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Am I doing this right?

This is where I'm supposed to put this stuff, right?

The article wasn't actually just about me. I was going to go through and do writeups on some of the smaller companies in general. See, that's a great tool for designers looking for work - something they usually do on a worldwide scale - and I haven't found anything like that as a tool. As I told one of the other people (I have no clue if they're admin or not. Or if you are, for that matter), my plan was to go through and put a number of things up - the next article was going to be on Ars Sutoria. Followed by a company a friend of ours works for (and yes, I work for Walking Cradles - which means it was quick and easy because I already know about the company). It seemed like a good idea, and something that was lacking when we needed a tool like that a year and a half ago. Instead, it looks like I'll need to start my own database if I want to give designers a tool like that. And that's just sad.

Regarding Unopened messages

Is There a way that unopened (last chance) messages may also be retrieved? Like in a history of some sort? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by MicP (talk • contribs) 21:39, 2 January 2007 (UTC).

From User:Morehdanny

Hi you just deleted two very useful non comercial links (I thought). That I as a teacher find useful. One is from the British Government. The other is from a group in Poland that have created a totally non comercial (as far as I can tell) piece of software that my students enjoy using. I am a beginner at editing and communicating on wikipedia... so forgive me if this is not the way to do it. Still. I'd appreciate it if you reconsidered the previous deletions. I personally would love to get more useful links for students and teachers (that are non comercial) I find them very useful. Thanks Danny — Preceding unsigned comment added by Morehdanny (talk • contribs)

*snicker*

You know what's sad? I clicked that link to check its history: I totally believed that I had deleted that article recently. Happy new year to you, too. (And I'm pretty sure that the Queen Bitch Vandalslayer sceptre belongs to you now.) -- Merope 00:53, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

JFBurton User Page

Your not an administrator and stop acting like you are one. People add stuff to my user page all the time. Grow Up. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by JFBurton (talk • contribs) 19:48, 3 January 2007 (UTC).

Misplaced Pages users are entirely within their purview to warn users of policy violations if they see fit. FisherQueen has done nothing wrong, for the record. --Dr Excessus 21:09, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

I, for one, appreciate the job that FisherQueen and so many others do in helping to keep Misplaced Pages in good shape. She's quick to jump to help out where others simply wish to ignore or choose to impair the work of building an encyclopedia. Agree with Dr Excessus. Philippe Beaudette 22:27, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, guys. You're so sweet to a harmless li'l patroller... you make me feel warm and fuzzy all over. -FisherQueen (Talk) 23:03, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Removed Warnings

Dont tell me what to remove. You have the right to remove things and so do I, leave me alone. JFBurton 12:55, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Very cool userpage & boxes!

Would it be okay if I swiped your toolbox design? Let me know; I'll watch this page. Thanks! -- weirdoactor 18:25, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Please feel free to steal anything you like- that's in the spirit of Misplaced Pages. I stole most of it from others, in any case. -FisherQueen (Talk) 18:28, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! I always like to ask first; sort of like asking a chef if I can put a new twist on their recipe. -- weirdoactor 19:08, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Shiikane

Hi,

You recently placed the {{db-band}} on the Shiikane article. I am writing on your talk page to contest this deletion request, since this is a real article about a band which really exists. The author, Shiikane Online, is not associated with the band, and is simply a fan, who runs a fansite for the band.

Please remove this tag as soon as possible.

Peter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pg2114 (talk • contribs)

Shiikane are a notable band who are developing new music. They have so far made three records and one album and will be making plenty more soon. Pg2114 19:16, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

You don't have to tell me that; only demonstrating notability on the article, which didn't include any information to assert notability, will save it from deletion. If it's already been deleted, your arguments will only help if you make them to an administrator, who has the power to undelete pages. -FisherQueen (Talk) 19:19, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

I did not have enough time to edit the article to include these, since it was deleted minutes after you marked it for speedy deletion. Please could you contact the administrator involved and ask them to restore the article? Pg2114 20:19, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

I am the adminstrator involved, and I will not restore the article. If you can provide reliable sources that document the group's notability, you may resubmit the article. Otherwise, you can request a deletion review. -- Merope 20:23, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Regarding External Link I added to an online book on the historical status of the Klamath River salmon fishery

