publicity, given that it provides only information and no non-expert opinions. Also, my asking about your standards (such as they are) for what is and isn't deserving of a Misplaced Pages entry contradicts my comparison of the content in the Rehorst and Tito's articles? Okay, sure--logic apparently isn't your strong suit. Try something different.

You're misinterpreting my citation of the Tito's article. I wasn't using the existence of Tito's--an American vodka--to suggest that Rehorst--another American vodka--merits inclusion. I was comparing the relative informational content of the two articles, which I think are similar. Again, Rehorst has only been around for two months and as such it is nearly impossible to have earned any awards (or, in your mind, validation). The simple fact that a premium vodka is being produced in a city famous for its beer production seemed notable enough to me to warrant an article.

Dude, what is your problem?

That is such a non-sequitor it's hard to figure out how to respond to it. "The simple fact that a premium bratwurst is being produced in a city famous for its cheese production seemed notable enough to me to warrant an article." "The simple fact that a premium herbal tea is being produced in a city famous for its pharmaceutical production seemed notable enough to me to warrant an article." Something like that.

No. The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel article linked provides support for my linking of the two industries (craft distilling and craft brewing). FYI, it's "non sequitur"; correct spelling will certainly contribute to the air of imperiousness you're trying so hard to cultivate. I'm done talking to you.

User:Strawberry Prince

Actually, I don't think you can Prod a user page (even though I prod2'ed it). May need to get an admin involved, or just Be Bold and blank it, and post a link to WP:USER on the user's page. Fan-1967 04:42, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Didn't realize that was allowed now. Certainly appropriate, though I guess if the user takes the tag off we have to go to MFD just like with articles. Fan-1967 05:12, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Images on mouldy prodded userpages

When prodding user pages, if you come across any images, please also tag the images for deletion. This can be done by replacing an obviously false licence with {{subst:nld}} or sending it to WP:IFD. Thanks. MER-C 06:47, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

If you tag them, the delay on {{subst:nld}} is at least 7 days (depending on what the admins are doing) and on IFD it's meant to be 5 but it is currently backlogged to 14. You don't have to worry about the images disappearing before the pages, it's always the other way around. MER-C 07:03, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

I prefer the "not used on any articles" instead. The other concerns - unencyclopedic, Misplaced Pages is not a free web host and absentee uploader - should be enough for deletion anyway. Though I'm not really that experienced with IFD because I hang out on AFD and MFD. MER-C 07:13, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

User:Stevejackswan

David Moody is a genuine author and i can see no reason why this page should not remain.

User:Stevejackswan

Didn't realise that the books he's released were "paid for". The first time i heard of him (and the fact that The Men They Couldn't Hang were included as characters in his latest book) was when I received an e-mail from Swill (singer from The Men They Couldn't Hang) telling me about the book. I therefore felt that the information of the band being in the book would be of interest. I accept your decision and thank you for the correspondence. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Stevejackswan (talk • contribs) 15:44, 5 December 2006 (UTC).

Hey I have an excellent idea. Why not just keep the navigation box never delete this it is brilliant but for the countries that have a great number of films and that already have agreat number of articles on wikipedia redirect to category. E.g List of American films there is no point in creating a new list when catwegory has listed most of them automativally anyway. I suggest placing the navigatin box in the categories of country films. However for the countries that as yet do not have entries aor many films yet on wikipedia I suggest kepping these lists. Then once the films develop and a fuller list is created then redirect to categories. Look beleive it or not I would rather not have to create lists unneccesaarily I have redircted both American and British films but i really do think the serve as a start for foreign films which are not on wikipedia. Even for Finnish films once the articles develop and becomes fuller then delete the lists and redirect to categories. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 09:56, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

And also I don't chiefly use imdb as a source. I use the British film institute too.

