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T.I. vs. T.I.P.
Studio album by T.I.
Released	July 3, 2007
Recorded	2006–07
Genre	Hip hop
Length	72:44
Label	Grand Hustle Asylum Atlantic
Producer	Clifford "T.I." Harris (exec.) Jason Geter (exec.) Kannon "Caviar" Cross Just Blaze Mannie Fresh Lil' C Wyclef Jean Jerry 'Wonder' Duplessis Sedeck "All Hands on Deck" Jean Keith "Lil' Wonda" Duplessis Kevin "Khao" Cates Bao Quoc Pham Steve Holdren Nate "Danja" Hills The Runners Tony Galvin Eminem Jeff Bass Keith Mack Timbaland
T.I. chronology
King (2006) T.I. vs. T.I.P. (2007) Paper Trail (2008)
Singles from T.I. vs. T.I.P.
"Big Things Poppin' (Do It)" Released: May 29, 2007 "You Know What It Is" Released: July 10, 2007 "Hurt" Released: October 5, 2007

T.I. vs. T.I.P. is the fifth studio album by American rapper T.I., released on July 3, 2007 through Grand Hustle Records, Asylum Records and Atlantic Records. Recording sessions for the album took a year and a half to record towards early-2007, T.I. stated and confirmed in an interview with MTV News. Production was handled by several record producers, including Kannon "Caviar" Cross, Just Blaze, Mannie Fresh, Lil' C, Wyclef Jean, Jerry 'Wonder' Duplessis, Sedeck "All Hands on Deck" Jean, Keith "Lil' Wonda" Duplessis, Kevin "Khao" Cates, Timbaland, Bao Quoc Pham, Steve Holdren, Nate "Danja" Hills, The Runners, Tony Galvin, Eminem, Jeff Bass, and Keith Mack, among others. To date, it is the only T.I. album not to feature production from DJ Toomp.

The album debuted at number one on the US Billboard 200 chart, selling over 470,000 copies in its first week. It also achieved nearly respectable international charting and produced the one hit single that attained chart success, including the hit single "Big Things Poppin' (Do It). The album was platinum by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA).

Upon its release, T.I. vs. T.I.P. received mixed reviews from music critics. T.I. vs. T.I.P. was nominated for a Grammy Award for Best Rap Album, losing to Kanye West's Graduation at the 50th Annual Grammy Awards The album won the American Music Award for Favorite Rap/Hip-Hop Album at The American Music Awards of 2007. T.I. also won the American Music Award for Favorite Rap/Hip-Hop Artist at The American Music Awards of 2007.

Background

Shortly after the release of his big screen acting debut film ATL and his critically acclaimed fourth studio album King, T.I.'s friend, personal assistant, and an employee of his Grand Hustle Records, Philant Johnson was shot dead after a nightclub brawl between T.I.'s entourage and some Cincinnati thugs. After Johnson's death, T.I. mentioned that the business of rapping no longer felt good and admitted that he was seriously considering quitting music altogether. "This is my life, this is the struggle I had to go through to bring myself to release another album," said T.I. "After all the stuff I went through following the success of King, it took a lot to even muster the effort or even care enough about the world outside my circle to even care about doing another album. "All I did was take notes and record it along the way," T.I. reflected.

Concept and Recording

T.I. vs. T.I.P. a conceptual album, exploring both his T.I. and T.I.P. alter egos, the former being a suave, level-minded CEO and the latter being a hood-friendly former dope boy. "Sometime people might see me act a certain way one time and another way one another time. They might not believe the same cat you see dressed so sharp and winning awards and speaking eloquently is the same cat you see fist-fighting with hoodlums outside a nightclub. This album will be an explanation of all of this." T.I. stated that the album would give listeners doses of T.I. and T.I.P. solo records as well as the two collaborating on the same track. T.I. stated "I'm not just making an album, I'm making f---in' opera here."

The album was mostly complete by April 12, 2007. T.I. confirmed guest appearances by recorded with Nelly, Ciara, and Eminem. The song with Eminem, "Touchdown," explores both of their dual identities, including Eminem's Slim Shady persona. T.I. stated the song is "out of Eminem's norm, if Eminem has a norm."

Release and promotion

Promo singles

"Touchdown" was the first and only official promotional single to be released from T.I. vs. T.I.P.. The single entered the Bubbling Under Hot 100 Singles chart at number 9, and it charted at number 96 on the Pop 100 chart. The song was only released as an airplay single. It received considerable airplay on Monday Night Football during the 2007 NFL season.