I read the External Link policy and it fits the guidelines in my reading. Please tell me how it doesn't. Thanks, Peter (plbman) — Preceding unsigned comment added by plbman (talk • contribs)

I'm puzzled by the appropriate response to plbman. I looked at the link he's adding, and it seems useful enough, and not in violation of any policy. Pretty cool site, in fact. But he has added nearly a hundred links to the same web page throughout Misplaced Pages, which smells of spamming and makes me feel all ooky about the link. Comment from a more experienced editor would be useful. -FisherQueen (Talk) 19:41, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Erh. Take it to WP:ANI? I don't know what to make of it, either. -- Merope 19:48, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

This is clear link spamming, no matter how good the quality of the website. WP states that repeatedly adding links to promote a website (commercial or not) is spamming and that is what this user is doing. I'm removing links now and will provide last warning if he persists. Calltech 20:15, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks very much! I like learning how to interpret the policies in new situations. I went to start removing the links, and every one I selected, you had been there before me... that's pretty neat, too. -FisherQueen (Talk) 20:23, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

If it helps, I'm the library director here at Scripps Inst Oceanography and the Fish Bulletin books to which I was linking were a federally funded (LSTA) digital library project to make 178 books on Calif fish and fisheries available to the public. The project was my conception and my motivation was doing it for the public good. If you look, I am linking to individual book URLs that serve as excellent resources for deeper reading for the public on the topics where I linked them from. I'm not promoting the website; I'm linking to PDF books for deeper reading. So if you remove my links, it's the public's loss, not mine. I was helping out to make Misplaced Pages more useful to readers, and linking to online books seems valuable for Misplaced Pages readers. Your call of course, since our digital library efforts stand on their own merit. It is discouraging though since it seems like quick judgements are being made and no one is actually looking at the online books themselves to which I link before removing my links. ..........Peter Brueggeman. Email me if you wish at pbrueggeman@ucsd.edu — Preceding unsigned comment added by plbman (talk • contribs)

I thought the site was very useful, and as you can see from the above edits, I don't feel that I'm experienced enough, or wise enough in the ways of Misplaced Pages policy, to make this call by myself. The problem is that adding links, especially this many links, to a site that you manage is selfpromotion, which is prohibited by Misplaced Pages guidelines. I linked on your talk page to the Administrators' Noticeboard, which is where I posted the question about how your edits fit into Misplaced Pages guidelines. If you want to post there, too, you are welcome to- Misplaced Pages is completely collaborative, and I've stepped aside from this one to let wiser heads make the call. -FisherQueen (Talk) 20:33, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Peter, WP is not a directory of links nor a medium to promote your website, no matter how well intended. Please review the guidelines here WP:COI and WP:SPAM. Being a director of Scripps and promoting your library on WP is a clear conflict of interest. Adding a hundred or so links today to your website is considered link spamming. Calltech 20:39, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Hello, I wasn't promoting the Scripps Library. I was linking to State of Calif published authoritatively-authored books that were made available online for the public good using federal funds through the Calif State Library. The links are not to one website and thus not promotional; the links are to individual books, each of which has its own permanent URL. My intention was to guide Misplaced Pages readers to further online authoritative reading on the topics involved. We know these books get accessed and considerable use via Google searching. I have learned that linking Misplaced Pages articles to individual authoritative online books doesn't fit the Misplaced Pages model. Best wishes, Peter

Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia, not a link farm. It doesn't confer a license to spam even If you believe its not promotional. --Hu12 01:05, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Welcome to VandalProof!

Thank you for your interest in VandalProof, FisherQueen! You have now been added to the list of authorized users, so if you haven't already, simply download and install VandalProof from our main page. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me or any other moderator, or you can post a message on the discussion page. froth 19:55, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Yay! I will use my new tool for good, and try to avoid using it for evil. -FisherQueen (Talk) 19:59, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

...after I learn how to use it. -FisherQueen (Talk) 20:25, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

You know, I think I actually prefer doing it the slow way. Maybe I'll get used to it if I keep working with it. -FisherQueen (Talk) 22:13, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

generic message

No need to post a generic "use the sandbox" message on my talk page. I have been using Misplaced Pages for several years now. RedWolf 22:27, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm still learning how to use VandalProof and shouldn't have hit that button. I've undone the warning and the edit I rolled back. -FisherQueen (Talk) 22:29, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Did you really...

