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Dahlias in Walsdorf
Geh aus, mein Herz, und suche Freud

in memoriam

Jerome Kohl Herbert Leuninger Anna Blume · notice Käthe · Ute Thou knowest, Lord, the secrets of our hearts Tod, wo ist dein Stachel?

6 September 2020

St. Martin, Idstein
Trumpet Concerto 12 September Zu dir, o Herr, erheben wir die Seele Gott, der du warst und bist und bleibst Lamm Gottes, für uns gegeben · Singt dem Herrn ein neues Lied Solang es Menschen gibt auf Erden

Vespro della Beata Vergine

Magnificat from a partbook of Monteverdi's Vespro della Beata Vergine kept in the Vatican Library 1 September 2020

2020 · illumination, enlightenment and vision

A barnstar for you! - thanks in 2019, visions in 2020

	The Special Barnstar
	Happy New Year, Gerda Arendt! You are receiving this barnstar because, according to this Misplaced Pages database query, you were the #3 most thanked Wikipedian of 2019, with 1418 entries in Special:Log/thanks during 2019. Congratulations, and, well, thank you for your contributions! Cheers to 2020. Mz7 (talk) 01:12, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, Mz7, that's nice, just a statistical number, but nice, especially concluding 2019, a year I designated to be the year of thanks. I thank those who thanked me, - it always feels good to receive this little token of one's work being noticed and even liked. I'll transfer the barnstar to project WP:QAI for which I work. We had three topics in 2019 which are ongoing, and you can help (you all, I mean, member or not) to work on them:

• Improve Psalms articles which come from stub (Psalm 56) to GA (Psalm 84). Thanks to Yoninah, JohnThorne and many more!
• Expand and source translations by LouisAlain who is probably my most prolific "thanks-giver".
• Polish articles of people who recently died, with the goal to have them appear in the Recent deaths section whare - sadly - Peter Schreier and Harry Kupfer are as I write this. Thanks to Coffeeandcrumbs, Martinevans123, Grimes2 and many more.

What really counts for me are written thanks is prose such as those from Voceditenore and Coffee.

Let's make 2020 a year of vision, together! Article for today Psalm 103. Happy editing in 2020! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:18, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

Awesome! Another interesting statistical number: according to a different database query, you were also last year's most thankful Wikipedian, with 4246 uses of the thank tool in 2019. If you meant for 2019 to be your year of thanks, you certainly achieved it. Mz7 (talk) 01:43, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

You read my mind that I was more interested in giving than receiving ;) - Of course it's also just a number, - I regard the clicks as a lazy expression of thanks, and count more what I do in thanking users in prose.

I hope that visions for 2020 will be as successful as the thanks in 2019:

... that missed friends return (... banned, blocked for no good reason, just given up ...)

... that edit-warring is replaced by discussion - I am on voluntary 1RR

... that people realise when they dominate a discussion too much - I try to stick to 2 comments

... that infoboxes added in good faith (now or in the past) are not regarded as vandalism

... that we'll live up to the legacy of Brian Boulton, in article creation (Percy Grainger and Lost operas by Claudio Monteverdi coming to mind), reviewing the work of others, willingness to seek compromise, and respectful attitude

... or in summary: that good faith and IAR are applied more generally, - just look at Ray's Rules and "go on with life, have a laugh, don't get too upset over this".

I may add to this list later - this is just a spontaneous wishlist. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:06, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

ps: The (missed) Rambling Man is with us again! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:16, 10 January 2020 (UTC) and the (missed) Begoon at least edited his user page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:35, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

Kirsten Flagstad - Liebestod - 1936 Covent Garden

Please let me offer my best wishes to you for the year 2020. May all your whishes and aspirations be fulfilled and many thanks for being so patient with heavy cases such as me. In other terms, thanks for being here, so helpful and ready to spare you time to help other users. On my part, I'll try to advance from inept to less inept. Respectfully yours, LouisAlain (talk) 08:56, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

love-ly, thank you! - just began "your radiance consumes all darkness" on my grandparents' wedding anniversary, composed for 2 January 1735, - and more articles about light to come ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:12, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

As Wayne Newton said, "Danke Schoen". SchreiberBike | ⌨  21:35, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Ave Maria (Biebl)

On 1 January 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ave Maria (Biebl), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Ave Maria, an obscure piece for two men's choirs by Franz Biebl, became a choral standard after Chanticleer made it part of their holiday programs? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ave Maria (Biebl). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Ave Maria (Biebl)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 12:01, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

222,222

Congratulations! Jmar67 (talk) 01:31, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

in 2020, the things you see ;) - thank you for copy-editing, must be a high number of repeated mistakes! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:18, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Nun lässest du, o Herr

On 13 January 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Nun lässest du, o Herr, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the hymn "Nun lässest du, o Herr", written by Georg Thurmair as a paraphrase of the Nunc dimittis, appeared with a 16th-century melody in the first Gotteslob, but with a modern one in the second? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Nun lässest du, o Herr. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Nun lässest du, o Herr), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 12:01, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Psalm 85

 — Amakuru (talk) 12:01, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

kiss of Justice and Peace --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:18, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Nearly 5,000 clicks! Great job on the hook! And the image is beautiful. Yoninah (talk) 14:22, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

thank you, - you wrote the most interesting part of it: that the famous kiss may be a misunderstanding ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:24, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

Jesu meine Freude

Thanks for the edit summary reminding me of BWV227. BHG should certainly "Trotz dem alten Drachen" :-) Guy (help!) 09:11, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

yes and yes, defy the old dragon, and fear on top ("und der Furcht dazu") --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:34, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

the section back then was User talk:Gerda Arendt/Archive 2013#Stand and sing --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:44, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

• ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5Df7f_BLU8 --Gisel (talk) 17:07, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

  Thank you, but it's this. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:33, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

You're the sweetest

You always make me smile, thank you for your nice words of encouragement.