Singles

"Big Things Poppin' (Do It)" was the first official single to be released from T.I. vs. T.I.P.. The single entered the Billboard Hot 100 at number 9, it charted at number 7 on the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs chart, it charted at number 2 on the Hot Rap Tracks chart, it charted at number 20 on the Pop 100 chart, it charted at number 8 on the Hot Digital Songs, it charted at number 34 on the Hot Ringtones chart, and at number 9 on the Rhythmic Top 40 chart. The song was #66 on Rolling Stone's list of the 100 Best Songs of 2007. The Recording Industry Association of America certified the single Gold. The single attained respectable international charting. In Canada the single entered the Canadian Singles Chart at number 75, in Japan the single entered the Japanese Singles Chart at number 5, and in New Zealand the single entered the New Zealand Singles Chart at number 8. The Recording Industry Association of New Zealand certified the single Gold on August 23, 2009, selling over 7,500 copies. The song was written by T.I. and produced by Mannie Fresh. The single was released on May 29. The clean version of the song is called "Big Things Poppin' (Do It)".

"You Know What It Is" was the second official single from the album. The single entered the Billboard Hot 100 at number 34, it charted at number 11 on the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs chart, it charted at number 5 on the Hot Rap Tracks chart, it charted at number 62 on the Pop 100 chart, it charted at number 48 on the Hot Digital Songs, and at number 9 on the Rhythmic Top 40 chart. In Canada the single entered the Canadian Singles Chart at number 61.

"Hurt" was the third and final official single from the album. The single entered the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs chart at number 89, and at number 8 on the Hot Rap Tracks chart. The single features Busta Rhymes and newcoming Grand Hustle artist Alfamega.

Critical reception

Professional ratings

Aggregate scores
Source	Rating
Metacritic	61/100
Review scores
Source	Rating
AllMusic
The A.V. Club	C+
Entertainment Weekly	(B)
Okayplayer
Pitchfork Media	(6.4/10)
PopMatters	(7/10)
Rolling Stone
Stylus Magazine	(C)
Tiny Mix Tapes
XXL

Upon its release, T.I. vs. T.I.P. received mixed reviews from music critics. It holds a score of 61 out of 100 on Metacritic, indicating generally favorable reviews from critics. AllMusic writer Andy Kellman gave the album a 3 out of 5 stars stating "the MC constructs an entire album around the penthouse and pavement concept, dividing the program into three acts: T.I.P. (seven tracks), T.I. (seven tracks), and T.I. vs T.I.P. (four tracks). This is also signified in the album's outer sleeve and booklet photos. After the sustained greatness through Trap Muzik, Urban Legend, and King, a fall-off of some degree had to be expected -- especially after reaching the top after a steady climb -- and that's exactly what happens. Though he undeniably remains one of the top MCs, T.I. tends to either reheat familiar material with less fire or tread dangerously close to unrelatable Kingdom Come-like "Look at who's obnoxiously shedding his underdog status!" routines (as on "My Swag"). The productions similarly do not match up to past successes, and even some of obvious choices for singles fall short of past tracks that were never thought to be released as singles. The album is generally enjoyable, and it's doubtful T.I. has to worry about being dethroned within the near future." Nathan Rabin of The A.V. Club stated "T.I.'s honey-dripping Southern drawl and outlaw swagger is irresistible in bite-sized doses, but it isn't enough to sustain an entire album. This holds true for his ambitious yet muddled new project, T.I. Vs. T.I.P, a three-act concept album that clocks in at just over 73 minutes. Sonically, the album has a frantic, indistinct busyness that all too often passes for excitement and momentum. The album's first third concentrates on T.I.P., the second on T.I., and the third on an epic battle between the rapper and his flamboyant alter ego. T.I.P. is ostensibly T.I.'s belligerent, untamed id, but in a blind taste test, nine out of 10 hip-hop heads would have difficulty telling them apart. In the grand hustling tradition of half-assed concept albums, Vs. boasts an overarching premise that's fuzzy to the point of meaninglessness until the climactic final confrontation. On Vs., one of the South's hottest rappers declares war with his dark side. Maybe next time he'll finally wage combat with a more worthwhile adversary, like bloated album lengths or the homogenizing effects of major-label politics."

