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Original Talk Correspondence

The standard for Argentina-related articles is 'Argentine'. The usual (less-favoured) alternative is Argentinian. Therefore this page should be moved to Argentine rock. Mtiedemann 09:37, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

• Moved Argentine rock to Argentine rock music -- a bit more specific that way ;) Jmax- 10:42, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Nationality rock is the standard format. Plase don't move pages with standard names without consulting it on the Talk page. Mariano(t/c) 12:16, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Way to many red links.--Jersey Devil 04:56, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Revamping this article

I could expand this article a very great deal. But it would mean pretty much braking up what has been written here. I do not know what the etiquette to follow is in this case. What is written here is mostly good, a couple of things need correction, but in order for me to expand this article much more I would need completely change what is here now, and I'm skiddish of doing this to something someone else or others wrote. Any advice would be appreciated. The dugout 19:19, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

I will be working in the next few days to create a few specific articles. I also will create at least stubs to some of the red inks on this page. Eventually I will expand some of those too. It will just take a little bit, so give me slack. The dugout 06:41, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

No problem! Just don't forget to add them to the Notice Noard. good wiking, Mariano(t/c) 08:53, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Really a Book or is it a Sound Recording?

I'm attempting to clean up problematic ISBNs and have come across the following from this article:

Polimeni, Carlos (2000). Demasiado Artista. Sony Discos. ISBN 037628369424.

As I understand things, if this item has an ISBN, it is an invalid ISBN because it is too long. My hunch, though, is that Sony Discos produces sound recordings, so this item may not have an ISBN at all. Might you be more clever than me at figuring out what is going on here? I'd like to find either a valid ISBN that goes with this book, or better identifying information so if this is a CD or DVD or something an average reader would be able to locate the source. Thanks for any help you can give. Kind Regards, Keesiewonder 11:04, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Update: I am not getting anywhere with this. I am looking for a proper citation for this quote from the article:

For example, ] got together with his old ] partner ] and recorded ''"Tango 4"'', whose name accurately suggests the style of the album.<ref name="polimeni">{{cite book |first= Carlos |last=Polimeni |year=2000 |title=Demasiado Artista |publisher=Sony Discos |id=ISBN 037628369424 {{Please check ISBN|037628369424 (too long)}}}}<!--cannot locate this book--></ref>

In addition to my own looking high and low for this "book," I exchanged correspondence with a journalist who has written about Argentine rock who also was not able to confirm the book's title, author, ISBN, etc. I'd like to get to the bottom of this, so with the current, unverifiable citation above for safe keeping, I will next edit the above fact to one needing a reference ... hoping answers will turn up. I know there are people named Carlos Polimeni who show up on the web and on sound recordings ... but I have not been able to connect the article's facts with a book authored by a Carlos Polimeni. Maybe I need CD jackets? Keesiewonder 11:23, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Mystery solved (maybe). I restored the reference to Carlos Polimeni's Demasiado Artista ('Too Much Artist'), without an ISBN, and included a link to an excerpt that I found on the web. The book is not in the Argentine National Library, but other works of Polimeni are found there. The funny code that was too long to be an ISBN is the UPC code of a reissue collection of Charly Garcia's music, called 'Obras Cumbres Vol. 1', released in 2000 by Sony Discos, that has nothing to do with Polimeni's book. I found it just by Googling for the number part of the bogus ISBN. The point of the Polimeni reference is to justify the statement that the name Tango 4 'accurately suggests the style of the album', which hopefully it does, though the book used is (evidently) hard to find. The album 'Tango V.4' appeared in 1990, so there is no point in citing the Sony Discos record as a reference. Its name means 'Greatest Hits Vol. 1', and it in any case does not contain all the songs from 'Tango V.4'. There is a lengthy discography in Charly Garcia, though without any code numbers, which could be a blessing, given how hard it is to get them right. EdJohnston 05:37, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

This works for me! Since there is no ISBN to cause anyone problems in the article. I saw the web link a week or so ago that you've used as a citation, and in part, didn't go with it myself since there is no date or a source for the quotations on the page, such as the one from Garcia. (Maybe its something Garcia said in an interview or that was printed in a newspaper or on a recording jacket?) I am not yet convinced that Polimeni wrote a book about which Garcia has commented. Polimeni has certainly written something (music, lyrics) that Garcia speaks about. No worries; this one is off our list for now! Thanks! Keesiewonder 11:20, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

• Fleeting afterthought ... so, where does the 2000 come from in the existing citation? Keesiewonder 11:23, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

The 'Obras Cumbras Vol. 1' recording DID come out in 2000, so maybe that is the source of the date. I agree that using an unverifiable book as a reference is not too desirable, so I would not object if you want to take it out. But the number of citations of the possible book is large enough that we now know it's not a record. EdJohnston 14:47, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Polimeni is certainly a rock author, because of 'Bailando sobre los escombros: Historia critica del rock latinoamericano', ISBN 9507862986, available from Amazon. EdJohnston 14:52, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

• Hi EdJ, I do not see any reason to make any changes in our citation of interest. I am not yet following your reasoning in this statement: "But the number of citations of the possible book is large enough that we now know it's not a record." But, I'm more than happy to move on! Thanks for your input on this one! Keesiewonder 23:21, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

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