I brought you some `Atayef cos baklava is too mainstream ~ Elias Z. (talkallam) 12:57, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

This is so especially sweet, thank you, ~ Elias! How did you know that I just typed a comment that said "Sad." twice? Perfect timing! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:10, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

I am sorry for that. Looks like I'm missing out on a lot of Wikidrama. Anyway, I hope WP treats you nicely and you don't consider quitting ever again. ~ Elias Z. (talkallam) 10:45, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

As I said there: I stubbornly stay ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:49, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Die Himmel rühmen des Ewigen Ehre

On 2 February 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Die Himmel rühmen des Ewigen Ehre, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that "Die Himmel rühmen!" ('The heavens praise'), which begins an 1803 lieder collection by Beethoven setting Gellert's paraphrase of Psalm 19 to music, is also the title of a concert series by pop singer Heino? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Die Himmel rühmen des Ewigen Ehre. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Die Himmel rühmen des Ewigen Ehre), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 12:02, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

The first in 2020 topic Beethoven, and second in psalms, for a pic of the composer from that year see above. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:53, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

precious

Hi Gerda, Thankyou for my Precious birthday card, which I always enjoy receiving!! You must be kept fairly busy now that you have found so many deserving recipients, trying to think up things to say to everybody. My Quaker upbringing taps me on the shoulder to warn against taking too much notice of birthdays, but I permit myself a moment of satisfaction and just remember my first edit back in 2006 when (as I now notice) I was passing myself off under another alias. I trust all is well with you? Kind regards, Eebahgum (talk) 22:05, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for another lovely note, Eebahgum! Actually, I take less time for Precious these days, passing no longer every day but only when I see a new name. The birthdays are almost automated, preparing a time after me. I work on this list of memory, - everybody welcome to help: look at Deaths in 2020, see a name whose article is not yet in good shape, change that, and then she or he (just look above) will be mentioned on our Main page, giving them the attention their achievements deserve. My New Year's greting (wishes - flowers - music) is linked on top, and my visions for 2020 will stay for the year. The motto of vision is derived from project Vision 2020, "eliminate avoidable blindness", did you know? It's also a Beethoven year. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:49, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

"Deaths in 2020" is a bit ominous. I remember there were three real old rustic fellows who always used to sit together in a pub near here. After the first of them died, somebody put a little brass nameplate on the settle where he used to sit. When the second one died, the same thing happened. Then both the nameplates disappeared, because the third man came in with a screwdriver and took them off, saying "It will be me next!" I looked at the article this morning, and February 10 was (at that moment) still invitingly, enticingly, alluringly, menacingly BLANK: but to judge by all the precedents, the resident's list will be full up by tonight. I do not like such chilly hospitality: makes one think of the Wirtshaus in the Winterreise, but I intend to plod on a little further yet, crows, icicles, organ-grinders and all - "Excelsior"! Very best wishes, Eebahgum (talk) 09:46, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

The title isn't by me ;) - Mirella Freni, la soave fanciulla ... - so the hospitaliy of throughing out dead and unreliable sources, searching for better ones, with Mimi's singing in my head. Will go outside before doing more. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:16, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Maria, Königin des Friedens

Gatoclass (talk) 12:03, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

The architect just celebrated 100! I took one of the images, but not the lead ... - album here --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:14, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

A hello

Just popping in to leave a greeting. First, thanks for all your excellent work on the wiki. I appreciate all the encouragement you've given me. --LilHelpa (talk) 00:44, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

LilHelpa, thank you, great helper! I remember how you made the very beginning easy for me! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:47, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Beethoven

Beethoven in 1803

Good morning! Other than Bach, Beethoven is my favorite classical composer. The first time I heard 'Moonlight Sonata' was when I was eight years old when my Mom played it on our piano. It touched my heart deeply. God bless. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 04:43, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, Gwillhickers! Rather similar memories: at age 10, I began piano lessons, and one of the first records my mother bought contained that 14th sonata, performed by Friedrich Gulda. I played Für Elise rather soon, and it became my father's favourite, played on all his birthdays. I learned the first movement of the sonata in self-study, but wouldn't manage the third which impresses me the deepest. - I chenged the header, - it's his year! Memories of singing Die Himmel rühmen des Ewigen Ehre and Choral Fantasy date back to age 12. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:07, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Verleih uns Frieden (Mendelssohn)

On 25 February 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Verleih uns Frieden (Mendelssohn), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in his 1831 chorale cantata Verleih uns Frieden, Mendelssohn set Luther's German prayer for peace to a new melody? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Verleih uns Frieden (Mendelssohn). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Verleih uns Frieden (Mendelssohn)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Alte Liebe

On 28 February 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Alte Liebe, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Alte Liebe (Old Love) is a novel about a couple married for 40 years, told by a couple married longer but separated, with chapters written alternately by wife and husband? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Alte Liebe. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Alte Liebe), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Wug·a·po·des​ 01:24, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

ALte Liebe - old love. In the book, a couple married during the German student movement. - In memory of Käthe, married in the 1970s. Part of my February flowers. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:20, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

So I found this photo of the authors together. It's not very good, but is it better than none? Also for the Bernd Schroeder article? --GRuban (talk) 16:08, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

Yes!! thank you! - We have a rather good one of her but I found it unfair to use for the joint venture. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:14, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

Infobox book

I am helping with Sixto-Clementine Vulgate. I do not want to italicize the IB title but cannot resolve the problem. There is a parameter to force it but it doesn't seem to work. Any ideas? Otherwise I will ask on the template's talk page. The idea here is that the English title is an informal one and should not be italicized. Jmar67 (talk) 22:52, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

Good idea to ask on the template talk. It should not have the title italic, when the article title is not, per the parameter. Never had that problem, sorry. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:22, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

Perhaps RexxS would know? - We don't talk about the article title style - which works - but the title in the infobox itself. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:26, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

I have a solution, but it will need consensus to change the main infobox template. --RexxS (talk) 02:41, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, both! - see also WP:QAI/Infobox, - and once we are there can we also install a parameter Image_upright? ... which actually should be in every infobox with an image. - Rossini's birthday today, a rare thing ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:14, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

RexxS and all: once in wishlist mood, for Precious anniversaries, I copy a template, and manually change the user name, the image size and the years. I like to do that, because it's moments of remembering that I/we are thankful for a user's contribs. However, for fewer typing errors and life after me - returning from a funeral ... - I could imagine to call a template with a year as the only parameter, which fetches the basepagename and adjusts the imagesize accordingly, 1 year 0.2, 2 - 0.25, 3 - 0,3 ... - so far we have eight, and need to find a way for 10 and beyond to not get much larger ;) - --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:52, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

Precious

Eight years!

