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| Hi, I reverted you . The discussion you cite had the opposite consensus than what you’re claiming in my reading. Given, I opposed the idea, but still the consensus seems fairly clear to me. ] applies here, and we shouldn’t be editing other people’s comments, especially when the idea has already been proposed and essentially rejected by the community. ] (]) 22:27, 21 March 2020 (UTC) | Hi, I reverted you . The discussion you cite had the opposite consensus than what you’re claiming in my reading. Given, I opposed the idea, but still the consensus seems fairly clear to me. ] applies here, and we shouldn’t be editing other people’s comments, especially when the idea has already been proposed and essentially rejected by the community. ] (]) 22:27, 21 March 2020 (UTC) | ||
| :{{reply|TonyBallioni}} I read the consensus there that yes headings should be neutralized but they should not be standardized. While keeping in mind that you can have neutral and descriptive headings. Which is covered by ]. We have also regularly changed headings with "this fucking guy" kind of stuff, this is no different. That kind of stuff was brough up by {{u|Bus stop}}, {{u|Levivich}}, {{u|Phil Bridger}}, the IP editor, {{u|Amaury}}, {{u|Wugapodes}}, and {{u|SharabSalam}}. I suspect the consensus you are seeing is against standard headings vs against civil headings. Please self revert. ] (]) 22:37, 21 March 2020 (UTC) | :{{reply|TonyBallioni}} I read the consensus there that yes headings should be neutralized but they should not be standardized. While keeping in mind that you can have neutral and descriptive headings. Which is covered by ]. We have also regularly changed headings with "this fucking guy" kind of stuff, this is no different. That kind of stuff was brough up by {{u|Bus stop}}, {{u|Levivich}}, {{u|Phil Bridger}}, the IP editor, {{u|Amaury}}, {{u|Wugapodes}}, and {{u|SharabSalam}}. I suspect the consensus you are seeing is against standard headings vs against civil headings. Please self revert. ] (]) 22:37, 21 March 2020 (UTC) | ||
| ::No. The consensus was clear and a side discussion about neutrality after people had already commented rejecting the idea does not amount to consensus to implement the idea already rejected. If you look at what you were restoring, it was the exact header format the community had already explicitly rejected. TALKNEW has also never been enforced in such a way at ANI, and I can think it circumstances where non-neutral headings are actually ''desirable''. There was nothing vastly inappropriate about that header and it didn’t need to be changed against consensus. ] (]) 22:43, 21 March 2020 (UTC) | |||
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Hi, I reverted you here. The discussion you cite had the opposite consensus than what you’re claiming in my reading. Given, I opposed the idea, but still the consensus seems fairly clear to me. WP:TPO applies here, and we shouldn’t be editing other people’s comments, especially when the idea has already been proposed and essentially rejected by the community. TonyBallioni (talk) 22:27, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
- @TonyBallioni: I read the consensus there that yes headings should be neutralized but they should not be standardized. While keeping in mind that you can have neutral and descriptive headings. Which is covered by WP:TALKNEW. We have also regularly changed headings with "this fucking guy" kind of stuff, this is no different. That kind of stuff was brough up by Bus stop, Levivich, Phil Bridger, the IP editor, Amaury, Wugapodes, and SharabSalam. I suspect the consensus you are seeing is against standard headings vs against civil headings. Please self revert. PackMecEng (talk) 22:37, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
- No. The consensus was clear and a side discussion about neutrality after people had already commented rejecting the idea does not amount to consensus to implement the idea already rejected. If you look at what you were restoring, it was the exact header format the community had already explicitly rejected. TALKNEW has also never been enforced in such a way at ANI, and I can think it circumstances where non-neutral headings are actually desirable. There was nothing vastly inappropriate about that header and it didn’t need to be changed against consensus. TonyBallioni (talk) 22:43, 21 March 2020 (UTC)