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	**That just introduces the problem of defining "city" as there are many different definitions in use around the world. In any case, the point of the "global city" concept is that there is a lot more to measuring a city's influence than raw population. ] 17:58, 24 December 2006 (UTC)		**That just introduces the problem of defining "city" as there are many different definitions in use around the world. In any case, the point of the "global city" concept is that there is a lot more to measuring a city's influence than raw population. ] 17:58, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
	*'''Speedy delete''' as multiple recreation. ] 17:59, 24 December 2006 (UTC)		*'''Speedy delete''' as multiple recreation. ] 17:59, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
			*'''Delete'''. The whole concept is questionable and thus not fit for a category. ] 17:44, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

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Category:Brazilian cities

Category:Brazilian cities into Category:Cities in Brazil

Merge, misguided naming. Circeus 22:24, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Category:Commands of the United States Air Force

Category:Commands of the United States Air Force to Category:Major commands of the United States Air Force

Rename, disambiguation AND follow naming conventions of other AF units. NDCompuGeek 18:18, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Category:Long words

fails WP:OC.--WikiPonny 17:31, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Comment please tag the category using {{subst:Cfd}} if you are serious about this nomination. Tim! 09:35, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
- Done. Dr. Submillimeter 12:43, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
Delete - Dr. Submillimeter 12:43, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Category:Gaijin tarento

Delete, Japanese-POV category. TxPv 16:45, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Keep what's japanese-POV in a japanese pop culture category? Circeus 02:39, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Category:Religious leaders by country

Merge into Category:Religious leaders by nationality, landforms are by country, people are by nationality. -- ProveIt 13:48, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Merge per nom Dugwiki 16:18, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Category:Misplaced Pages sockpuppets of Kuntan

List appears to have been compiled by an administrator who hasn't verified this information with CheckUser. —Malber (talk • contribs) 13:23, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Keep. This nomination by Malber is borderline bad-faith. He hasn't made any attempt to talk to Sir Nick or to investigate the matter. Kuntan has a long history of disruption. This can be vouched for by other administrators like Deepujoseph. I would suggest a speedy keep and a warning to Malber to not engage in such activities again. - Aksi_great (talk) 19:02, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Has a CheckUser been performed? A category like this shouldn't be created until the information is confirmed. —Malber (talk • contribs) 19:54, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Sockpuppets need not be confirmed solely via Checkuser (If it was, why would we have Misplaced Pages:Suspected sock puppets?), most actually aren't. And "Suspected Misplaced Pages sockpuppets" are by definition not confirmed, but have very strong suspicion against themselves. Circeus 02:43, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Malber, Malber, Malber. I feel that many of the checkusers seem to trust me. Is this nomination made in good faith? Or is this just plain disruption? Regards, — Nearly Headless Nick 08:39, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

And, yes, many (perhaps all) of these were confirmed by me using CheckUser. I have no idea what this nomination is about. Dmcdevit·t 10:45, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Many? Perhaps all? If this and the evidence is posted on the category pages, I'll gladly retract this CfD. —Malber (talk • contribs) 04:38, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Strong Keep - I'm smelling something, the odor of WP:POINT . Baka man 20:29, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Agreed, perhaps I may even say this should be a speedy keep. - Mailer Diablo 13:34, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

I am Dakshayanai again. Came back to tell this to people who believe wikipedia is a wonderful place. I know that Dmcdevit is lying; in my own case atleast. I was blocked as a sockpuppet of Kuntan. There was no checkuser evidence against me. There was no history of abuse, trolling or being part of meatpuppetry in any consensus building process. I was blocked just because an administrator, and only one administrator, suspected that I am a sock puppet of a blocked user. This administrator,later almost admittedthat he was wrong. Still he has not even responded to my request to unblock, but only protected my talk page to hide criticism. Criticising an administrator is immediately branded as trolling or disruption and such postings are deleted. I have owned up all the socks that I used (the only option left for me) to highlight this and now they are also branded as socks of kuntan while there is no evidence to prove I am a sockpuppet of kuntan. Dmcdevit is part of this conspiracy and his response "many (perhaps all)" reveals this. You cannot prove he is lying because he has not revealed any checkuser results. Misplaced Pages privacy policy allows checkuser, but this checkuser is abusing it by not being transparent. Nearly Headless Nick is trying to portray himself as a brave warrior engaged in the war on terror ( and so he can brand everyone criticizing him as a sock puppet of kuntan) and seeing his joy in being attacked by vandals, and also posting like thisI will not be surprised to know that he was being helped by some users just to thwart this AFD and discredit ( without any evidence) all who oppose him. I had criticized Dmcdevit earlier ,,for this abuse. In that case it later turned out that he was wrong and one genuine user, whom he branded as "same", after fishing an AFD, was later unblocked. I now know why I was target of this Kuntan hunting.Daakshayani 10:49, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Category:13th century in the United Kingdom