I've made Template:User QAIbox/auto that you can use like this: {{User QAIbox/auto|years=Four}}. You give the number of years as a capitalised word. It scales up to ten years, but stays at upright=0.65 for anything beyond nine years. It should still accept the other parameters as well, but you shouldn't need them for Precious Anniversary. If you get a chance to test it (maybe just preview it on some pages) and it's okay, perhaps you can add a little documentation to Template:User QAIbox/auto/doc, indicating how you'd like to see it used? --RexxS (talk) 20:27, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

That's lovely, thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:31, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

... and used, and modified here to eight, because that's what it is for me know, thanks to a friend. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:16, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

RexxS, I was pleased all the time, but fail to find the right id (in the list) for pablo X, - seems to be something about capital or not. - Help? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:03, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

I'm not really sure what problem you've run into. If you remember, we only made the sizing to go from one to nine years, and let ten and more all be at the same large size. The template works fine with sixteen years: {{User QAIbox/auto|years=Sixteen}}, but its size is no bigger than for ten years. Capitals make no difference to the template. --RexxS (talk) 16:50, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

RexxS, I tried to describe. The id in the table, for a user's entry, has to be equal to basepagename in the template, or the link from the years doesn't go to the right position. I managed for all so far since we use the template but not for pablo_X (or Pablo_X), and don't know what my mistake is. It's eight years for him, - he was recommended to me by Br'er Rabbit for his eighth anniversary of editing. I remember as if it was yesterday. and liked all encounters with pablo, from that first on, sadly becoming more and more rare. Just look at his present talk page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:45, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Okay, found it. Pablo X likes to style themselves as "pablo X". But the template uses {{BASEPAGENAME}} to pick up the name and make a link to the id in the table at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Quality Article Improvement/Precious, and their BASEPAGENAME is actually "Pablo X". Because links to anchors are case-sensitive (and the id creates an anchor), the link generated (Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Quality Article Improvement/Precious#Pablo X) didn't have an id (anchor) in the table that matched. I've just changed the id in the table from "pablo_X" to "Pablo_X" (their real name). The anchor now matches the link and it works as intended. It looks like you need to make sure that values for id in the table match the actual BASEPAGENAME (which almost certainly begins with a capital). Cheers --RexxS (talk) 20:28, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for confirming that. I was sure I had tried that as well, but shouldn't be too sure. Thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:31, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Wow, I never knew that you were such a Machiavellian mastermind. You've been behind everything, haven't you? lol ~ HAL333 15:02, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Dies war das erste - und netteste - was du jemals über mich gesagt hast, Gerda. Es wird sehr geschätzt. Danke.

Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 02:17, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Welcom to the cabal of the outcast, some of whom were not treated fairly by arbcom. After I joined the group, I understood the whole thing better when I read the uncomparable guide by a missed friend. ("... it has the force of a religious decree or legal mandate. Disregard the commandments herein at your peril", and I still see him smile writing that.) - You know my questionaires for candidates, and twice said you don't understand my question (which were always about fair treatment), which told me you were nor ready yet for the cabal ;) - Someone said "No foul, play on", and I hope you will listen and keep playing, the piano and with us. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:22, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

A cup of coffee and a thank you

Here's a digital cup of coffee for you! Thank you for believing in me and for your help!
StrangeloveFan101 (talk) 14:33, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, makes me happy! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:35, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

You're very welcome! And I've noticed that you're a fan of music. Here's one of my favorite singer's album. It comes from Rich Mullins. I hope you enjoy it and thanks again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbIYPYBiejM&list=PL_GEgJYfgrhdbRRAQDPBf1TsNMiwXfYNI StrangeloveFan101 (talk) 14:45, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

Powerful stuff, and this fugue cleverly packaged ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:59, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

I'll take a listen to it! I do like Bach's music. StrangeloveFan101 (talk) 15:24, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

I hope you are staying safe and isolated. It isn't classical, but my sister sent this to me and I thought it was awesome. People are so amazingly creative and can find so many ways to stay in touch. Made me smile in a time when there isn't a lot to smile about. SusunW (talk) 20:44, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

It made me smile although I can't see it in my country, as an error message informs me. I am known for singing in defiance, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:54, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

I am so sorry. It is a group of studio musicians performing as a choir via cell phone. I am sorry you cannot hear it, but I am glad it made you smile. Stay strong, stay away from others. SusunW (talk) 21:18, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Jessye Norman

— Maile (talk) 00:01, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

I feel blessed, having heard her in person at Carnegie Hall. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:14, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Request

Planning on taking the Honan Chapel article to PR in 14 days, and would be very appreciative if you could take a look, given how helpful you have been in the past. Have a strong connection to the building; lived (in a hovel) for two years literally 2 minutes walk from it as a student, and for the last 20 years the Gobnait window works for me in about a million ways. My best friend was married there in 2005. Anyway, if you get a chance. Ceoil (talk) 21:56, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, Ceoil, for an irresistible invitation. Once someone said to me "whatever works for you" and how true that is. The Opera house pictured was 2 minutes away from where I lived as a student, and I visited frequently. Back then, we sang St. Matthew Passion one year, and St. John Passion the other. This year, It would have been Matthew again, see above. What works for me is the song of defiance, also see above, which I sang even before, in Bach's incredible version. GA nom failed. Lyrics so suitable to these times: "weg mit allen Schätzen" - away with all treasures - and he composes weg, weg, weg, weg ... - but "ich steh hier und singe" - here I stand and sing. (I used it in defiance of arbcom already, as you probably know, and I was recently reminded.) - What keeps me busy is making articles decent of people who recently died - many. I haven't looked today yet. Then, I'll turn to that wonderful image, please be patient. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:54, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

I looked now - only looked, and it's another one with many pictures which make placement tricky. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:25, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

