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There is no such thing as the American empire and never had been. This page is an absurdity. You can't say "it acted imperialistically" and then jump to the conclusion "it WAS imperial!" ] (]) 03:18, 17 September 2020 (UTC) There is no such thing as the American empire and never had been. This page is an absurdity. You can't say "it acted imperialistically" and then jump to the conclusion "it WAS imperial!" ] (]) 03:18, 17 September 2020 (UTC)


It probably does that because this page is what people are thinking of when they type American Empire.
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Gone too far

The American Imperialism page has actually gone too far in one direction. Whilst this talk page was initially created to speak regarding the softness of the article regarding the topic, the entire article has been revamped in the opposite direction. Thus, it is still not a neutral article. In most other professional and encyclopedic versions of articles I have read on Misplaced Pages, historians are cited occasionally to give a point of view, but in this article it is so cluttered with negative historical views of America's foreign policy, you miss out on the actual informative things. A standard middle school textbook does a better job than the current article, which desperately needs to be fixed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.7.66.150 (talkcontribs) 22:41, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

POV lead

This edit caught my eye -- particularly the restored wording which, at a glance, appears to be editorial POV. I don't have time right not to look closely at this, but I see that this has undergone changes recently -- the furthest I have looked back is the substantially different wording back in this version as of a couple of weeks ago. The cited supporting source requires a subscription for access. I'll try to find time to look more closely at this later if nobody else has fixed it by the time I get back to it. Please discuss below as needed. Thanks. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 21:17, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

I happened to look back at this, and I notice that I began it with a bad link. I don't recall making the edit but, AFAICT, the initial link should go to this version of the article. I see that this was changed in the next edit with this edit having an edit summary saying "conforming to source." Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 18:04, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

Wrong title

I search "British Empire", I do not get redirected to "British Imperialism."

I search "American Empire", I get redirected to "American Imperialism".

This manifests an absurd bias, and should be changed.

BrianMDelaney (talk) 22:04, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

The U.S. never had a formal empire, but has acted in imperialistic ways. --Roastedturkey (talk) 13:11, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
If you feel a change is needed, that could be discussed at Talk:American empire or the redirect could be listed at Misplaced Pages:Redirects for discussion. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 13:30, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

There is no such thing as the American empire and never had been. This page is an absurdity. You can't say "it acted imperialistically" and then jump to the conclusion "it WAS imperial!" Gd123lbp (talk) 03:18, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

It probably does that because this page is what people are thinking of when they type American Empire.

Page name change

The term "imperialism" is given it's own new definition at the start of this page. It is not imperialism in the traditional sense. Therefore I think a more appropriate name is needed. Clearly we are talking about an incidious form of cultural influence permeating from the nation of the USA.

I suggest a better name would be: American globalisation or Global influence of the USA Gd123lbp (talk) 03:32, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

So, you want to change the name of the article because the text doesn't reflect it properly? That's a reason to edit the text, not to change the name to something else which the Text also doesn't adequately reflect.Mdw0 (talk) 05:41, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

I am not suggesting an alternative to the text, I am suggesting an alternative title based on that text. For example if you needed to describe an orange in an article but titled the article "apple" would you change the title to orange or edit the entire article to fit the title? Gd123lbp (talk) 01:56, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

When an article strays off course somewhat, the solution isn't to double down on it and just change the article's topic and title with it. "Imperialism" and "imperialist" occur 99 times in the article, and are discussed in depth. Perhaps if you mentioned and related to apples 99 times while discussing an orange, your article should indeed be titled "apple". Prinsgezinde (talk) 23:49, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

what is the purpose of the section on "American exceptionalism"?

There seem to be no direct links to the topic of this article, which is imperialism. Also, the notion of exceptionalism was throughout U.S. history used to justify both imperialism and opposition to imperialism. It is also a very short and incoherent section. Could this be deleted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdn1899 (talkcontribs) 12:52, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

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