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| :I agree, obviously. And I have a much longer history of interaction with both editors than you do. But right or not, trust me that I am telling you in good faith that you should not talk about anyone's possible bias or anything else that can be perceived as a personal attack or personal commentary, or you are basically handing them ammo to use against you on a silver platter. ] (]) 19:45, 16 March 2021 (UTC) | :I agree, obviously. And I have a much longer history of interaction with both editors than you do. But right or not, trust me that I am telling you in good faith that you should not talk about anyone's possible bias or anything else that can be perceived as a personal attack or personal commentary, or you are basically handing them ammo to use against you on a silver platter. ] (]) 19:45, 16 March 2021 (UTC) | ||
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| You have been sanctioned, in part, due to the ''latest'' complaint at ANI () which also features yourself. It's obvious that my logged warning to you on Feb. 19 () did not achieve the desired effect. Aggressive editing (though, granted, not one-sided) continues. ] problems continue. Seemingly impenetrable ] problems related to which also continue, even in the aforementioned ANI discussion, despite the efforts of multiple admins to make you cognizant of this. I'm sorry, but editing in this way in such a fraught topic area isn't sustainable. If you wish to appeal this sanction, please skip the step of doing so on my talk page and go on to file it formally, instead. | |||
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WP:ARBPIA warning logged
Wikieditor19920, to follow up on my warning to you at Talk:Palestinian enclaves (ping attached), I'm letting you know that I'm logging a warning to you about dialing it down considerably in any and all ARBPIA matters. Because this is an especially fraught topic area, a certain level of, shall I say, fīnesse, is expected in so far as dispassionate conduct is concerned. Aggression and derision are not to be tolerated for this topic area. So, I hope you take this as a wakeup call to improve considerably on that front, because that is what's required. Otherwise, as said, the chances for sanctions are high. Note that similar warnings may be issued to other participants in that discussion. Thanks in advance for your close attention to this matter. El_C 21:23, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
Discretionary sanctions
This is a standard message to notify contributors about an administrative ruling in effect. It does not imply that there are any issues with your contributions to date.
You have shown interest in the Arab–Israeli conflict. Due to past disruption in this topic area, a more stringent set of rules called discretionary sanctions is in effect. Any administrator may impose sanctions on editors who do not strictly follow Misplaced Pages's policies, or the page-specific restrictions, when making edits related to the topic.
For additional information, please see the guidance on discretionary sanctions and the Arbitration Committee's decision here. If you have any questions, or any doubts regarding what edits are appropriate, you are welcome to discuss them with me or any other editor.
Hi, Wikieditor19920. I see your alert for this area just expired, so here's your new one. Bishonen | tålk 21:43, 19 February 2021 (UTC).
Discussion at WP:ARCA
Hi again, Wikieditor19920. This is just to notify you of a discussion at WP:ARCA that I launched following a query from Shrike about my logged warning to you above. I'd like to stress that this clarification request was posted by me without prejudice to you in any way (whatsoever). Anyway, the discussion is at: WP:ARCA#WP:AWARE and logged warnings (and topic area regulars). El_C 19:33, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- @El C: OK, I am going to stay out of this one and focus on content not politics/bureaucracy. I think my strength is in the former not the latter, and I understood the reason for your warning. Thanks for the heads up. Wikieditor19920 (talk) 19:34, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- Wikieditor19920, you bet. Regards, El_C 19:42, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
Clarification request closed and archived
The clarification request you were a party to, Clarification request: Discretionary sanctions, has been closed and archived. You can view a permalink of the here. For the Arbitration Committee, Dreamy Jazz 19:48, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
WP:ANI
Since you have never edited Cancel culture or its talkpage, it is very obvious that you have inserted yourself into that ANI report purely because you have a previous dispute with Bacondrum and are trying to get them sanctioned. When I have seen you at other articles recently, I thought you had improved your combative nature, but I was clearly wrong. I strongly suggest you stay away from that editor, and it may be a good start to strike out that "vote" on a dispute that has nothing to do with you. Black Kite (talk) 23:10, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
