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== Extensive article about Bean == == Extensive article about Bean ==
The I just added to support "Terry Bean Equality Day" has a great deal of background on Bean as well as details about legal issues with a Kiah Lawson. TBH, I find most everything I'm reading about this person distasteful and have no interest in expanding the article, but pointing out that ref for anyone else who wants to dig into it. ] ] 00:53, 4 May 2021 (UTC) The I just added to support "Terry Bean Equality Day" has a great deal of background on Bean as well as details about legal issues with a Kiah Lawson. TBH, I find most everything I'm reading about this person distasteful and have no interest in expanding the article, but pointing out that ref for anyone else who wants to dig into it. ] ] 00:53, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
:See my comment, just above. The real problem is that the main article has been illegitimately 'protected', by people who have been trying to conceal Bean's crimes, and the edit block is a large part of that misconduct. I think that everyone in seeming 'authority' over this page should admit their prior misconduct, and cease any sort of control, or even participation in this page in any role. Clearly, they are motivated to help cover-up news of Bean's criminal (and now civil, too) case, and they have been misusing their power to accomplish this effort. Who has been enabling the edit-block on the main article? They must admit why they did it. Also, the following atrocious quote: "In a statement, Bean wrote "I take some measure of comfort that the world now knows what I have always known – that I was falsely accused and completely innocent of every accusation that was made."" needs to be removed. It has needed removal since it was added, probably in 2015, and has become especially laughable since late 2019, when the public discovered that Bean and his lawyer had secretly paid $240,000 (?) to Lori Deveny, MSG's crooked lawyer, who is now in extensive trouble not merely for her actions robbing about $200,000 in money ostensibly to be paid to MSG, but also defrauding many of her other clients. This article, "Terry Bean", should be held up as a disgusting example of how bad Misplaced Pages has gotten, when a small number of people in control are not merely trying, but in fact succeeding, to manipulate the facts surrounding Terry Bean and his crime(s). ] (]) 17:48, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

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Recent Arrest For Witness Tampering

https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2019/10/prominent-portland-attorney-derek-ashton-arrested-and-booked-into-jail.html Portland real estate developer Terry Bean was arrested Wednesday afternoon on an accusation that he committed a felony computer crime by allegedly paying off a teenager who had been set to testify against him in a sex abuse case. Bean’s arrest followed the arrest earlier Wednesday of his former criminal defense attorney, Derek Ashton, on an identical computer crime charge. The prosecution has said in court documents that Ashton carried out the deed for Bean. — Preceding unsigned comment added by EvPok (talkcontribs) 09:23, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Plot to hide the witness in Bean's case.

https://www.kgw.com/article/news/investigations/court-docs-detail-alleged-plot-to-pay-off-hide-witness-in-terry-bean-sex-abuse-case/283-4e6dd61f-9e57-45b6-8832-8da9674681b5

PORTLAND, Ore. -- Court documents filed in the criminal case against Portland real estate developer and civil rights activist Terry Bean outline an elaborate plot involving several lawyers to help pay off and hide Bean’s alleged victim in 2015.  Bean is accused of sodomizing and sexually abusing a 15-year old boy in Eugene after a University of Oregon football game. He has pleaded not guilty. Bean was originally charged in the case five years ago, but charges were dismissed when the alleged victim, identified as M.S.G. in court papers, declined to take the witness stand.  2601:601:1700:B672:AC4B:AAC9:4AD3:724B (talk) 01:18, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

This self-serving statement should have been removed long ago.

The article says, ""I take some measure of comfort that the world now knows what I have always known — that I was falsely accused and completely innocent of every accusation that was made."". Bean's statement of his opinion of what the world "knows" is self-serving and laughable. It does not need to be included here. There are plenty of statements by others that accuse Bean of child rape, and for some reason they aren't present in this article. Did NPOV just disappear? We have recently (January 2019) discovered that his corrupt attorney colluded with another corrupt (Lori Deveny) attorney to keep Bean's victim away from the courthouse for Bean's 2015 abortive trial. https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2019/08/prosecutor-in-terry-bean-sex-case-says-hes-got-damning-evidence-of-200k-bribery.html "Terry Bean’s lawyer, alleged victim’s lawyer colluded for months to get accuser to stay silent, new documents allege". 71.8.174.161 (talk) 20:18, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Minimizing sex predator history

If you Google Terry Bean, near the top of the list is the allegations of sexual abuse. Yet its barely mentioned on his wikipedia, with nothing but a tiny sentence mentioning that he was re-indicted in September 2019. Why is this so minimized? Compare this to Harvey Weinstein, who has an entire paragraph about his allegations in his wiki introduction. https://en.wikipedia.org/Harvey_Weinstein https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2019/09/explosive-new-allegations-surface-in-terry-bean-sex-abuse-case.html Mbsyl (talk) 20:03, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

and no one sees this. how convenientMbsyl (talk) 03:37, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