(more in the archive)

DYK for Three Latin Motets

On 7 April 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Three Latin Motets, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Three Latin Motets, Charles Villiers Stanford's only church music not in English, was dedicated to Alan Gray, who succeeded him as organist at Trinity College, Cambridge, and the college's choir? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Three Latin Motets. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Three Latin Motets), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

--valereee (talk) 00:01, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

One of them is Beati quorum via integra est. - Difficult to translate, the tricky word being "integra" which is not easy in both English and German, - looking for an adjective related to integrity, for the way, which is the way of living, not just walking. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:18, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

We sang it last on 8 March. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:46, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

I found this about it: “I am always delighted when I hear sung the words from a psalm, “Beati quorum via integra est” – blessed are they whose way is “whole”. “Integra” is full of resonances: uncorrupt, integrated, wholesome, complete. Yet perhaps our splendour, if humanity has any, ultimately lies in the split in our nature, and how we handle it...“ . His Latin may be better than his wisdom, but if I were you I should use his translation. Moonraker (talk) 02:30, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, taken. Now I'd also be interested in the meaning in Hebrew. Yoninah? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:51, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

The Hebrew word, תְמִֽימֵי־דָ֑רֶךְ, can be literally read as "pure in the way." El_C 23:57, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

That sounds great, but would need some explanation for me. I like a positive word like "pure", compared to "blameless", "undefiled", and also to the frequent "perfect", because nobody is ... - The recordings sounds pure ;) - Yoninah, I think some of this should go to Psalm 119, even if we can't quote the whole long thing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:19, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

The Hebrew word תְמִֽימֵי means as Moonraker says "wholesome", also "straightforward", "sincere". "Purehearted" would work. Yoninah (talk) 18:16, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

I had better add that the word “via” has most of the meanings of “way”, and in this psalm it plainly doesn’t mean something you stand on! So the word way might as well be kept. It’s a matter of which other word to use for the metaphor, and wholesome may be better than whole. Moonraker (talk) 19:21, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

On infoboxes

Gerda, are you not still limited to two comments per infobox discussion? ((I'm thinking of here). I should not like to see you getting into any trouble. Best--Smerus (talk) 12:23, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

That provision has now expired (although I hope I don't need to remind you all that arguing about infoboxes is never going to end well for anyone). ‑ Iridescent 12:46, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Gerda's dream

... has expired in 2015 - I wonder when the new times begin when those boxes are treated nothing special, like tables and images, - it could be now, imagine ;) ... imagine how much editors' time could go to something more useful than debate if something meant to help readers (and could be opted out if not wanted) is permitted to help or not. - ps, and see my New year's intentions on top: I normally try to stick to 2 comments voluntarily, in ANY discussion, because it's more polite to other participants (and - selfish - it limits my waste of time). - Today's topic: Psalm 31, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:51, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

I think you are wise - I will try in future to limit myself to two comments as well. Hope you are keeping well - I am finding lockdown very tedious. Best--Smerus (talk) 15:20, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

I answered below. and gave it a Passion header. For the infoboxes, I began hoping in 2013. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:08, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

St John Passion 2020, in defiance

Thank you ;) - Normally, we would have sung St Matthew Passion, instead, I sang along in the St John Passion from Bach's burial place in the Thomaskirche, and sometimes cried. Exceptional tenor who took ALL roles, with keyboard (switching harpsichord and organ) and percussion. They left out some arias. Great moments! (... such as "kreuzige" hissed to drums, and "es ist vollbracht" first as Jesus, then an octave lower than in the alto aria, and at its end high, as if uplifted ...) - link Carus bachfest --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:09, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

A header for it: Passion trotz(t) Pandemie, which is hard to translate. Suggestions welcome. Trotz (defiance) is a key word in Jesu, meine Freude (which I quoted after the arb case, to connect to the beginning). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:08, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Thou knowest, Lord, the secrets of our hearts (Purcell)

On 17 April 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Thou knowest, Lord, the secrets of our hearts (Purcell), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the second of Henry Purcell's two settings of Thou knowest, Lord, the secrets of our hearts was composed in an earlier style for the funeral of Queen Mary II of England? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Thou knowest, Lord, the secrets of our hearts (Purcell). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Thou knowest, Lord, the secrets of our hearts (Purcell)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

--valereee (talk) 00:01, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Finally. We sang it on 8 March, and put the secrets of our hearts into it, "spare us, Lord!" ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:02, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Precious

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		I'm back from a really long Wikibreak, and I am absolutely astounded at how you single-handedly continued the tradition of recognizing fellow Wikipedians for their great work at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Quality Article Improvement/Precious for the past eight years. Absolutely stunning. I truly wish you could have met Phaedriel; you really inherited her spirit of fostering WikiLove! bibliomaniac15 23:34, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, Bibliomaniac15, blushing to a colour like the strawberries below, and mostly: welcome back!! - You may have noticed (look for the Yogo above) that I try to prepare the award for a time after me, and you are most welcome - as some others do already, and everybody is invited to - to pass the award. We sometimes have two one day, and miss days, - doesn't matter ;) - It's good for me to do first thing in the morning: to look around for the many reasons to be thankful. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:28, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Le Concert Spirituel

On 22 April 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Le Concert Spirituel, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Le Concert Spirituel played Handel's open-air music at the Proms with an ensemble that comprised 18 oboes, 9 trumpets, 9 trombones, and strings? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Le Concert Spirituel. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Le Concert Spirituel), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Vanamonde (Talk) 12:01, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

listen if you think uplifting music would be good for you - Concert spirituel translates to Geistliches Konzert, or spiritual concert - remembering Erhard Egidi who conducted much uplifting music, but said after a service with choral music, asked what he liked best: the unison singing of Allein Gott in der Höh sei Ehr. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:16, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Haroun and the Sea of Stories (opera)

On 26 April 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Haroun and the Sea of Stories (opera), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Haroun and the Sea of Stories, an opera by Charles Wuorinen, is based on a children's novel by Salman Rushdie about free imagination in battle with thought control? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Haroun and the Sea of Stories (opera). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Haroun and the Sea of Stories (opera)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Credo (Penderecki)

— Maile (talk) 00:01, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

... that Krzysztof Penderecki inserted at the end of his Credo, from Psalm 118, "Haec dies, quam fecit Dominus ..." (This is the day, which the Lord has made: Let us rejoice and be glad in it.)?