Neil Drumming of Entertainment Weekly states "the Atlanta native breaks his fifth album, T.I. vs. T.I.P., into three acts depicting an ideological battle between split personae: the irascible thug T.I.P. and the nouveau-riche recording artist T.I. It ain't Shakespeare, but the dual protagonists make for an intriguing bout." Tom Breihan of Pitchfork Media noted "T.I.'s new album, T.I. vs. T.I.P. operates on the thin and dubious concept that T.I. the businessman and T.I.P. the unreformed hustler are two completely different entities, and that the strain of balancing the two personas is enough to tear Clifford Joseph Harris Jr. apart. Apparently, those two sides aren't as indivisible as they once seemed. T.I. first explored this dichotomy on Trap Muzik's "T.I. vs. T.I.P.", crafting an argument that movingly dramatized his internal struggle. That struggle also serves as the concept for the new album: T.I.P. gets the first seven tracks, T.I. the next seven, and the two sides spend the last four songs hashing out their differences. It's an interesting conceit, but it doesn't really work as a hook for an entire album, and the record's exhaustingly long running time pushes the conceit far past the breaking point. For one thing, it's a pacing disaster; by lining up all his sugary for-the-ladies tracks in a row, T.I. leaves a long dead-streak in the second half of the album. For another, it plays against his strengths. His music works best when both sides of his personality are allowed to co-exist in the same track. When they're separated, they both sound emaciated and half-formed. And he never quite commits to the concept. If T.I. represents the rapper's pop half, why do the album's first two singles come from the T.I.P. section? If the album's final stretch is meant to unite both sides, why do they confront each other in song only once, on the second verse of "Respect My Hustle"? Even if the concept falls flat, though, T.I. vs. T.I.P. still warrants a listen, if only because T.I. seems constitutionally incapable of releasing an album full of uncompelling music. As a rapper, he's still a dominant voice; his slurry, guttural drawl is a great instrument, and always keeps it deep in the track's pocket, occasionally whipping out tricky double-time patterns or murmuring singsong melodies. The album is perhaps best heard in chunks; only a few of these songs wouldn't sound great on shuffle. Heard as a piece, though, the album's momentum sputters and dies more than once; after a few consecutive listens, T.I. sounds dour and joyless, like he's just punching the clock. T.I. vs. T.I.P. may be self-obsessed and self-indulgent, but maybe T.I. needed to make this album to keep himself interested. Let's hope he's gotten it out of his system."

Colin McGuire of PopMatters states that the album "overshadows any work he has previously done by keeping his Southern hip-hop roots intact while putting just enough attention on the hooks that one could easily find half of these songs that paint T.I. vs. T.I.P's canvas on your favorite Hot 100 radio station. And he does it better than he has ever been able to do it before. Harris has come a long way from initially snapping back as the rubber band man. And now, with another hip-hop masterpiece under his belt, maybe Cohen can have a laugh himself as well." Ian Cohen of Stylus Magazine stated "The biggest failing of T.I. vs. T.I.P.: though his singles are obsessed with knowledge of self and others, during the span of a seemingly endless album that centers around an identity crisis, T.I. mostly fails to realize the difference between introspection and self-absorption. It's more of a hastily assembled construct grafted onto the persona of a generic trap star who doesn't seem capable of taking real artistic chances. In his mind, anyone who criticizes T.I. is "just another hater who's broke again," waiting for some backpacker epiphany that will never come, like Little Brother becoming commercially relevant or Freddie Foxxx coming out of hiding to lyrically knuckle this guy down. It's like T.I.'s been speaking in code to us all along: What you know about that? You know what it is. You don't know me. But you know what? After spending hours with T.I. vs. T.I.P. chasm-like emptiness, I can't see why anyone would care." Nick Marx of Tiny Mix Tapes noted "After reaching his creative apex, is there a more predictable and plodding step down for an artist than a concept album? Did anyone even know (or care) that the two iterations of Clifford Harris' moniker represent, respectively, his business and street sides? T.I. vs T.I.P. is mercifully light on the requisite skits illustrating its dichotomy, but you almost wish there were more of them to explain the album's weird alchemy of simultaneously overwrought and undercooked production and flaccid, self-absorbed lyricism." Brendan Frederick of XXL Magazine notes "Atlanta rapper Clifford Harris opened this old wound four years ago on "T.I. vs. T.I.P.," a highlight from his sophomore opus, Trap Muzik, where T.I.P., his reckless, shit-talking core, battled T.I., the consummate professional/smooth operator. After a tumultuous 2006 filled with highs (King solidified his place as one of hip-hop's illuminati) and lows (the senseless murder of his best friend), Tip re-examines his schizophrenic psyche on his fifth album, T.I. vs. T.I.P. Call it trap therapy. Hopefully, someday we'll find out what really makes T.I. tick."

Accolades

At the 50th Annual Grammy Awards, T.I. was nominated with a total of three nominations, including Grammy Award for Best Rap Album, Grammy Award for Best Rap Solo Performance and Grammy Award for Best Rap Song for the single "Big Shit Poppin' (Do It)". The album won T.I. the American Music Award for Favorite Rap/Hip-Hop Album at The American Music Awards of 2007. T.I. also won the American Music Award for Favorite Rap/Hip-Hop Artist at The American Music Awards of 2007.

