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Photographic lenses

Hi, sorry I have taken so long to reply, but I've been away from WP and only just noticed your question (from July) on my talk page. You've probably found out already (or don't need the info anymore) since I've left it so long, but just in case, an "element" is generally a single lens, made from one piece of glass, and a "group" is a group of lenses (elements) that are touching or very close together. If you look at Zeiss Tessar, you can see four elements, and three groups, for instance. --Bob Mellish 17:16, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

TCP: Connection termination

The topic was discussed in the talk page. There was a previous edit war going on, which i noticed and tried to stop. I did try to make it neutral, but your version is a even better. Thank you.

I do have a few concerns, however:

1. You stated there is a two way method of closing a connection? Please describe this! I am unaware of a way to do it in only two ways, aside from the first side ignoring the FIN/ACK, which seems to violate the protocol.

2. Furthermore, there is literature (see the talk page) which supposedly refers to the termination as 3-way, regardless of actual method used.

3. The connection process is pretty much universally described as a three-way handshake, despite the fact that it could be done in more steps. Shouldn't this lend credibility to the description of termination as a three-step process?

Let's talk on the talk page as this is an interesting point: How do we determine how many packets are required to establish or terminate a connection.

--Kevin L'Huillier 06:39, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Disagreement on STCP

Hello. If possible, I would appreciate a quicker response to Talk:Stream Control Transmission Protocol (section 'TCP stream reassembly') so the case can be closed. -- intgr 15:41, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Image:Solar Updraft Tower.png

Thanks for creating Image:Solar Updraft Tower.png; just to let you know that your help is appreciated JdH 17:38, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Completely unrelated to Sadi's comment: you did see the clean version of that image (Image:Solar Updraft Tower clean.png) which could be used on the articles in other languages (I suppose I should have put it on commons instead)? Thanks for note, I appreciate it. :) Cburnett 18:24, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

I guess you could; I think that the sister projects could benefit from it. Trick is that you would have to let them know that it is there; one way of doing that is create a gallery under Commons, and insert links to Commons in the sister projects. You may want to look at Willem Einthoven and Commons:Willem Einthoven to see how that is done. JdH 18:45, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Or put the textless image on the other pages to make it visible with links to english and french hoping someone can translate from one of them. Cburnett 19:53, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Yeoman Rand Tampering

Your an admin now right? If so, please keep an eye on this Rustyblue. He likes to slap images of Yeoman Rand in all the TOS articles, really big annoying ones that have no place there. He even pissed me off by changing the image for The Enemy Within with some stupid crap he found trying to be sneaky about it. I warned him in the past of this on his talkpage but he completely ignores it and continues his bullshit. I think an official warning by an admin threatening a ban or something would be appropriate in this case. At least let him know that Misplaced Pages doesn't allow articles to become a user's personal scrapbook. Since the TV screen shots are on the choppingblock right now, we don't need trolls around here vandalising images to make a stupid point. Thanks. Cyberia23 18:49, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

could you take a look at...

... Talk:Nyquist–Shannon sampling theorem and comment on this content dispute i am having with a fairly recent editor to the article. i think, from your earlier comments on the talk page, that i have some of the same concerns as you. BTW, i created the zero-order hold and first-order hold pages you have on your Things to work on section of your user page. i hope you approve.

my goal of the Nyquist–Shannon sampling theorem is to keep it technically accessable, yet accurate from the POV of the Electrical Engineering discipline (which means we treat the Dirac delta like the limit of the nascent functions and less strictly than as a tempered distribution). but my difficulty with this latest editor is not about that. r b-j 20:59, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

No, it's not. It's about the logic of proofs. I would also value objective commentary on these issues. As a "fairly recent editor" I don't have much experience with how to handle disputes in which someone refuses to respond to particular points, especially when they involve logic. Dicklyon 00:12, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

ISO 3166-1 alpha-3

Hi, sorry that I didn't inform you when I reverted the ISO 3166-1 alpha-3 article. Personally, I don't like the 3-letter country templates, since there's no rule of what the countries' display name should be, so they are arbitrary and any user can change them when they want. And I'd prefer the ISO pages follow the usage of ISO's official country names. You can find the list at ISO 3166-1. Chanheigeorge 22:30, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Then let's make them none arbitrary and put <noinclude> notes on the templates saying it's the ISO 3166-1 name and to not change it unless ISO changes it. How about that? Cburnett 23:14, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