Only just noticed you had done this. Impressed, its a fantastic piece of work. Ceoil (talk) 21:51, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you! As said just below, my way to honour a great composer! - I have the Chapel on my radar, don't give up hope ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:56, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Writer's Barnstar
	Thankyou for creating Credo (Penderecki) and honouring the wonderful composer! † Encyclopædius 11:03, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Thank you. That was the intention, to honour the composer, - I feel understood. When I can't improve a composer to where I want him I write about a composition. In this case, I didn't know when I started how close that would get me to the topics of death and life, so prominent for Easter. He quoted from Psalm 130 and Psalm 118, creating something new anchored in tradition. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:09, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Thank you!

	Thank you!
	Your untiring work to let people know that they have been seen and appreciated makes this place better. Thank you. bonadea contributions talk 22:51, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, blushing. I took the liberty of enlarging the pic, because while I recognized it, it may have been too small for others. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:58, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Good idea. I did think that the image was a bit small, but it was almost 1am when I posted it and I was too tired to think of doing that! In my opinion, the Mass in B Minor is one of the most wonderful pieces of music in the world (if you can call that huge work a "piece of music"!). I have been privileged to perform it twice with my choir, and I think our choir director is considering it for the spring of 2022 again. I am very much an amateur chorist, but am fortunate to be part of a rather good choir. I hope we'll get back to rehearsing and performing again in August, but who knows... --bonadea contributions talk 13:11, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

bonadea, I agree about it's magnificence. Sung unforgettably in a concert for Peace here, at the Wiesbadener Bachwochen, again unforgettably here the day before the Iraq war ultimatum (you should have heard us sing Dona nobis pacem!!!), and last in 2013, my perspective pictured in my work of love, here, promised. Dona nobis pacem, - same music as Gratias, very meaningful. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:10, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Barnstar

	#1400 DYK
	Wow! And as we come up on Mothers day, MOM upside down. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 12:19, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

A thank you

What I actually came to say was, thank you for what you do. Another recently deceased musician, and more hard work from you to get their biography into shape. Besides what you write on music generally. And caring too. I know you thank many others, and I am not sure you get the thanks you deserve in return. --PaulBetteridge (talk) 15:08, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, Paul, that's nice. If you look at the top, you'll see that I'm the third-most-thanked person on the project, and I doubt that I deserve that ;) - I'm working on this list of thanks for what people did in life, and - while the reason to look is sad - it's quite rewarding. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:10, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Another funny number: 50k articles on the watchlist --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:31, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Hans Herbert Jöris

On 15 May 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Hans Herbert Jöris, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Hans Herbert Jöris conducted the world premiere of Giselher Klebe's one-act opera Das Rendezvous, composed for the 125th anniversary of the Staatsoper Hannover? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Hans Herbert Jöris. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Hans Herbert Jöris), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:02, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Did you know that Hans Herbert Jöris conducted the first church concert I ever heard, with a Bach cantata? - 15 May is his birthday, and Monteverdi's. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:47, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Might I offer you another kitten?

El_C 09:51, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

yes but not left, she should look "in" ;) - List of operas by Claudio Monteverdi on my mind today, not passion hymns. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:54, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Well, me and the kitten can help with the vandalism, at the very least! El_C 10:03, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Great especially since I will be outside for most of the day. Another DYK going to come up shortly, - sometimes nothing for days, and then two on one ;) - thank you and the kitten for watchful eyes! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:06, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Of course. It is my pleasure. El_C 10:10, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Jesu, meine Freude, BWV 227

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Jesu, meine Freude, BWV 227 you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Sturmvogel 66 -- Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 03:20, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Doktor Johannes Faust

On 5 June 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Doktor Johannes Faust, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the opera Doktor Johannes Faust by Hermann Reutter, which was premiered by the Oper Frankfurt in 1936, is based on a puppet play? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Doktor Johannes Faust. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Doktor Johannes Faust), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:01, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

I wrote the article in memory of a friend, with whom I saw Faust II in Frankfurt. I should have written his article. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:42, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Prächtig!† Encyclopædius 10:34, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Anna and Bernhard Blume

On 23 June 2020, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Anna and Bernhard Blume, which you nominated and updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen 02:26, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

A birthday

Happy birthday? El_C 05:13, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

not mine today (but close) - want to add? - Today is the birthday of one with the river Rhine. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:20, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Cool, sounds primordial. El_C 05:42, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

What can you do in restricted times? I'm on my way to make the meetings real, in portions, a hike to that meadow, another around the rose town, a bike tour along the Rhine from Oppenheim and another to the Kreuzkapelle, a lunch overlooking the Rhine in Mainz, and church services happened already, more hikes and even organ concerts are planned, and for me, that's even better than seeing them all the same day as 2 decades ago. It helps to live in a blessed area where others come for vacation. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:23, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

(Belated apologies.) That sounds absolutely serene. Petting a chipmunk is also nice. Anyway, A very merry Unbirthday to you! To you! El_C 01:30, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

Happy petting that happy chipmunk! - Thank you for the wishes, coming a good day, 20 years OTD that the Chanticleer sang at Unionskirche, Idstein, as part the Rheingau Musik Festival, and I was permitted to take photos during their rehearsal, - such wonderful and still vivid memories of walking around in a great building filled with unbelievable harmony. I wanted to make a box above but perhaps better to keep it down here, modestly. What I did was begin the years with their sounds, DYK? Look above for Chanticleer. - This year, a cellist - subject of my first article here, and I never wanted to write any other, only there was this red link ... - wants to play for me and my guests, as many birthdays before, which is more tricky to arrange. My favourite church (pictured above) is too small (36 people right now), the next holding 100 but too resonant (looking forward to an organ concert there on Saturday, which was planned for March), - perhaps I'll ask Unionskirche ... - Would you like to tell me a place and a song for my virtual sing-along? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:11, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

I found the 2000 program, - first half sacred music by William Cornysh, Tomás Luis de Victoria, Vasily Polikarpovich Titov and John Taverner, and then music by Alberto Ginastera, Benitez Valencia, Astor Piazzolla, George Gershwin, Nacio Herb Brown, and spirituals. We were taken by the black voice of Eric Alatorre, who retired only last year, as I found out today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:45, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

Tous des mercis beaucoups, dear Gerda A.!