Commercial performance

T.I. vs. T.I.P. debuted at number one on the US Billboard 200, selling 470,000 copies in its first week of release, according to Nielsen SoundScan. This become T.I.'s second consecutive US number-one debut and his fourth US top-ten album. The album also charted at number one on the Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums and the Top Rap Albums charts. In its second week, the album remained at number one on the chart, selling an additional 185,000 copies. In its third week, the album slipped to number three on the chart, selling 94,000 more copies. In its fourth week, the album slipped to number five on the chart, selling 65,000 more copies. On August 30, 2007, the album was certified platinum by the Recording Industry Association of America for sales of over a million copies in the United States. Although T.I. vs. T.I.P. hasn't managed to sell more copies than the rapper's previous effort, it is nevertheless a commercial success, selling over 1.5 million copies in the United States, and even appeared again at the bottom of the Billboard 200 during the release week of Paper Trail.

In Canada, the album entered the Canadian Albums Chart at number seven, in France the album entered the French Albums Chart at number 108, in Japan the album entered the Japanese Albums Chart at number 21, in New Zealand the album entered the New Zealand Albums Chart at number 37, and in Switzerland the album entered the Swiss Albums Chart at number 59. In Canada, the Canadian Recording Industry Association certified the album gold for sales of over 50,000 copies in Canada.

Track listing

Notes

• signifies an additional producer.
• signifies a co-producer.

Sample credits

Exclusives

T.I. released his Bonus DVD to T.I. vs. T.I.P. This DVD is only in exclusive double-pack in BET Edition available at Wal-Mart or Sam's in its edited version.

DVD features are:

• ACCESS GRANTED: "Big Things Poppin"
• 106 & PARK: T.I. Interview
• 2006 HIP-HOP AWARDS: "Top Back" Performance
• BET PROMO: T.I. Exposure

Music Videos:

• "Rubberband Man"
• "Big Things Poppin'"
• "Hurt'"

Target released an exclusive as well, including a bonus DVD which featured T.I. vs. T.I.P.: Conflict Resolution a full version of the therapy T.I. and T.I.P. receive in many of the commercials.

Personnel

Credits for T.I. vs. T.I.P. adapted from Allmusic.

• Wilner Alexandre – assistant engineer
• Jamaal Andrews – bass
• Elvis Aponte – assistant engineer
• Marcella "Ms. Lago" Araica – engineer, mixing
• Jeff Bass – producer
• Leslie Brathwaite – mixing
• David Brown – tracking
• James Burk – piano
• Tony Campana – engineer
• Elliott Carter – engineer, producer
• Kevin Cates – producer
• Lyor Cohen – vocals
• Kannon "Caviar" Cross – producer
• Mike DeSalvo – engineer
• Jerry Duplessis – percussion, producer
• Keith "Lil Wonda" Duplessis – producer
• Eminem – mixing, producer
• Mannie Fresh – producer
• Lanre Gaba – A&R
• Tony Galvin – arranger, keyboards, producer, programming
• Chris Gehringer – mastering
• Jason Geter – A&R, executive producer, vocals
• Robert Gold – photo production
• Julie Greenwald – vocals
• Patrick Hoeck – photography
• Steven Holdren – producer
• Brad "Dirt" Horne – engineer
• Sedeck Jean – instrumentation, producer
• Wyclef Jean – producer
• Just Blaze – producer, vocals
• Hannah Kang – A&R
• Gimel "Young Guru" Katon – mixing
• Michael Kyser – vocals
• Lil' C – producer
• Kevin Liles – vocals
• James Lopez – marketing consultant
• Lex Lucazi – piano
• Keith Mack – producer
• Dennis D-moe moorehead – Keyboards
• Douglas Peterson – A&R
• Charles Pettaway – strings
• Bao Quoc Pham – producer
• Sara Pine – photo production
• Joel Powell – bass
• Luis Resto – keyboards
• Terrell Sass – drums, organ
• Ray Seay – mixing
• Corey "Oz" Simon – producer
• Marsha St. Hubert – A&R
• T.I. – producer, executive producer
• Byron Thomas – drums, engineer
• Justin Trawick – mixing assistant
• Joe Warlick – engineer
• Idris "Baby Shaq" Washington – assistant
• Ryan West – bass, tracking, vocals
• Shane "Bermy" Woodley – engineer
• Andrew Wright – engineer
• Howard Wright – engineer, producer

Charts

Certifications

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External links

• T.I. vs. T.I.P. at Discogs
• T.I. vs. T.I.P. at Metacritic
• at Verzuz battle

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