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There's no mention of Yoko's sister Setsuko Ono in the article, for completeness. There's no wikipage for her either. She's an accomplished artist in her own right and recently credited John Lennon with encouraging her to concentrate more on art and less on banking. ] (]) 22:59, 11 January 2021 (UTC) | There's no mention of Yoko's sister Setsuko Ono in the article, for completeness. There's no wikipage for her either. She's an accomplished artist in her own right and recently credited John Lennon with encouraging her to concentrate more on art and less on banking. ] (]) 22:59, 11 January 2021 (UTC) | ||
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The heading for Public Image should be "Public Image" or "Criticism" either are fine. Putting down "Sexism of the Press" is not appropriate. It is an opinion not a fact and has no place in an encyclopedia. Freshacconci has reverted several times now from multiple user edits. | |||
Additionally, the entire public image section needs work from someone a bit more experienced than me. I don't see how Tony Romo is relevant enough to Yoko Ono that it should be included in the article. | |||
The "Public Appreciation" is also strange to have as a heading for an encyclopedia. The entire section reads like a recruitment for a cult of personality. If you read that section you would get the impression Yoko Ono is a popular person, not a widely despised figure. I don't see how anything is that section is relevant to a bio on Yoko Ono. The entire section should be nuked imo. | |||
Parts of this article come off as written by people that have a massive bias towards Yoko Ono or sockpuppets. The entire article needs to be semi-protected and needs to be edited by a neutral experienced user. | |||
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Per GAN 2 comments above.--Aichik (talk) 21:23, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
- Since the source page, http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20139655,00.html , is marked "Copyright © 2014 Time Inc. All rights reserved. Reproduction in whole or in part without permission is prohibited", I have removed the copy that you posted here. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:28, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
- Okay thanks.--Aichik (talk) 18:39, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
Orphaned references in Yoko Ono
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Yoko Ono's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "rs":
- From U2: Gardner, Elysa (9 January 1992). "Review: Achtung Baby". Rolling Stone (621). Retrieved 26 April 2010.
- From Phil Collins: Hedegaard, Erik (4 March 2011). "Phil Collins' Last Stand: Why the Troubled Pop Star Wants to Call It Quits (page 2)". Rolling Stone. Retrieved 13 November 2013.
- From Walls and Bridges: Gerson, Ben (21 November 1974). "Review: Walls and Bridges". Rolling Stone. New York. Retrieved 18 May 2013.
- From Double Fantasy: "Double Fantasy by John Lennon | Rolling Stone Music | Music Reviews". Rollingstone.com. 30 August 2011. Retrieved 9 September 2011.
- From Imagine (album): Gerson, Ben (28 October 1971). "Imagine". Rolling Stone. Retrieved 12 November 2010.
- From Adam Clayton: "U2: Biography". Rolling Stone. Retrieved 1 January 2011.
- From The Joshua Tree: Pond, Steve (9 April 1987). "Review: The Joshua Tree". Rolling Stone (497). Retrieved 28 December 2010.
- From Tricky (musician): "Album Reviews: Tricky – Maxinquaye", Rolling Stone, 2 February 1998.
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 01:04, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
"Cut piece" on the lead
I think the lead is too long. Four paragraphs should be enough per WP:LEADLENGTH. I'm not sure what to trim down, can somebody advise? Ritchie333 21:21, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
- Agreed. It is a tad extensive. Hotcop2 (talk) 22:22, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
- I've trimmed a tiny bit, but I think it's fine. She's accomplished alot in multiple fields. Look at George Harrison's article, which is starred, for a comparison. Or Justin Bieber's who is one-fourth her age.--Aichik (talk) 20:49, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
- It's too long as of March 2020, per Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style/Lead section. It might be possible to merge some of the shorter paragraphs, and remove some material more suited to the body of the article. Jusdafax (talk) 07:26, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
Marriage to Anthony Cox
It says 1962 - 1963 in side bar. Cox and Ono divorced on February 2, 1969. As is stated on his wiki page.
109.152.192.57 (talk) 00:11, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
Hello World — Preceding unsigned comment added by Muybridge dk (talk • contribs) 00:56, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
I moved this here
because checking this claim on the dance chart link to reveals only 4 such hits. The wikipedia chart is not very up-to-date, so if someone knows where to check this, please do so.
- Since 2003, eleven of her songs, mostly remixes of her older work, have hit No. 1 on the US dance chart.
Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 23:17, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
Trivia
I removed some trivia. It's an encyclopaedia, not a gossip column. --TS 02:25, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
- It depends upon how notable the gossip is. I've reinserted and tagged items that need a citation for notability. At least one already has a citation. See .--Nowa (talk) 07:05, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
Bleachers guest appearance
I've never edited a music article before, so I figure I'm out of my depth, but I just notice Ono has guest vocals on the tenth track of the 2014 album "Strange Desire" by the band Bleachers. This article currently lists her last collaboration as 2012. Should this be updated? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.30.15.245 (talk) 06:29, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
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1970s work
Why is the decade when Yoko made some of her most important music completely missing?
not Japanese American?
