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Father's Occupation

https://sahanjournal.com/remembering-minnesotans-lost-to-covid-19/he-was-loved-by-everyone-the-somali-community-remembers-nur-omar-mohamed-who-died-of-covid-19/ It is not in any sense defamatory to link the obituary where her father's occupation in Somalia is noted as a colonel if the page is listing his profession. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.44.5.219 (talk) 17:15, 9 September 2020 (UTC) Was her father a teacher trainer in Somalia or in the US? Sources differ. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.44.5.219 (talk) 19:32, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

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Omar has paid Tim Mynett’s consulting firm a total of more than $878,000 since 2018 — including $189,000 just weeks after the couple announced they were husband and wife. Calicchio, Dom. (2020). Ilhan Omar paid $878G to new husband’s consulting firm, data show: report. FoxNews.com. 24.125.163.200 (talk) 19:09, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Don't post edit requests until you have gained consensus for changes. TFD (talk) 19:46, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

I found the url for that Fox News article. They cite Richard Painter saying the arrangement "should not be allowed", but that it is allowed by ethics law. Other lawmakers with spouses doing campaign work for them include U.S. Rep. Mike Doyle, D-Pa., and U.S. Sen. Kevin Cramer, R-N.D., the Post reported. I bet the IP isn't as interested in those bios. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:55, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Category

I removed the Category:Anti-Zionism in the United States in this edit as the article does not discuss Omar in these terms. Pls see WP:CATDEF. --K.e.coffman (talk) 21:13, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

This is completely ridiculous. Omar is an outspoken anti-Zionist. The last line in her lead section reads: "A frequent critic of Israel, Omar has denounced its settlement policy and military campaigns in the occupied Palestinian territories, and what she describes as the influence of pro-Israel lobbies." Revert the change.

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There's a tweet by Hufsa Kamal in the Patriotism questioned subsection. Please add this reference to the references at the end of the tweet. Thanks! 209.166.108.199 (talk) 16:19, 26 September 2020 (UTC) 209.166.108.199 (talk) 16:19, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: There are already RS for this claim and adding the tweet adds nothing. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 20:31, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

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Voter Fraud?

There is a Youtube video with allegations of Ilhan Omar being involved with voter fraud. It's just two days old and already comes close to one million views. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWK56l2VaLY Shouldn't that be mentioned in the article? Shai-Huludim (talk) 07:03, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

A Youtube video is not a reliable source, see WP:RS and WP:BLP. NightHeron (talk) 10:18, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/minneapolis-police-omar-ballot-harvesting

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbrewster/2020/09/28/trump-has-turned-ballot-harvesting-into-a-rallying-cry-against-mail-in-voting-heres-what-it-is/

Shai-Huludim (talk) 12:22, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

This is Project Veritas, a group known for deceptively edited videos and not close to a reliable source. O3000 (talk) 12:27, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Nice to see the puke funnel still operates smoothly. The Daily Mail, so we know it must be legit! --JBL (talk) 12:37, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Legit enough for the Minneapolis police department to investigate. This will be in the article. I dare you : )Shai-Huludim (talk) 12:56, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Please go troll elsewhere. --JBL (talk) 12:58, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

I am seeing more coverage of this; may be encyclopedic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.241.107.191 (talk) 17:02, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Nothing Project Veritas claims has been proven to be truthful. Right wing echo chambers do not establish significant coverage. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:20, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Seconded. The number of sources probably isn't a good metric unless those sources are independently attempting to verify/fact check the claims made by Project Veritas. So far, this has mostly just been ignored by reputable outlets, and those who have covered it have simply reported what PV said. Nblund 17:44, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Today's New York Times has an article that characterizes the Project Veritas video attacking Omar as "disinformation" (see "Project Veritas Video Was a ‘Coordinated Disinformation Campaign,’ Researchers Say", ). NightHeron (talk) 13:59, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

Numerous local news agencies-- https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020/09/29/project-veritas-report-accuses-ilhan-omar-supporters-of-illegally-harvesting-ballots/, https://www.twincities.com/2020/09/28/project-veritas-video-alleges-widespread-voter-fraud-in-mn-with-u-s-rep-ilhan-omar-at-head/, etc.--have reported the alleged ballot harvesting/voter fraud. It should definitely be mentioned somewhere. Dr.Swag Lord, Ph.d (talk) 00:45, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

Financial transparency section

I would vote that the financial transparency section be decoupled from her time in state politics and moved to its own section, and beefed up with more recent news, e.g. https://www.twincities.com/2019/08/28/ilhan-omar-under-scrutiny-first-marriage-then-fidelity-now-a-federal-campaign-complaint-and-a-state-fair-death-threat/ MaineCrab (talk) 18:05, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

That "news" is not recent; it's over a year old. As far as I know, nothing came out of the old complaints made by conservative anti-Omar sources. Are there any recent mainstream sources for this? This source doesn't belong in the article, per WP:RS and WP:BLP. NightHeron (talk) 19:29, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

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Please change "He made a series of false and misleading claims about Omar, including allegations that she had praised al-Qaeda, argued for leniency with ISIS recruits, and "smeared" American soldiers who had fought in Battle of Mogadishu by bringing up the numerous Somali civilian casualties" to "He made a series of false and misleading claims about Omar, including allegations that she had praised al-Qaeda and "smeared" American soldiers who had fought in Battle of Mogadishu by bringing up the numerous Somali civilian casualties." The very source that was cited directly states that Omar did, in fact, plead leniency for ISIS recruits in a 2016 federal case. Dr.Swag Lord, Ph.d (talk) 00:34, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

1. https://www.politifact.com/article/2019/jul/18/fact-checking-trumps-misleading-attacks-omar-ocasi/

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