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User:BenBurch

Suspected meatpuppeteer

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Suspected meatpuppet

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ClemsonTiger

Evidence

These two users have a meatpuppet relationship. Wherever one goes, the other follows. They are constantly pushing a left-wing POV on politically related articles, particularly Free Republic, Protest Warrior and Democratic Underground. They routinely violate WP:RS in the process of their campaign against WP:NPOV in these articles. Anyone who attempts to defend NPOV in these articles is targeted for ridicule and personal attacks, in violation of WP:CIV and WP:NPA, and may end up a target of sockpuppet allegations which give rise to little yellow notices being plastered on their User and Talk pages, and on the article Talk pages. The sockpuppet investigations are used for days as an excuse to proceed with even more virulent WP:NPA and WP:CIV violations.

Comments

Revenge nomination from a confirmed sock puppet of User:BryanFromPalatine. I need say no more. --BenBurch 00:39, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

See Misplaced Pages:Requests for checkuser/Case/BryanFromPalatine and Misplaced Pages:Suspected sock puppets/BryanFromPalatine (4th) for recently completed proceeding against this sock puppet making this revenge request. --BenBurch 01:39, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps you should say more, Ben. I'm assembling the evidence against you now. There's going to be a lot of it. - ClemsonTiger 00:42, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Here's some evidence of their personal attacks and ridicule. Here's some more. Here's just one of many examples of their ridicule and personal attacks during a sockpuppet investigation. Notice how, whenever one of them starts a sockpuppet investigation, the other is piling on within a few minutes. Each and every time. Conclusive and damning evidence of their meatpuppet relationship. - ClemsonTiger 00:47, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

The evidence of their collaborative violations of WP:NPOV, WP:RS, WP:CIV and WP:NPA are far too voluminous to list here. I refer admins to their Talk pages and the archives of their Talk pages for the many warnings that they have received. I also refer admins to the articles I've previously cited, and the many warnings they've received there as well. - ClemsonTiger 01:13, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Don't forget the archives from his talk page that BenBurch has tried to conceal, by not linking them on his Talk page: Archive 1 Beginning - June 2006 Archive 2 June 2006 - December 3rd 2006 - ClemsonTiger 01:27, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

There's also the previous account used by F.A.A.F.A., entitled NBGPWS, which stands for "Neocons Be Gone, Protest Warrior Sucks," and its archives. Under that name, F.A.A.F.A. was blocked for a month. - ClemsonTiger 01:27, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Then, of course, there's this little gem: - ClemsonTiger 01:29, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

NOTE: Requesting sock puppet and the sockpuppeteer have been permanently blocked. BenBurch 02:41, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

While I believe that (a) this is a revenge posting and (b) neither Ben or FAAFA is a sock puppet or that either uses sockpuppets, the rest of CT's post is pretty accurate. Jinxmchue 04:07, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

I have had very unpleasant dealings--shouts and threats--from BenBurch in the last day or so, He rejects the notion that all statements have to be based on reliable sources and demands all sorts of nonsense re Henry Ford. (He says that a deletion of incorrect information has to be proven false to his satisfaction or it stays, even without a reliable source.) I've made hundreds of editos to that article over the last year and resent his un-Wiki behaviour. Rjensen 02:31, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Ahem... You were five reverts into your 3RR limit, and I was nice enough not to report that. And you were deleting properly sourced information from the article to defend Henry Ford against charges that he was complicit with Hitler. You provided NO sources to back up your claim that the cite for that material was unreliable, and instead decided to make fun of my grandparents. I demanded, and the other editors in that article demanded, that you provide a Reliable Source to back up your extraordinary claim that the source we had was a liar. You claimed that The International Jew never existed, or was not authored by Ford, and was never translated into German, both untrue. All we asked was a Reliable Source for your claims and your refused to provide it. So, yes, you will continue to have "very unpleasant dealings" with me and the other editors of the Henry Ford article if you intend to bully your way through to deleting information to rehabilitate Ford. --BenBurch 16:06, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Oh yes, and my only "threat" was to turn you in for 3RR if you made a Sixth Revert to this article. I see that you were subsequently blocked for edit warring on yet another article, and you have MANY such blocks in your block log. --BenBurch 16:08, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

See how BenBurch responds to claims that he has threatened someone. He responds with more bullying. Since joining Misplaced Pages I've tried to learn how the website works: the interpersonal dynamics and hierarchies. I haven't done much editing, just reading and learning about the sociology of the site. I looked at the Protest Warrior, Free Republic, and Democratic Underground articles since I suspected that they would be flashpoints for conflict and this was immediately confirmed. I quickly learned about diffs, talk pages, archives and about contribution histories. What they're doing is not right. I looked at the Free Republic talk page and the Democratic Underground talk page, and archives of both. They are like dogfights. But every fight has a history. I looked for the cause of this fight in the archives of the fighters. I found this edit war (9-10 January) and this edit war (31 December - 1 January) (both on BryanFromPalatine's talk page while he was blocked) and this foul remark (5 December). I've learned that a user has the unlimited right to edit his own Talk page. Any edit war there is the fault of the visitor. Many, many other edit wars and foul remarks in the archives. They're still harassing Bryan here and here and here. There's also this, where BenBurch is using IP address 69.81.140.136 as a sock puppet. The presence of such people is the reason why I have not continued to participate on Misplaced Pages to a greater degree. Careful review of the diffs and contrib histories confirms that BenBurch and FAAFA have formed a street gang. Whenever one of them gets into a disagreement, the other one shows up, probably in response to a phone call or e-mail. BenBurch and FAAFA always baited BryanFromPalatine. Administrators blamed the victim, because he always took the bait and reacted in the wrong way. BenBurch and FAAFA should share his fate. Fensteren 19:55, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Clemson Tiger is Nit Picking...it appears.

Sounds like the Republicans are just nit picking because Ben Burch and the other guy are holding down very strong arguements and they have similar opinions. This guy just wants someone who is not Pro-Bush or super conservative banned. Nit Picking - previous unsigned comment by User:69.81.140.136

Conclusions