Break-up_of_the_Beatles says she's Japanese-American is that wrong? Zigui and the Spiders (talk) 16:04, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
- It was discussed here a while back. There's no evidence that she became an American citizen and some editors argued that this precludes calling her American, even though she's obviously a permanent resident. Honestly, I don't know the answer per Misplaced Pages guidelines. Personally, I'd go with Japanese-American. freshacconci (✉) 17:53, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
The term "Japanese-American" means a US citizen of Japanese ancestry (cf African-American). If Yoko Ono never adopted US citizenship, it is simply incorrect to describe her as "Japanese-American". As a holder of a permanent resident visa ("green card") for many years, she has had the option of becoming a US citizen. If she did not do so, that expresses a choice which should be respected. Unless someone can offer evidence that Yoko Ono is an American citizen I propose to correct the statements in this article that refer to her as "American" or "Japanese-American". Longitude2 (talk) 09:59, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
- You're correct. Hotcop2 (talk) 21:46, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
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Updated Photo
Can someone better at sourcing Misplaced Pages-authorized photos find a more updated photo for this Wiki's profile photo? The current one is from pre-2010 and so it is about time for a refresher. Thanks to whoever finds the time for this.Navarrocortez (talk) 23:34, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
- I think it might actually be better to find an earlier photo, rather than a more recent one, to better represent Ono during the period when she was most prominent. {{u|Sdkb}} 08:08, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
McCartney accusations
I don't understand why Yoko has accused Paul McCartney of rewriting history. To me, I think Paul was telling the truth by reversing the writing credits to the five Beatles songs on the "Wings Over America" album to McCartney-Lennon, not Lennon-McCartney, to make it clear that it was he, not John, who wrote them largely or entirely by himself and John had little, if any, songwriting involvement. 203.221.93.47 (talk) 07:21, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
Warzone
There is currently a redirect from Warzone (Yoko Ono album) to Yoko Ono. An article is almost certainly in order. Is there agreement that the redirect should be replaced by an article? Robert McClenon (talk) 21:42, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
No article for Cut Piece
Ono's 1964 Cut Piece is an extremely influential piece of performance art, so I was surprised that it redirects here rather than having its own article. Can someone split it off? Sources are abundant. {{u|Sdkb}} 08:10, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
Overly positive, not neutral
Having read this page my overall feeling was that it was not a neutral page. It just comes across as very positive about Yoko and skimming over any negatives.
Kind of reads like a piece someone has paid to make them look good.
It’s too big for one person to edit but feel like a few people should take a look at it. El dude brother2 (talk) 07:50, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
- Please read WP:NPOV. We don't go out of our way to add negative things to create a false sense of "balance". The article as written is neutral. To add negative items (and it's not clear what you feel is missing) would actually violate neutrality. Yes, some Beatle fans have negative attitudes towards Yoko Ono. The article addresses this. freshacconci (✉) 13:53, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
- No, but El dude brother2 mentions a potential bias in the article and the possibility of undue weight being given to positive factors vs negative. Yoko Ono was, perhaps still is, a controversial figure in popular culture; this is covered in pretty much every reliable source, and she has addressed the issues many times. As far as this article goes, I was always impressed that there is some discussion of the less-glorious points, under "Public image", because it's severely lacking at Paul McCartney (which really is a whitewash, whereas Eric Clapton and David Bowie constructively address controversies in which the subject became embroiled, rather than completely ignoring them).
- I'll give the article a thorough read sometime soon. It could well be that some highly notable points are skipped over or missing entirely – and it's that sort of thing we should address, imo, but not to deliberately spice the text with negativity. Looking at the Public image section now, my first reaction is that there's plenty there that is sufficiently "bad". On the other hand, the statement "Her experimental art was also not popularly accepted" is inadequately cited to an AllMusic list of chart peaks. JG66 (talk) 14:26, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
Sister O Sister
There's no mention of Yoko's sister Setsuko Ono in the article, for completeness. There's no wikipage for her either. She's an accomplished artist in her own right and recently credited John Lennon with encouraging her to concentrate more on art and less on banking. Hotcop2 (talk) 22:59, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
Headings and Sections
The heading for Public Image should be "Public Image" or "Criticism" either are fine. Putting down "Sexism of the Press" is not appropriate. It is an opinion not a fact and has no place in an encyclopedia. Freshacconci has reverted several times now from multiple user edits.
Additionally, the entire public image section needs work from someone a bit more experienced than me. I don't see how Tony Romo is relevant enough to Yoko Ono that it should be included in the article.
The "Public Appreciation" is also strange to have as a heading for an encyclopedia. The entire section reads like a recruitment for a cult of personality. If you read that section you would get the impression Yoko Ono is a popular person, not a widely despised figure. I don't see how anything is that section is relevant to a bio on Yoko Ono. The entire section should be nuked imo.
Parts of this article come off as written by people that have a massive bias towards Yoko Ono or sockpuppets. The entire article needs to be semi-protected and needs to be edited by a neutral experienced user.
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