... just threaten to have Guy blocked for vandalism?? Best laugh I've had all day. (Yeah, I've done it, too. I've also gotten the occasional vandalism warning for reverting someone else's vandalism.) -- Fan-1967 23:14, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Don't get me wrong. VandalProof is cool. But I'm like a 16-year-old who got a Testerossa for her birthday... I am not sure if I can handle this much power. I'll learn how to use it reliably... or I'll go back to doing it the old-fashioned way. -FisherQueen (Talk) 23:16, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Oh, man, let's block Guy! That sounds like a larf. And you'll get the hang of it. Maybe. -- Merope 18:57, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

I think I'm starting to get the hang of it. Just have to remember to take it slow and look carefully at what I'm seeing, is all. It's really quite a spiffy tool. -FisherQueen (Talk) 19:02, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Sorry!

Sorry about that - AntiVandalBot and I both reverted James Ritty (a page that had been vandalised), but I got there very shortly after the bot, so I accidentally reverted its revert. Thanks for picking it up so quickly and apologies for clumsiness. Squeezeweasel 18:55, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Living Stream

FisherQueen,

The reason I added a link to eManna was so that people could recognize its relationship to Living Stream. I am NOT a part of Living Stream (or the local church movement), and eManna is not commercial in nature. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.234.146.115 (talk • contribs)

Unusual

You just created a totally blank page, except for a speedy deletion tag on it. Unusual. Is VP playing up? --Deskana (For Great Justice!) 21:24, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

I feel just awful. I speedied it exactly as some Wise and Beautiful Admin was deleting it... and ended up creating a page which existed only to request its own deletion. You know, there's a certain Zen beauty to that... no? No, I guess not. -FisherQueen (Talk) 21:26, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Don't feel too awful about it, wasn't much effort for me to click a few buttons :-P --Deskana (For Great Justice!) 21:33, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

As a vigorous new page patroller, I can say that it happens ALL THE TIME, to people without VP. I've seen you do it before--it just means I'm a wee bit faster.  ;) -- Merope 05:53, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, I can't think of any way to avoid it, so I guess I'll just keep doing my little best to keep Misplaced Pages a useful encyclopedia and as free from crap as possible. You think you're faster than me? Oooo, baby, now it is ON. I'm got the extra power now... I am vandalslaying with extra horsepower! -FisherQueen (Talk) 06:04, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I don't think there is--it's just a thing that happens in the software occasionally. Sometimes you'll get a page saying, "This page has been deleted, do you want to recreate it?", but not always. It's weird.

And you're so on. Just as soon as I'm not, y'know, all liquored up. (I'm pretty sure that "editing Misplaced Pages while intoxicated" is on the Wikiholic test. And probably should be a sign of addiction in general.) -- Merope 06:10, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Girl, it's the middle of the night. You ought to be in bed. Come to think of it, so should I... 'night. -FisherQueen (Talk) 06:15, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

RE Enigma

Common knowledge is'nt always published. If the skys blue, don't call it pink. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Yachtspotter (talk • contribs) 21:20, 7 January 2007 (UTC).

Shadowbot has issues

Please stop adding inappropriate links to Misplaced Pages. It is considered spamming and will be removed. Thanks. Shadowbot 21:38, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

That's odd. Shadowbot, my darling, I haven't added any links at all to Misplaced Pages today, although I've deleted several. -FisherQueen (Talk) 21:39, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Speedy deletion templates

Please only use {{db-bio}} if the page is a biography of a person. There are other templates for bands, companies, etc and you should look at WP:CSD to find the correct one to avoid giving misleading reasons for deletion. Angela. 21:52, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

About your warning ?

External links You appear to be adding a number of links to the same web site. This tends to give the impression that you are promoting a site with which you are affiliated, which is considered spamming. You would be wise if you didn't add any more links to this web site to Misplaced Pages. -FisherQueen (Talk) 21:36, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

yes i add links to same web site. we have a huge gallery about 5000 work of arts. every artist has at least 30 pictures in his/her gallery. why it is wrong ? i made the editings correctly, the links i gave has a lot of pictures of the artists.

Misplaced Pages want us to share information freely, right ? so i share the pictures in my sites. i want people seaching the artists in the net, can find ALL the works of artists easily.