- Black Kite I'd actually prefer to see Bacondrum stop the same behavior that led to our having issues. I'm seeing a lot of the same things that I found frustrating in his interactions with Crossroads. But I'll reframe my vote as a suggestion to Bacondrum on how to move forward. Wikieditor19920 (talk) 23:15, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
- Good idea. Thank you. Black Kite (talk) 23:17, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
ANI
Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Wikieditor19920_and_repeated_personal_attacks nableezy - 13:23, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
- Can you please stop removing comments when you get an edit conflict? nableezy - 14:43, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
Alert
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Thank you
On behalf of Steamboat2020 and myself, thank you for all of your help on the Arab States and Israel article. Given our recent interactions with Selfstudier, both of us had become fed up with his disruptive behavior on the article. Your edits have greatly improved the article as well. Something Steamboat and I have tried to get Selfstudier to do, but obviously, his anti-Israeli bias prevented him from doing so the past two months on making the article better. I've told him many times to provide a source countering the article's existence, but he couldn't do that one basic thing. Thank you so much. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 14:49, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
- Glad you found my edits helpful, and I agree the user you mentioned has been following an unhelpful approach. I would suggest not mentioning or insinuating anything about bias on the part of another editor. It will only get in the way of your efforts to improve an article. If someone accuses you of bias, don't follow suit. Wikieditor19920 (talk) 14:52, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
- The bias is based on fact, not an insinuation. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:13, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
- I got it, I just want to see you continue to do well in this area. Glad I could help. Wikieditor19920 (talk) 17:27, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
- The bias is based on fact, not an insinuation. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:13, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
Another thing. You're right about nableezy, but Selfstudier should also be topic banned from editing articles on the Arab-Israeli conflict. He has a history of being disruptive. Evidence has been of our engagement with him and on his talk page where he was warned of such behavior. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 19:44, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
- I agree, obviously. And I have a much longer history of interaction with both editors than you do. But right or not, trust me that I am telling you in good faith that you should not talk about anyone's possible bias or anything else that can be perceived as a personal attack or personal commentary, or you are basically handing them ammo to use against you on a silver platter. Wikieditor19920 (talk) 19:45, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
Notice that you are now subject to an arbitration enforcement sanction
The following sanction now applies to you:
You are indefinitely topic banned from editing or discussing anything to do with the WP:ARBPIA topic area, broadly construed.
You have been sanctioned, in part, due to the latest complaint at ANI (permanent link) which also features yourself. It's obvious that my logged warning to you on Feb. 19 (diff) did not achieve the desired effect. Aggressive editing (though, granted, not one-sided) continues. WP:CIR problems continue. Seemingly impenetrable WP:IDHT problems related to which also continue, even in the aforementioned ANI discussion, despite the efforts of multiple admins to make you cognizant of this. I'm sorry, but editing in this way in such a fraught topic area isn't sustainable. If you wish to appeal this sanction, please skip the step of doing so on my talk page and go on to file it formally, instead.
This sanction is imposed in my capacity as an uninvolved administrator under the authority of the Arbitration Committee's decision at WP:ARBPIA4#Final decision and, if applicable, the procedure described at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions. This sanction has been recorded in the log of sanctions. If the sanction includes a ban, please read the banning policy to ensure you understand what this means. If you do not comply with this sanction, you may be blocked for an extended period, by way of enforcement of this sanction—and you may also be made subject to further sanctions.
You may appeal this sanction using the process described here. I recommend that you use the arbitration enforcement appeals template if you wish to submit an appeal to the arbitration enforcement noticeboard. You may also appeal directly to me (on my talk page), before or instead of appealing to the noticeboard. Even if you appeal this sanction, you remain bound by it until you are notified by an uninvolved administrator that the appeal has been successful. You are also free to contact me on my talk page if anything of the above is unclear to you. El_C 14:50, 19 March 2021 (UTC)