Notability tags

Seems that there is an annoying effort to tag corporate articles this way now. Someone tagged Hughes Helicopters in the same manner. The misguided person apparently has never heard of Howard Hughes or the AH-64 Apache. This is getting old, fast. —Joseph/N328KF (Talk) 12:34, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

It is not the {{references}} tag that bothers me. It's the {{notability}} tag that does. People seem to slap this onto any article that is on a subject outside of their own little world. —Joseph/N328KF (Talk) 14:48, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Your wish to be unblocked has been granted for the following reason(s): Autoblock of 211.115.107.148 lifted with sparkles. Bishonen | talk 01:00, 8 December 2006 (UTC). Request handled by: Bishonen | talk 01:00, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thank you for removing that vandalism from my talk page. I appreciate it. Nihiltres 02:01, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

charlies sandwich shoppe

The fact that this restaurant was one of the only, if not the only, restuarant to serve black musicians during the period of segragation makes in noteworthy, IMHO. Keep. Postcard Cathy 18:34, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

PS I am taking off the reference tag. There are basically two sentences and both are referenced. I don't know how many more references you want!

Cheese Board Collective

Reading Comprehension time again. It includes a pizzeria. According to every US Dept. of Health branch I know of, that constitutes a restaurant. Postcard Cathy 06:20, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Victor Heck

I am attempting to fix the information in accordance with your suggestions. Regarding your 'self-published' thread; I owned DarkTales Publications which has been out of business since 2002. DarkTales published the first and second Asylum editions I was editor for, and also published the first edition of my novel...but that original edition of my first novel has been out of print for almost five years now, then the book was re-released by Prime Books in 2003, then was put into a third edition by another publisher still in 2006. I do not own Prime Books/House of Dominion, Midnight Library, and Chanting Monks Press(s).

May I please ask that you provide me aid in the form of sources you would accept in lieu of Amazon links to prove publication imprint authenticity, and I will happily provide them. Any help from you in this regard will be greatly appreciated. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ungoliant13 (talk • contribs) 03:30, 10 December 2006 (UTC).

Sorry, I didn't know about the proper use of signature etiquette. I will be sure to sign entries in the future. I'm learning. Ungoliant13 18:45, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Hello Calton, per your comment on the page regarding tags remaining until addressed, if I may, I offer you the following information in hopes of addressing the notability issue so that the tag may be considered for removal:

The notability guidelines page offers two criteria for which Victor Heck qualifies under the biography rules/restrictions:

"The person has been the primary subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the person. This criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, magazine articles, books, scholarly papers, and television documentaries." - and - "Published authors, editors and photographers who received multiple independent reviews of, or awards for, their work."

Victor Heck's work(s), both pseudonymously and under his real name David Nordhaus, have been reviewed in at least 50 independent horror genre venues, and were the primary subject of horror-specific genre market papers and magazine articles, including but not limited to the October 2001 GC Magazine 'Books and Authors' article "The Double Life" by Michael Watt, Wicked Magazine #3 article "Writers To Watch", Cemetery Dance #36 article "Spotlight on Publishing: DarkTales" by Robert Morrish, Year's Best Fantasy and Horror 13th edition review by Ellen Datlow, Haunted Computer article "DarkTales: An Interview With David Nordhaus/Victor Heck" by Scott Nicholson, SFSite.com's review by Lisa DuMond, TopSite Reviews by D. Naibert, The Chiaroscuro review by William Gagliani, The Creature Corner by Johnny Butane, MEreviews by Lisa DuMond, Masters of Terror Online review by Paul Legerski, Ciao! UK review by Richard Wright, two separate Fangoria Magazine reviews by Michael Rowe and Thomas Deja, Cemetery Dance Magazine review by Wayne Edwards, Rue Morgue Magazine's review by Mary Beth Hollyer, Booklover's Magazine by William Gagliani, Midwest Book Reviews by Leann Arndt, Dark Realms Magazine's review by Jalone Haessig, Locus Magazine, Science Fiction Chronicle, FeoAmante.com, Cinescape.com, Hellnotes review by Garrett Peck, Gorezone, and HorrorWatch. Victor Heck's works have also been referenced in The Year's Best Fantasy and Horror Vol 16, and The Mammoth Book of New Horror Vol(s) 13 and 15.

In addition, a search for the name "Victor Heck" on search engines produces a large number of distinguishable hits. Thank you for your consideration. Ungoliant13 20:46, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Jack Sarfatti

Hi, when you amend Sarfatti's remarks to redact your name, can you be careful that it doesn't look like a signature? You made this edit before I looked at my talk page, so it looked like Sarfatti was forging your signature on the message.