You mean the 3-letter country templates? I don't think that's a good idea. A lot of the people who use them are not aware that they're using ISO codes. And sometimes the official ISO country names are a mouthful, e.g. IRN -> "Iran, Islamic Republic of", while the template now displays  Iran, which is actually better in most cases. Chanheigeorge 00:09, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Not to mention some controversial names chosen by ISO (and by UN), e.g. TWN -> "Taiwan, Province of China" or MKD -> "Macedonia, the former Yugoslav Republic of". Chanheigeorge 00:46, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

So how about {{ISO IRN}} instead? Cburnett 00:58, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

I guess that should be okay if you create these templates. Chanheigeorge 01:49, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Taxis

I am unsure why you have reverted various -taxis topics from redirects to the (fairly short) article taxis to individual articles. As they stand, they are merely dictionary definitions, which do not belong in Misplaced Pages. They should only be split out from the main article (in this case, "taxis") when that article starts getting too big, which I don't expect will happen soon. I have reverted them all to redirect to taxis. By all means expand that article, but I see no gain from having many tiny articles which say nothing more than, for instance, "Geotaxis is a taxis stimulated by gravity", since this fact is already included in taxis. --Stemonitis 08:41, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Fine, if you don't want stubs then delete the redirects and leave the links. Red links are not bad. Redirects exist to increase the chance of finding the correct article but redirecting geotaxis to taxis requires that the geotaxis word not be linked otherwise you will link to the same page. So what happens if someone writes an article for geotaxis? This then depends on them fixing taxis now too and if they don't then geotaxis will be an orphan article.

The status quo (which you brought back) does not encourage anyone to write the article on geotaxis. A stub would encourage more because there is already a start. All around, the visitor loses, IMO. And that's why I changed the redirects to stubs (there was no proper reversion done as that was all original work). And to be honest, I now have less desire to pick one up and write more than a stub on it. Is that what you were aiming for when reverting my work? What's worse: having a stub article or discouraging even seasoned editors from editing? Cburnett 14:03, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Not being an admin., I lack the ability to delete the redirects. For that, you'd have to ask someone else. As I mentioned above (albeit too briefly), the best way forward is to add information to the article taxis. You can do this, I could do this, and any new editor could also do this. Nobody needs to feel put off doing anything. The medium for such information exists, and there's nothing stopping anyone from adding anything. If there's enough information about any particular subtopic, such as geotaxis, then that will become apparent as the parent article taxis grows to accommodate it. What you created weren't even stubs — they were one-line definitions that repeated the content at "taxis". This puts readers off, who are enticed to click on a link with the promise of more information, and find none. That is worse than putting editors off. We often forget to think about things from a reader's point of view, but it's the most important aspect.

Having geotaxis being a redirect only means that taxis should not link to it. Any other article can and not, as you claim, that the article will inevitably be an orphan. If it's only ever going to be linked to from one article, then perhaps the topic isn't that important. I don't think this is the case; I'm sure there must be lots to say about geotaxis, and all other taxes, with plenty of examples, a discussion of the evolutionary importance, etc., etc., etc. So, don't feel put off. I'm not trying to kill the topic. I'm just applying a temporary measure to keep the information in one place. You'll notice that I've left articles like phototaxis and rheotaxis alone, although they could conceivably be merged into taxis as well (this would be a matter of taste, and not worth arguing about). Once you've got that much to say, a separate article is justifiable. Until then, it's not. --Stemonitis 14:48, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Taxis contains a list which is not even remotely the right way to "add information" about geotaxis. To add information requires rewriting the article in non-list form, and believe it or not, that may be too high of a bar for some to care to add in details. I only did what I did because it made no sense to have some unlinked and it snowballed from there to, what I think, remedy the situation.