The following discussion is an archived debate regarding the category or categories above. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was speedy delete per creator request. ×Meegs 06:31, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Delete Created in error - there was no UK in the 13th century. BlackJack | 11:27, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
Delete Mistake. Felix Han 17:30, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:14th century in the United Kingdom

The result of the debate was speedy delete per creator request. ×Meegs 06:32, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Delete Created in error - there was no UK in the 14th century. BlackJack | 11:27, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
Delete Mistake. Felix Han 17:30, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Category:Global cities

Delete, as PoV and encouraging promotion. "Global city" suggests a theory (and thus PoV) at best, mere hype at worst. The article on global city starts off with impenetrable jargon and goes on to say that It has been argued that global cities are those sharing the following characteristics (emphasis added); no source for this argument is given. There's a scorechart below for putative global cities, but this is one group's opinion (and it seems to be completely preoccupied by corporate globalism). This is followed by various other tables, all of which present opinions rather than a consensus. I see no clear understanding of the term, and no reason for this category (which I think will be inflated by civic boosterism). -- Hoary 08:44, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Comment - While there is a list at Global city, I don't necessarily think that that means that a category shouldn't exist in this case. Interested in further discussion. - jc37 09:45, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
Delete, use a list instead. >Radiant< 14:18, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
Delete latest incarnation; see related discussion at CfD 2006/10/16, CfD 2006/Jun/21, CfD 2006/Jun/22, CfD 2006/Jul/31 a, CFD 2006/Jul/31 b, CFD 2006/Aug/17, and related TFD 2006/Jul/31 and TFD 2006/Aug/19, and going all the way back to 2004 deletion discussion. -choster 16:09, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
Delete per all previous discussions and mark as a deleted category. Osomec 17:33, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
Keep. Cities that have a major influence on the rest of the world should be recognized with this category. In the opening paragraphs of articles such as New York City, London, Paris, Tokyo and Toronto, it even states their importance as a global city. Blackjays 09:30, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
- Ah yes. I don't doubt that Toronto is a cultured and important city, but I can't immediately see how it has any effect on, say, me. So I go to Toronto and read in the second paragraph, As Canada's economic hub and a major global city blah blah blah. Not just any old global city, mind you, but a major global city, which come to think of it is just the kind of inflation that I'd expect use of this category to encourage. Perhaps "global" (or even "major global") is explained somewhere below in the article? Er, no, it isn't: "global" appears in two places: there and in the name of the category whose deletion I've proposed. -- Hoary 15:19, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
Delete and salt unless some non-POV standard can be set (i.e. "Cities with more than 1 million people," etc.) SnowFire 04:08, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
- That just introduces the problem of defining "city" as there are many different definitions in use around the world. In any case, the point of the "global city" concept is that there is a lot more to measuring a city's influence than raw population. Sumahoy 17:58, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
Speedy delete as multiple recreation. Sumahoy 17:59, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
Delete. The whole concept is questionable and thus not fit for a category. Pavel Vozenilek 17:44, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Category:Indian-New Zealanders, Category:Samoan-New Zealanders, Category:Welsh-New Zealanders

Duplicates of better-named Category:Indian New Zealanders, Category:Samoan New Zealanders, and Category: Welsh New Zealanders respectively. - merge/delete. Note too that several of the other subcategories of Category:New Zealand people by ethnic or national origin incorrectly use a hyphen and should be renamed (I haven't officially nominated them here, or templated them for renaming, but if anyone feels like it...). Grutness...wha? 08:16, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Delete per nom. Hyphen's should not be used.Baka man 19:12, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Category:United Methodist bishops by Episcopal Area