Dear lovely Gerda A.!

You have warmed my soul.

I'm going through an unexpected health unpleasantness at the moment (fortunately noninfectious and with no cognizable COVID-19 nexus; just what a drag it is getting old) and I don't have any more of the words in any of my fumbling languages to thank you sufficiently for this truly appreciated and even more unexpected recognition.

YOU are the precious one!

--JDL.

Julietdeltalima (talk) 20:00, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

thank you, so nice of you to come over inspite of health trouble, - best wishes to overcome it! - ... and yes, just call me Gerda, - nice to have found you, Juliet --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:05, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

💎💎💎

Gerda ~

I’ve been meaning to stop by here to tell you how much your presence is appreciated. (You beat me to it by mere hours with your “like”, which is also very much appreciated). I can’t actually imagine being so selfless and warm-hearted that I would spend my time investigating others’ good actions, and create little gifts 🎁 for fellow editors that highlight and celebrate what they’ve done right, like you do. You give out 💎 when really you are the true gem around here, my dear. 💕 petrarchan47คุก 02:51, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Sarah, thank you - blushing - for a beautiful gift, wrapped preciously, however, I explained on this page more than once that it's quite selfish ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:54, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Oh did I forget to add: ...and humble too. ;) petrarchan47คุก

DYK for Meine engen Grenzen

On 12 July 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Meine engen Grenzen, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that "Meine engen Grenzen" ("My narrow limits"), a new hymn with text by Eugen Eckert and a melody by Winfried Heurich, was recorded with a band? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Meine engen Grenzen. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Meine engen Grenzen), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:01, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day!

Have a very happy first edit anniversary!

From the Birthday Committee, CAPTAIN RAJU 00:16, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, - I remember well, first article deleted within minutes, but then I received great help, first by Cmadler, then Michael Bednarek (see above), LilHelpa (see just above), Jerome Kohl, and all you others (in the order of appearance). Thank you! (If I think I missed you, let me know, right here. )-Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:20, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day!

Hey, Gerda Arendt. I'd like to wish you a wonderful First Edit Day on behalf of the Misplaced Pages Birthday Committee! Have a great day! Megan Barris (Lets talk📧) 09:38, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, more detail above ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:40, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

Today's Wikipedian 10 years ago

Awesome

Ten years!

Thank you for your many years as one of Misplaced Pages's shining stars. Your exemplary work is greatly appreciated! MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 07:15, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, blushing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:16, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

Congratulation! Grimes2 (talk) 08:22, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, and even more for updating Leon Fleisher! A nice gift: Monteverdi's operas are a featured topic now!! We can't thank Brian enough for being such an inspiration, still! DYK, today is also his day of Today's Wikipedian 10 years ago ;) - Thank you, Aza, for the initiative to honour him. Giants2008, letting you know for the FLN above. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:58, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

Bon anniversaire.

I got a reminder.

So I hope you are well, and you can't say I forgot.

Take care.

Begoon 19:01, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

How lovely to see you "alive". 'cause missing the dead is bad enough. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:07, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
	Thanks you for your constant positivity and friendliness. This platform needs more people like you. Hope you're having a great day! ~ HAL333 20:50, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, blushing a bit. Did you see 3RR above? I enjoy the softer tones ;) - DId you know that Erich Gruenberg was the lead violinist for Sgt. Pepper? I didn't , and keep learning? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:02, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

No I didn't - that's very interesting. I'm actually currently burning through the discography of another great British band: The Kinks. ~ HAL333 02:05, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

Article Rescue Barnstar

		The Article Rescue Barnstar
		For rescuing Anton Jivaev, which I didn't think was notable, but you have proven otherwise. Thank you! 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 01:01, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

My third article was about a viola player, and someone thanked me for the DYK, and I remember ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:07, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt: Congrats! 🤣 Camy (talk) 14:08, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Today's featured list 21 August 2020

Claudio Monteverdi (1567–1643) composed ten operas, a genre that emerged while he was a court musician in Mantua. His first opera, L'Orfeo, premiered in 1607 and became the first opera still in today's repertoire. The music for seven of his opera projects is mostly lost. Four of these were completed and performed, while he abandoned the others at some point. Libretti have survived for some of them, as well as fragments of the music for L'Arianna and Proserpina rapita. Monteverdi composed operas for a theatre in Venice when he was master of music at San Marco, including Il ritorno d'Ulisse in patria in 1640 and L'incoronazione di Poppea in 1643, both of which also remain in the repertoire. (This list is part of a featured topic: Operas by Claudio Monteverdi.)

• Archive
• More featured lists

Note to self and Aza, with thanks, in memory of Brian. See Misplaced Pages:Today's featured list/August 21, 2020 and 21 August 2020. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:43, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

Congratulations! One more feather for you highly decorated cap.--Ipigott (talk) 09:24, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, but the crown goes to Brian who wrote the articles listed, and to let his work shine was the only intention. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:32, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Kreuzkapelle, Bad Camberg

— Maile (talk) 00:01, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Nun jauchzt dem Herren, alle Welt

The article Nun jauchzt dem Herren, alle Welt you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Nun jauchzt dem Herren, alle Welt for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Aza24 -- Aza24 (talk) 22:41, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Rhythm Is It!