Not intending to lay a guilt trip on you, but what you did is stop the chance of me writing more about a taxis be restricting it all back into a list. And my desire to do anymore has completely waned as the effort in arguing this vastly exceeds what I want to put into it and, not to mention, that my work on it thus far has been all but erased. Had my effort been for nought, I probably would have made those articles more than they were but since I have to argue my way through the editing...I leave the stagnant taxis to you as I no longer care. Congrats; have fun with it; peace out; and good luck on the biology doctorate. Cburnett 15:50, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Hopefully the new format will make it easier for editors, including yourself, to flesh out the details of specific taxes. You are right that a bald list is not the best way to present the information, so I have abandoned that for a quick prose list, followed by more detailed sections. --Stemonitis 18:08, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Chemotaxis and categories

Hi Cburnett, Thanks for the work on the Chemotaxis page. You have deleted two categories, 'Behavior' and 'Perception'. I agree, that both have more underlined significance in neurology and psychology, however, 'swimming behavior' and 'migratory behavior' is/was frequently used to describe chemotaxis as well as perception has also aspects at receptor level. Therefore I resored the two categories, after checking the keyword-lists belonging to them. If you have any problem with it or you have a stronger evidence against the above mentioned categories please let me know, I am happy with any improval on the page. Thanks again. Best regards from Kohlasz 19:31, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Take a look at Three sheets to the wind

Someone editted this page, Three sheets to the wind, after you created it. Could you take a look at it? Morenooso 02:35, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

PHA ribbon

Hi there, unfortunately I can't find anything that specifically says "periwinkle ribbon". There is the PHA online store where you can see a number of illustrations. For that matter, I don't own a ribbon myself, I just have a wristband. Sorry I couldn't be of further help.

Oh, wait. While the store doesn't seem to sell actual ribbons, they do have this page that is selling a "periwinkle magnetic ribbon for your car". Will that do for your purposes? --Kyoko 22:10, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

I just went ahead and changed the reference link in the article so that it takes people to the page I mentioned. I hope this is acceptable for reference purposes without being seen as spam. --Kyoko 22:32, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

List of The Daily Show guests

Just because it survived AFD once doesn't mean that it should be kept. Tons of articles are only deleted after 2-3 nominations. The AFD closed with "no consensus" either, which means that there was a strong number of people who wanted it gone (as opposed to a more definitive "keep"). But very well. I'll take it to AFD someday. Hbdragon88 23:31, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

I suppose that's a threat... Cburnett 00:03, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

What? It's obviously not a speedy. I prod, you contest, the next step is AFD. Hbdragon88 00:07, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/List of The Daily Show guests sure as hell looks like a consensus to me. I'm not sure which deletion debate you're talking about. Cburnett 00:08, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, misread your comment on my talk page. Hbdragon88 00:12, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Removing images from articles

I have started a new thread on this subject at Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard#Removing_images_on_sight. Feel free to weigh in. --Oden 07:35, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

3RR and copyright

User:Dicklyon keeps adding big block quotes after I have rewritten the article on Lenna (diff). Feel free to deal with it, because I am not reverting another article today (I will probably have to send this to WP:AN/I or WP:AIV). --Oden 08:18, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

No personal attacks

With regards to your comments on talk:standard test image: Please see Misplaced Pages's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks may lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. --Oden 08:49, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

In regard to this diff. Please be civil and assume good faith. --Oden 08:49, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

1RR?

I had a look at your log, and you blocked a total of three people under 2006. I am concerned that, apart from your apparent lack of knowledge of some of our core policies (such as WP:IUP), your knowledge of how to use your admin privileges have become rusty. I don't wish to de-sysop you, but you should seriously brush up on your reading list.

You blocked me for two reverts within 24 hours (01:19, 15 January 2007 and 03:34, 15 January 2007). I know that 3RR is not a fixed rule, but usually the rule is more than three bad-faith reverts in 24 hours. Maybe we should call it 1RR? And since they were good-faith edits (as stated on my talk page, the article talk page and the page history), maybe you should also have a look a those in the future? --Oden 09:37, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Fair use image in user namespace

Hello!

You have used fair use images in your user namespace (Image:Uno Draw 2 card.jpg, Image:Uno Reverse card.jpg, Image:Uno Wild card.jpg and Image:Uno Wild Draw 4 card.jpg in User:Cburnett/GFDL images). Criterion 9 of the Misplaced Pages:Fair use criteria states that "Fair use images may be used only in the article namespace. Used outside article space, they are not covered under the fair use doctrine." I have removed them on these grounds.

Sincerely, Oden 11:04, 15 January 2007 (UTC)