I had to go back and change the block reason after I noticed your edit. Cheers, TenOfAllTrades(talk) 14:13, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

FAIL

User:Calton/Userfied pages to watch - you have two section breaks numbered 18. That said, I will concede that in all likelihood, nobody else cares about that fact. :o)

If ever a co-ordinated deletion campaign was warranted, expunging shameless promotion would be it. Kudos, Chris cheese whine 02:46, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Smithsonian Folkways

From the message you left on my talk page: "PLEASE check variant names and spellings (including capitalization) before creating new articles." Given that I did not start any of these articles, I feel a bit inclined to reply "PLEASE check article histories before lecturing the wrong person." Yes, I have contributed to two of these articles. I presumed that distinguishing Smithsonian Folkways from Asch's original Folkways was the usual Wikipedian hairsplitting run amok. I myself am more of a "lumper", but I rarely win, so I've more or less stopped arguing about it. I presume that you are not telling me to check variant names and spellings before each time I edit an article.

I completely support merging at either of the two well-formed titles, and have no preference between them. The recent addition today was presumably newbie error. - Jmabel | Talk 03:56, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

I promise the following question is not intended in a hostile manner: if you weren't intending to single me out, couldn't you have made your remarks on the article talk page? Presumably everyone actively involved in an article has it watchlisted. - Jmabel | Talk 05:16, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

There are THREE different talk pages now: which is the one that you are suggesting everyone interested has watchlisted? One message to everyone, pointing to one talk page, targeted to those who've shown an interest: this is a problem? --Calton | Talk 05:21, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

All three, pointing to one place for the discussion. I presume there are more than three editors involved, so it would actually have been fewer messages. Also, it would have reached any "lurkers". Again, I say this as a suggestion for the future, not to chew you out. - Jmabel | Talk 05:26, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Musings over warnings

Before popupping a day old edit to my userpage and leaving a {{blatantvandal}} tag on the talk page of a contributor with over a hundred good-faith edits, you might want to check to see if there's a reason for the "vandalism". I allow others to edit my userpage at their leisure, provided I don't revert them myself. Although I normally prefer people to keep their jokes in the commented out section, the false category and ASCII picture were funny enough that I kept them there. Thanks for looking out for my userpage and all, but tone it down, especially with the vandalism-only account warning. Milto LOL pia 05:10, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice!

Duly noted. Thanks for the warning!-K37 06:33, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

PROD on User:Sean Canavi

Doug is probably assuming Sean Canavi is 87.127.74.230. --Elaragirl 14:28, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

I wasn't disagreeing with you, just stating what Doug probably meant. --Elaragirl 00:25, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

I'll note you still remind me of a BOFH. --Elaragirl 01:47, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

sweetly That's because I'm the only person more sharp and uncivil than you. I'll irritate you later, Calton. I have to space our little talks out. --Elaragirl 02:00, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Tesco extra

Concerning your edit to - Tesco Extra, Banbury. In normal circumstances i would completely agree with you, BUT as this store is the second largest in the United Kingdom I believed it merited a page!

The Georgia Fruitcake Company

Calton,

I saw where you added the tags concerning notability and advertisement on the GFC article. I completely agree, it did sound like an advertisement. I tried to edit it and put in a couple extra external links for notability purposes. If you would, would you please check out the article and let me know what you think? Thanks for checking it out in the first place and thanks in advance for looking at it, if you do. If so, please leave a message on my talkpage. Reb 16:12, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Jack M. Silverstein

Since you prodded it previously, I thought you might like to know that Jack M. Silverstein is at AFD. Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Jack M. Silverstein. NickelShoe (Talk) 20:13, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Starwood Request for comment

As someone who has commented or worked on articles affected by this, you may be interested to know that there is a Request for Comment on Starwood links and a Starwood_Festival/mediation page. --Pigman (talk • contribs) 02:46, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Prod on userpages

Please don't add prod tags to userpages. It's against PROD policy. Please take objectionable userpages to MfD or tag them for G11. - crz crztalk 06:20, 17 December 2006 (UTC)