On 31 August 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Rhythm Is It!, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Rhythm Is It! is a 2004 documentary film about 250 public school students trained by Royston Maldoom to dance Stravinsky's Le Sacre du printemps with the Berlin Philharmonic? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Rhythm Is It!. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Rhythm Is It!), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

I remember well. Education of an energetic kind, for kids from many cultural backgrounds to work towards one goal, - a model for us all. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:42, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

TFA Monteverdi Vespers 1 September

Vespro della Beata Vergine

Magnificat from the alto partbook of Monteverdi's Vespro della Beata Vergine kept in the Vatican Library

This article is about the Vespers for the Blessed Virgin, or Vespers of 1610, by Claudio Monteverdi. His opera L'Orfeo, premiered in 1607, is the first opera still widely performed, and the Vespers are similarly exceptional. Monteverdi, aspiring to a better positiom than court musician in Mantua, demonstrated the broad range of his abilities, writing with a post in Rome in mind, but instead went to San Marco, Venice, a few years later. We don't know if the music was ever performed completely during his lifetime, nor if he actually expected it to be performed that way. Certainly musicologists and musicians have been fascinated from the 20th century on. Monteverdi set much more text than the usual 5 psalms + Magnificat, and required a 10-part choir in one psalm, and a rich orchestra. He combined the ever-present Gregorian chant with dramatic and virtuoso elements from the emerging opera, and offered a great diversity in musical styles and expression. Here is a short introduction, - in the background you hear an extreme performance, a recording which renders only the music Monteverdi wrote (and no additions to make it a proper liturgical vespers service), with 10 singers, and soloists for all instruments. I heard them in concert at the Rheingau Musik Festival which will be missed this year.

The article is the work of many over many years ... The main inspiration came from Brian Boulton who wrote the articles about the composer and his operas, and who generously left me the sources he had collected, the greatest honour I received in my ten years here. (from the FAC)

(1 September 2020 - 1 September was the day of the dedication in 1610, and of our concert in 2019)

Congrats

On your TFA. I have enjoyed reading it. Altamel (talk) 06:52, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Schadeberg

Wow, an FA, DYK and ITN all on the same day would indeed have been a great Triple Crown (I wonder if that's been done before?). I understand your disappointment :( I'm really just speculating about why it's not been posted - it could just be a simple oversight and nothing to do with the image talk. There's a discussion right now about that perennial problem.-- P-K3 (talk) 17:50, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Jürgen Schadeberg

On 1 September 2020, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Jürgen Schadeberg, which you nominated and updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. P-K3 (talk) 18:28, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

I'm very glad to say I spoke too soon!-- P-K3 (talk) 18:29, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, lovely! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:37, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

I should have quoted Günter Schabowski and said, "Post it sofort … unverzüglich!" – Sca (talk) 22:23, 1 September 2020 (UTC) Ha.

Thank you for what you did there, Sca. Some seem not too have understood the irony of 2090 though ;) - Flowers to come, - I was a bit too tired yesterday. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:29, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

Appreciation

Hi there! I hope you don't mind that I nominated your dahlia image as a quality image since it is really awesome! I've just read about infobox thangs but whatever, you're really kind and compassionate and I just wanna give you a virtual embrace for all the "blood", sweat and tears done here (And of course D Y K). Did you know ... that I have an appreciation list on my userpage? Do talk soon :D Vincent (talk) (Kenton!) 09:16, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, Vincent. You received my everlasting embrace years ago, remember? - Tears were few, when Dreadstar died (see Impact, just above), and when Boris died (top of 2019 archive, and quote and link therin). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:53, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

Yea, and I remember looking at Boris's article too, good times. We do love embraces don't we :D Vincent (talk) (Kenton!) 14:13, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

Yesterday's horrible news

What a huge huge loss. I didn't even know him that well, but I am devastated. DBaK (talk) 08:57, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

So am I. - We talk about the memory of Jerome Kohl, with whom I had good conversations over ten years, - many topics, such as Schnebel (he said: "Sad to see another great music maker gone") and Stockhausen's Originale which I saw, and he said "Fantastic! What an experience it must have been! Thank you for telling me!". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:52, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Silence

While I agree with the sentiments of this post, I think it's worth quoting a bit of Misplaced Pages:Ignore all dramas : "Say something there only if you can say it well and politely, and it helps all concerned, causing no further harm." I have to say that for those who understand what you mean, you're telling them something they already know, and for those who don't (or don't want to), you're just going to antagonise them : "none so deaf as those who will not hear". Let those who want to tear each other's heads off do so and go about your business improving the encyclopedia; hopefully when the dust is settled around the charred remains of burned-out editors, some may think "you know what, we really should have looked at that picture of a kitten after all". Ritchie333 13:12, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

You just caused further harm sadness. I replied to a post on your talk, where I had mentioned silence, and (instead of silence) was questioned further. Silence please. I miss a great person. There's a picture of a kitten, - hope you like it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:07, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Ritchie, please look around. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:36, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

I understand it's upsetting to hear that friends, colleagues etc. have died. However, there's a line between being upset and using it as a stick to beat other people with. For example, here when I was trying to make the point that the COVID-19 pandemic was putting severe strain on people's mental health, going as far as suicide (and somewhat ironically, I had User:Gerda Arendt/User talk before you block at the forefront of my mind there); however, using someone's death as a device to win an argument on Misplaced Pages is not acceptable and I shouldn't have done it. In the case you mention above, the point Cassianto and others were making is that there is an intractable and seemingly unresolvable dispute that doesn't seem able to resolve itself, and it would be a huge boost for the project for somebody to cut the Gordian Knot and allow things to progress. But taking a stand on a difficult issue as an admin means you get a target on your back by anyone who doesn't agree with it. I think that's the point Cass was getting at; hoping the issue will go away is the simplest issue, but not necessarily the right one. It's different from ignoring individual drama queens who draw attention to themselves. Ritchie333 09:50, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

I see that you misunderstood completely, and lack of good faith is what's missing most in the sad repeated discussions. I mentioned respectful stance towards each other as the cure Jerome lived, and we should follow. I said again and again that I don't want ANYBODY sanctioned, because I think this is exactly the opposite of a respectful look at a user's comments. I am not even IN that argument, have refrained to say support or oppose in the two (and no more!) RfCs of 2020. So what do you mean by "winning" it? (rhetoric question) I disliked taking one person to AE, yes, for the reasons explained, that was one too many, imho. - I told you my solution about a cutting of the Gordian knot: don't participate, let it dry out. Who cares at the end of the day if a certain article has an infobox, or if it is collapsed? I don't. If we'd all stop to care we were done with the topic. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:33, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

see also tributes - we should write his article --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:42, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