I share information without violates any copyright. Is it so important which sites i link ? Or the important is, the site I link is full of works of arts ?

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ejakabo (talk • contribs)

The key word in your response is "we." If the link that you are promoting is to your own web site, then your activity would definitely fall within Misplaced Pages's definition of spam. If you continue, you may find your web site on the blacklist, unlinkable from Misplaced Pages at all. -FisherQueen (Talk) 12:06, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

The Instance

• Geez. I did a lot of work on The Instance after some discussion with Randy via email. The changes where made to support the argument for deletion. I added a lot of content that was relevant and am reverting your reversion. Nothing was deleted but rather the article was changed to more closely represent a radio article. Aselman 15:55, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

I mistook the added podcast links for spam while using VandalProof- I apologize for the error, which I have reverted. Thank you for pointing out my mistake. -FisherQueen (Talk) 16:03, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the reversion and thans for doing it so quickly. Aselman 16:10, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Inappropriate revert

FisherQueen, please do not revert good-faith edits by established users and leave a {{test}} template on their page. To do so violates WP policy. Thank you. standonbible 17:09, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Wait, that Steve Jobs using the first iPhone for a prank call was REAL? Wow... the things you learn on Misplaced Pages. -FisherQueen (Talk) 17:10, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

You know, I'm seriously reconsidering VandalProof. It's a very neat tool, but I have a way higher error rate using it, and I like my reputation as a reliable contributor. Now I'm deciding whether I want to concentrate on figuring out how to use it more reliably, or go back to the slow way. -FisherQueen (Talk) 21:15, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Not that you asked my opinion - but the slow way was pretty fast, and accurate for you. Philippe Beaudette 21:18, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I'm leaning pretty strongly toward putting VP aside for now and using the methods that were working for me. Clearly there are other folks who are able to use it and keep their error rates low, but even after a week or so of practice, I'm still making too many mistakes with it. I don't want to be one of those people who thinks she's being helpful while stumbling around fucking up Wiki. -FisherQueen (Talk) 21:20, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Maybe the real vandal asskickers don't need VP. I've never used it, and I can't imagine how much I'd bugger up with it. (Says the admin with the rollback feature...) -- Merope 21:24, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

THANK YOU!

For taking the time to give a new user information. You are the only one who did, and I very much appreciate it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tres chic (talk • contribs)

No problem. We all make mistakes as newbies, and starting at Wiki by putting up a page about myself/my company/my band/my cat and seeing it deleted is one of the most common. Doesn't mean you can't stick around and make yourself useful, if Misplaced Pages's goals appeal to you. -FisherQueen (Talk) 22:23, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Short leave of absence

I'm leaving to attend my grandfather's funeral, and will be inactive for most of the weekend. If you're looking to vandalize my userpage... well, have fun. I'll sweep up when I get back. If you're looking to be helpful, Save Indian Family has a lot of my hours invested in it and could use an occasional peek. -FisherQueen (Talk) 22:28, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

If anyone has any questions, I can try to help out. And don't worry, FQ -- I'll make sure your page is clean and vandal-counter updated when you return. -- Merope 03:13, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Save Indian Family - propsed edit to SIF concerns

Hi FisherQueen. I saw your message on Talk:Project Gender Studies about SIF. The tone of the discussion and personal attacks launched at you there are appalling. I've proposed an edit for the SIF concerns section. (The unedited section is probably in violation of WP:COI, WP:NPOV and WP:POVPUSH policies.) Also, somebody created another article Protect Indian Family which is an NGO member of a movement called “SAVE INDIAN FAMILY”. It strikes me that since I can find NO verifiable, outside published sources that SIF fails the notability test. I'm not sure how you would feel about this but I think there's a good argument for the deletion of SIF. Whether you think the article should be reviewed or listed as an AfD, I hope I've been of some help : )--Cailil 00:21, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

I really appreciate your getting involved on Save Indian Family. Frankly, I'm just exhausted after my grandfather's death, and need a little time before jumping into the fray on this emotionally heated article. If you're not up to it either, that's cool- I'll return to the article when I've had a chance to regroup a little bit. For now, though, I need a break from it. -FisherQueen (Talk) 02:32, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Weekend Off

Its about time you had a weekend off, its all you ever seem to be doing(going on wikipedia). JFBurton 13:24, 14 January 2007 (UTC)