Container category for a group of sub-categories which have already been agreed for deletion at CFD (see CFD Dec 12, (UM Bishops by US State). Note that there already exists a Category:United Methodist bishops by Jurisdiction, which (when populated) will divide UM bishops into five groups reflecting the organisational structure of the United Methodist Church: according to Category:United Methodist bishops by Jurisdiction, each "jurisdiction" contains a number of episcopal areas. BrownHairedGirl 07:45, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Delete, clarifying intention as nominator. --BrownHairedGirl 07:46, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
Keep In fact, this category organized these Bishops differently than Category:United Methodist bishops by Jurisdiction does. Episcopal Areas exist throughout the World. There are only five U.M.C. Jurisdictions in the World, ALL of them in the U.S.A. So that will be inadequate. The subcats already agreed for deletion were only those which further categorized Bishops by U.S. State. Not all Area categories were nominated or agreed for deletion, because not all of them could be subcatergorized by U.S. State. While I can understand deleting the State categories, these Area categories are an essential and official part of the organization of the U.M. Church throughout the World, and should preperly be kept (just like Catholic or Anglican dioceses categories). The Jurisdictional categories themselves will be pointless without the Area ones. Thank you! Pastorwayne 18:59, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
Delete - Previous CFD arguments have clearly stated that organization of bishops by episcopal area is not practical. The parent category is also not needed. Dr. Submillimeter 13:56, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
Delete per BrownHairedGirl and Dr. Submillimeter. — coelacan talk — 20:53, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
Delete, the current orginazation is unworkable. -- ProveIt 14:15, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

American football logos

Please expand the abbreviations per WP:NCCAT#General naming conventions. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 07:40, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

LGBT categories

rename as Category:LGBT and Category:Christian people.--Tsdo 06:48, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Comment - Has LGBT gained the same consensual usage in category naming comvention as US, UK, or NATO has? Essentially, if the answer is yes, then the first three could be speedied. If the answer is no, then this nomination should be opposed. - jc37 09:45, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
- To the best of my knowledge, it does on Misplaced Pages but does not just about anywhere else. >Radiant< 14:19, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
Rename, the article in question is at LGBT. Timrollpickering 14:02, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
Rename LGBT is standard form in equalities work in the UK (personal experience speaking here - aware of limitation in Misplaced Pages terms of personal exp.). DuncanHill 23:29, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
Comment, it should be "by nationality".~Zythe 02:54, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
Rename all per nom. Otto4711 04:47, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
Rename the occupation one, and the nationality one with "by"; no opinion on "LGBT people"; weak oppose the Christians one (unless this is the result of a discussion somewhere and all the Christians subcategories are being changed). LGBT is standard in the US, not sure about Misplaced Pages policy. --Alynna 06:07, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
Rename all, though "by nationality". FYI, GLBT is used often in the US, but WikiProject LGBT studies has pretty much adopted LGBT. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 06:41, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Category:Batman love interests

Delete. Redundant with Category:Batman supporting characters. -Sean Curtin 05:57, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Delete - listify if wanted. An idle thought: I wonder if a single issue "love interest" would qualify as a "supporting character"? - jc37 09:45, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
Delete ludicrous. DuncanHill 23:30, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
Delete List material, at best. — J Greb 03:23, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
Delete. No Robin? :o~Zythe 14:25, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
Keep Narrows the list down, plus the article where it was listified got deleted. Jedd the Jedi 10:36, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Category:Music videos containing movie scenes

Delete. Not very useful as a category, since categorization provides no context (there are many music videos containing film scenes due to being in the soundtrack, but others use them for artistic purposes); also, many song articles fail to directly deal with the music video. Ideally I'd say listify, except there's hardly anything to work with. Unint 05:19, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Delete - While I think I understand the intention, I have to agree with the nominator that the inclusionary criteria is too vague in this case, and could use the descriptiveness of a list, explaining each video and the "movie scenes" therein. - jc37 09:45, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Category:Baghdadis

Category:Baghdadis to Category:People from Baghdad

Rename, to fit with the other categories about where people are from. For example, Category:People from Boston is the correct category; Category:Bostonians points there with a {{Category redirect}}. Picaroon 00:40, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
Rename per nom. Timrollpickering 00:45, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
Rename per nom. Never heard the term "Baghdadis" - looks awkward. But even if extant, rename per normal style. Herostratus 05:18, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
Yes, it is a legitimate demonym. It's just not proper for a category name. Picaroon 22:46, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
Rename - Category:People from Kolkatta, etc.Baka man 20:31, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
I believe you mean Category:People from Kolkata. Picaroon 20:35, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Category:Magnet schools in Ottawa

Delete - unknown what +cat means - only one school in +cat - Category:Schools in Ottawa already has several school +cats, no more are required. Headphonos 05:19, 22 December 2006 (UTC)