I have made a start here. I'd like to give a fuller reply to the above at some point later today, but for now I'll reference this quotation : "It takes a lot of courage to stand up to your enemies. It takes even more to stand up to your friends." Ritchie333 11:11, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

I have no enemies, and request everybody thinking I am their enemy to please let's talk about it. I stand up for those new to the discussions "welcomed" is if they were not (two more on Mozart recently, by the way). Sure, some may be not so new, but would it really hurt to treat them as if they were? And that's about all I'd like to see changed, in the spirit described. Is that general enough? - In case you defend your walk to AE, I believe you could find ways to stand up for your friends that don't deliver someone else, potentially innocent, to the of AE. - Could you please let me know that you understand that I used my dead friend as a model, not as a stick? Because that really hurt. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:34, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Of course, I'm sorry you were upset about that, and it was not my intention to do so; it's just when I get off-wiki complaints saying "Why can't you do something about Gerda?" (when from my point of view you are a prolific content creator, extremely kind and patient, caring and considerate) then I feel I at least need to spell the issue out so there's awareness of it. I used the quotation above because I'd like to consider you a friend on the project, and as it says, it takes courage to try and resolve an issue involving one of your friends when you think it may upset them. Ritchie333 11:37, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

So you support my point that there's too little good faith, expressed in offline and online aspersions. Made my day! - I consider you a friend, but telling me I have anything to with a stick and "heads off" wasn't exactly an expression of what I understand as friendship ;) There's a long history of the infobox wars on our project page, ending (bottom line, and hopefully last line ever) "In 2020, we could realise that we have more productive things to do than waste time in arguments about infobox yes or no." (February 2020) - Could you perhaps coordinate steps in getting there? Get the people together, - and I think you are on speaking terms with all involved? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:48, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

I think my point is more that text communication is a difficult mechanism to convey what you actually mean (as opposed to what the other person thinks you mean) and it is too easy for people to misunderstand each other. All I would say is - concentrate on the articles. I see you have got two DYKs on the main page today, as have I. Focus on that. As stated above, I have started Draft:Jerome Kohl with a one sentence microstub off a single source; we'll need several more serious quality sources to demonstrate WP:PROF or WP:GNG; if you've got them, put them and we'll see what we can do. Ritchie333 17:11, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Text communication is difficult. Please go over my New Year's resolution, below the TOC, and tell me if anything is unclear. - I wrote about 130 DYK articles this year (not counting a FA and a few GAs), and commented (no more, not even taking a side, just commenting a futile waste of time) in 2 RfCs, and you tell me to focus on content, really? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:46, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

It crossed my mind that Licht - Jerome's great work - matches my topic of the year - vision - perfectly. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:20, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

It crossed my mind further that perhaps I should not be silent about being just an observer of the infobox wars (or however they might be called). I was wounded, and had enough, deciding to step away in 2015. - Let's look at the current discussion. It could have been so short. Nominator presents reasoning per the MoS to uncollaps an infobox, asking for good reasons not to follow the MoS in the specific case. There are no good (= factual) reasons. So instead, we argue about not so good reasons, on several noticeboards, with rising heat. I try to be silent but sometimes the level of frustration is too high. It's a complete waste of everybody's time. The simple answer to a good proposal could be "Why not?" - The Autobahnkirche Siegerland is a place for silence. Thank you for watching, made nice stats. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:25, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Matthias Hölle

On 8 September 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Matthias Hölle, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Matthias Hölle, a regular bass singer at the Bayreuth Festival, appeared in the world premieres of Stockhausen's Donnerstag aus Licht and Samstag aus Licht at La Scala in Milan? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Matthias Hölle. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Matthias Hölle), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

This DYK was worded as a greeting to my friend Jerome Kohl who wrote all we know about Stockhausen and works. It became a tribute in memoriam, In Freundschaft. The piece was played at a concert dedicated to William Waterhouse. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:36, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

a minute of silence

DYK for Autobahnkirche Siegerland

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:01, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, - one of my places ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:20, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

As you did ask for me to keep a look out, I fixed the fact tags. Ritchie333 12:21, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

That's excellent, Ritchie, thank you! Biking Weikersheim to Wertheim, a first for me, also excellent. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:34, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

I took almost the same pic, evening, someone leaning out the right window, - perhaps I'll upload it, - of course I believe that mine is better ;) - nice stats for the place of silence, 9.707. Thanks all for interest! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:31, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Klaviermusik mit Orchester

On 12 September 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Klaviermusik mit Orchester, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Klaviermusik mit Orchester, a 1923 piano concerto for the left hand by Paul Hindemith, was first performed in 2004 by Leon Fleisher and the Berlin Philharmonic? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Klaviermusik mit Orchester. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Klaviermusik mit Orchester), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

Thank you

Der Tod ist verschlungen in den Sieg.

Tod, wo ist dein Stachel, Hölle, wo ist dein Sieg?

For the very interesting article about Franz Leuninger --Maleschreiber (talk) 03:47, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, just what I needed. (Funeral 17 September, in Munich, where the memorial is.) Thank you also for excellent copy-editing. The article is the result of many users working together, - I hope they watch here. I couldn't believe - prompted by the death of his nephew - that he had no article. I love that music, sung in Hannover and Wiesbaden. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:00, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	For helping make the article Joe El stand and for your kind pieces of advice, I hereby present you this barnstar. Cheers! Kambai Akau (talk) 21:39, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, lovely. Thank you for taking advice on board! I gave advice in another case, but the main author didn't listen, and it was deleted. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:45, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Moop Mama

On 15 September 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Moop Mama, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Moop Mama, a band of seven brass players, two drummers, and a rapper, began "guerilla concerts" in Munich's Englischer Garten in 2009? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Moop Mama. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Moop Mama), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:04, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

listen to Meermenschen (people from the sea), in rehearsal --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:43, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Marina de Gabaráin

Hello! Your submission of Marina de Gabaráin at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Constantine ✍ 16:31, 15 September 2020 (UTC)