Lawyer for Victim "MSG", Lori Deveny, engaged in fraud and stole the money that Terry Bean and Bean's Lawyer had arranged to be (illegally) paid to victim MSG.

https://stephanievolin.medium.com/free-of-charge-fca23f9a73e6 Also: https://www.kgw.com/article/news/investigations/court-docs-detail-alleged-plot-to-pay-off-hide-witness-in-terry-bean-sex-abuse-case/283-4e6dd61f-9e57-45b6-8832-8da9674681b5 About 2015, ostensibly this case was going to be settled, but in 2019 that outcome began to unravel. It turned out that Terry Bean, through his crooked lawyer Derek Ashton, did indeed pay around $220,000, to the victim (identified as "MSG"), but the judge had specifically disapproved of this payment, and the fact of that payment was kept from that judge. However, MSG's crooked lawyer Lori Deveny actually stole the money intended for the victim, and engaged in a lot of fraud herself, against other of her clients. If this article on Terry Bean continues to be purported to actually cover these matters, it should correct the record and include these events. Also, the victim MSG conspired to leave Eugene, apparently going to Bend, Oregon, in order to make a trial impossible, and that occurred. In addition, the "See Also" section should be augmented to include references to child molestation and rape, as well as fraud and corruption by attorneys. Allassa37 (talk) 23:05, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Has this article, "Terry Bean", been captured by the supporters of Terry Bean, and are they misusing that control to cleanse it of embarrassing facts about Bean? Should we report that to Misplaced Pages as misuse?

I wanted to make an edit, but I don't see an indication that the article is write-protected. Yet, write has been disabled, which usually means that an explanation will be placed at the top of the Talk Page. I will be quite clear: Terry Bean appears to be being protected, and the egregious news of his criminal case has been concealed from this article, apparently for many years. There has been a great deal of news about Bean himself, and his Attorney Derek Ashton, and the attorney(s) for "MSG", his rape-victim, and the fraud associated with the handling of that case. Misplaced Pages isn't supposed to be ideological, although for years seems to be under the control of "those kind of people". (Interpret that any way you wish...) The only plausible explanation is that there are people who think they can control this article, for the purpose of concealing embarrassing events that involve a (BLP violation removed). I am thinking that anyone who feels the way I do should assist me in filing a complaint with Misplaced Pages for this obvious fraud, which must include some WP administrators, to expose just how bad WP can get when that misconduct is allowed to fester. Notice that there are a great deal of references to news about Terry Bean and his criminal case in this Talk page, and far more information is available through a Google-search, and yet any attempt to put those events into the article seem to have ceased years ago. I say "seems to", because failed attempts to edit the article apparently don't leave a trace. Presumably, somebody tried to do edits, but were blocked by an edit block...but that edit block seems to not include EVERYONE, right? And, I wonder if the list of people who HAVE successfully edited this article in the last 2-3 years can be trusted: Are they a part of a de-facto cabal? I believe they must recuse themselves since they have apparently demonstrated their bias. I am thinking that there should be far more controversial discussion on the Talk page, and that should by now include extensive discussion as to why the embarrassing news hasn't been included in the main article. This is obvious corruption. Who objects to it? Who tolerates it? Tell me how to issue a complaint, and if nobody else does that, I will. Allassa37 (talk) 23:20, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

See my reply and advice at WP:ANI#Terry Bean. GorillaWarfare (talk) 23:57, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Extensive article about Bean

The ref I just added to support "Terry Bean Equality Day" has a great deal of background on Bean as well as details about legal issues with a Kiah Lawson. TBH, I find most everything I'm reading about this person distasteful and have no interest in expanding the article, but pointing out that ref for anyone else who wants to dig into it. Schazjmd (talk) 00:53, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

See my comment, just above. The real problem is that the main article has been illegitimately 'protected', by people who have been trying to conceal Bean's crimes, and the edit block is a large part of that misconduct. I think that everyone in seeming 'authority' over this page should admit their prior misconduct, and cease any sort of control, or even participation in this page in any role. Clearly, they are motivated to help cover-up news of Bean's criminal (and now civil, too) case, and they have been misusing their power to accomplish this effort. Who has been enabling the edit-block on the main article? They must admit why they did it. Also, the following atrocious quote: "In a statement, Bean wrote "I take some measure of comfort that the world now knows what I have always known – that I was falsely accused and completely innocent of every accusation that was made."" needs to be removed. It has needed removal since it was added, probably in 2015, and has become especially laughable since late 2019, when the public discovered that Bean and his lawyer had secretly paid $240,000 (?) to Lori Deveny, MSG's crooked lawyer, who is now in extensive trouble not merely for her actions robbing about $200,000 in money ostensibly to be paid to MSG, but also defrauding many of her other clients. This article, "Terry Bean", should be held up as a disgusting example of how bad Misplaced Pages has gotten, when a small number of people in control are not merely trying, but in fact succeeding, to manipulate the facts surrounding Terry Bean and his crime(s). Allassa37 (talk) 17:48, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
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