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Emma Louise Turner

I've moved the page to this title since she was an author and naturalist as well as a photographer, and I've added an image. I was thinking of working this up to FA, and since you are the current main editor, I wondered if you wished to be involved in the process? There won't be any rush with this anyway Jimfbleak - talk to me? 15:35, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

@Jimfbleak: Thank you for asking, and well done for finding the photo - I'd never seen that before. I've never been that bothered by the FA process, but I will watch any suggestions for improvement with interest. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:04, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
Thanks, Andy. I'll be taking my time on this anyway, particularly while the weather's good! Jimfbleak - talk to me? 10:29, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
I have a problem with two existing refs:
  • 1939 England and Wales Register
  • England & Wales, National Probate Calendar, 1940. TURNER Emma Louisa of...
I don't know if they are yours or not, but quicker to ask than to search the history. If they are, the first is particularly problematic, since there is no url or access date, which there should be even if it's a paid for site, also not sure why 1939. The same applies to the second, since we know what it says, but again there should presumably be a url. Any help you can give would be great. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 13:02, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
Probate added in this edit by User:Vt100. 1939 register added here by User:Wikimandia. I have no access to these sources; but nor do I have any reason to doubt those editors' good faith. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:20, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
Thanks Andy, I don't doubt that the editors concerned posted correct information, it's just a matter of polishing the refs a bit Jimfbleak - talk to me? 14:43, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Talk pages of blocked users

Hi, could you consider not removing stuff from the talk pages of blocked users. These templates are actually really helpful as a CU because people tend to reuse them on all their accounts, and removing them doesn’t seem to have any benefit. TonyBallioni (talk) 13:05, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

I would second that; there is no reason to be mucking about with userpage templates unless they've been deleted (per WP:NOBAN). Primefac (talk) 13:23, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
I find having templates encouraging people to leave messages on the talk pages of indef. banned or long departed users - or worse, promising replies to such messages - to be harmful. The benefits of removing such false encouragements and promises are therefore clear. I also note that WP:NOBAN and {{not around}} each explicitly allow certain types of editing of such pages. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:50, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
Template documentation doesn’t represent policy or any sort of consensus—simply the views of the people who wrote it. NOBAN also isn’t relevant here as I’m not saying that what you’re doing is against any policy (since I don’t think any policy thought this would ever happen.) I’m saying that what you’re doing is pointless at best and makes life difficult for those of us who regularly deal with blocked users at worst. Something doesn’t have to be against a written policy to not be helpful. TonyBallioni (talk) 15:09, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
"template documentation doesn’t represent policy" I didn't mention policy. As to NONBAN, it wasn't me who cited it. I've already explained why my edits were helpful and far from pointless. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:15, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
Might I suggest that if multiple people have told you they don’t find this helpful and that you’re currently the only person on Misplaced Pages making these edits, others might not find them as helpful as you do. In one recent case you removed formatting of a sockmaster who in the past has just copied and pasted his previous talk pages. There are many cases at SPI like this. I’m able to identify the ones I’m familiar with because I know them, but many clerks and patrolling admins aren’t, and these things really do help in sorting out cases there. I’ve given you an example of where this might be unhelpful. I consider this to be a much greater chance of causing issues than someone posting on a talk page of someone who hasn’t edited in a year. I think the best thing here would be to stop doing these yourself, and if someone else agrees with you, let them do it. TonyBallioni (talk) 15:24, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
Might I suggest that the opinions of just the two of you - especially when you make such unconvincing arguments - don't carry the weight that you seem to think you do? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:33, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
I don't really care about the user page edits for inactive users. I don't think they have as big an impact as you do, but they also don't really have that much an impact either way. I would like you to consider stopping this with blocked users. Like I mentioned above, there are a lot of sockmasters who just copy and paste formatting, and changing it makes things more difficult for the people who deal with them at SPI. It also can trigger an email for someone who is trying to leave Misplaced Pages behind them, and then cause them to either create more accounts or bring back memories they might want to avoid. This is what I'd really like you to consider stopping, and I think its a good middle ground between stopping completely and doing it for everyone. TonyBallioni (talk) 15:54, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
In January 2020, discussing a case where I removed outdated instances of a time-limited template ("I am busy with exams") from the pages of people who have not edited in the last two years or more (and then nominated the template for deletion), User:Primefac wrote in reply: "I'd say that your removals (with or without the subsequent TFD) was reasonable.". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:37, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

My portrait

Andy, the portrait of me taken by MS Studios in Ashgabat was paid for by the U.S. government with a U.S. government purchase order with the standard language transferring copyright to the U.S. government, thus the copyright to the photo is owned by the U.S. government, which puts it squarely in the public domain. Please restore the photo to the article you wrote about me. The other portrait is wretched--if there is to be a photo of me in the article please let's use a photo that doesn't make me look like something from a bad sci-fi movie. Thanks! Amustard (talk) 01:46, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

@Amustard: Thank you for the info, but it is standard policy both on Misplaced Pages and on Wikimedia Cpmmons, that such claims must be supported with evidence, supplied by the photographer or copyright holder from their official email address, as described at c:Commons:OTRS. And while the work of US government employees is "squarely in the public domain", I do not accept that that automatically applies to work purchased by the US gov., though of course that can be clarified in the same manner. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 08:04, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
@Pigsonthewing: Andy, reaching back to Sergey Mirzoyev, the photographer in Ashgabat, is not that simple, so let's just drop the issue for now. I have other things going on I need to focus on, as you are well aware. If circumstances permit in the future, I'll see if I can get such "evidence" for you without imposing on the folks at Embassy Ashgabat. Amustard (talk) 13:26, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

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Wikidata weekly summary #434

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    • WQS now supports mwapi service request for Wikibooks (phab:T261125)
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eBay stalking scandal

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Wikidata weekly summary #435

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    • Working on the basic building blocks of the Query Builder towards making it possible to create the first very simple query with it
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    • Fixing an issue with Item creations via the API by blocked users leading to skipped entity IDs (phab:T232620)
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    • WikibaseManifest: created a separate key for local entities and decided what we do about non-local entity sources based on tool-builder feedback (phab:T263527) and specifying the API in OpenApi format (phab:T262919)


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Armenia/Azerbaijan discretionary sanctions

This is a standard message to notify contributors about an administrative ruling in effect. It does not imply that there are any issues with your contributions to date.

You have shown interest in Armenia, Azerbaijan, or related conflicts. Due to past disruption in this topic area, a more stringent set of rules called discretionary sanctions is in effect. Any administrator may impose sanctions on editors who do not strictly follow Misplaced Pages's policies, or the page-specific restrictions, when making edits related to the topic.

For additional information, please see the guidance on discretionary sanctions and the Arbitration Committee's decision here. If you have any questions, or any doubts regarding what edits are appropriate, you are welcome to discuss them with me or any other editor.

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