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AS IT IS A COMPARISON TO AND NOT OF THIS PERSON IT IS INCORRECTLY INCLUDED IN THIS PAGE (AMANDA TODD) ] (]) 09:39, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
AS IT IS A COMPARISON TO AND NOT OF THIS PERSON IT IS INCORRECTLY INCLUDED IN THIS PAGE (AMANDA TODD) ] (]) 09:39, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
:The source discusses Amanda Todd, and although there is a comparison to the other case it is relevant to this article. ] (]) 18:34, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
:The source discusses Amanda Todd, and although there is a comparison to the other case it is relevant to this article. ] (]) 18:34, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
== Semi-protected edit request on 25 March 2021 ==
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Semi-protected edit request on 12 December 2017
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In the Reaction section of the article, it could be noted that Paul O'Neill, composer and producer of Trans-Siberian Orchestra and Savatage, wrote a song inspired by the events of Todd's suicide and released it in his 2015 Trans-Siberian Orchestra album "Letters from the Labyrinth" titled "Not The Same". The source is an interview with O'Neill by an avid fan of the band.
O'Neill: I wrote "Not the Same" because the fact that Amanda Todd had moved three times and kids had watched her get beat up and nobody moved. It's amazing how bullying has gotten so out of control. All these songs have a purpose and as we've discussed before, Brad, the arts have an unbelievable power. I hate bullying. There is no need for it. The guy who bullied Amanda Todd had a mental illness, but the fact that fifty kids could stand around and watch as they see this girl who they know is hurting and see kids beat her into a pulp and leave her in a ditch. And no one stood up for her and no one went back for her blows my mind. Nbrown317 (talk) 01:35, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
@Nbrown317: Not done. The interview is hosted on social media. That's a bit of a problem. The bigger issue is the fact that, since it wasn't conducted by a working journalist, there was probably no professional editorial oversight. (And since you correctly called Brad Parmenter "an avid fan of the band," he'd be biased although that probably wouldn't be a big deal since we'd emphasize O'Neill's words.) See our policy on reliable sourcing because I wouldn't be surprised if there were a media outlet that wrote about this. These concerns would have probably been easier to address had the song been a hit but from what I can tell, it wasn't released as a single. CityOfSilver05:31, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
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PLEASE MOVE THIS SECTION --
"Mainstream media
Michelle Dean of The New Yorker compared Todd's death to the suicide of Tyler Clementi, an LGBT student at Rutgers University who jumped to his death from the George Washington Bridge after his roommate encouraged friends to watch a live stream of Clementi kissing another man. In an early piece questioning the assumptions of perpetrators of nonconsensual pornography, she quotes Mary Anne Franks:
Women have become, as Franks put it, "unwilling avatars", unable to control their own images online, and then told to put up with it for the sake of "freedom", for the good of the community. And then they are incorrectly told, even if the public is behind them, that they have no remedies in the law. They are shouted down by people with a view of freedom of speech more literal than that held by any judge.
and concludes:
... whatever Amanda Todd might have been thinking, whatever else might be true, she did get one thing out of this: Amanda Todd did manage to, just once, tell her own story. She got to drown out the version of her that strangers had put out on the Web. It's a small comfort. But it was perhaps the only one she had left."
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Not done. The interview is hosted on social media. That's a bit of a problem. The bigger issue is the fact that, since it wasn't conducted by a working journalist, there was probably no professional editorial oversight. (And since you correctly called Brad Parmenter "an avid fan of the band," he'd be biased although that probably wouldn't be a big deal since we'd emphasize O'Neill's words.) See our policy on reliable sourcing because I wouldn't be surprised if there were a media outlet that wrote about this. These concerns would have probably been easier to address had the song been a hit but from what I can tell, it wasn't released as a single. CityOfSilver 05:31, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
Undone by me. There's nothing in the article discussing discussing relations between the two countries. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 23:58, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
