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:{{u|Lenalg}}, homeopaths claim all kinds of crazy shit. But homeopathy was invented from whole cloth by Samuel Hahnemann. ''']''' <small>(] - ])</small> 20:42, 6 May 2021 (UTC) | :{{u|Lenalg}}, homeopaths claim all kinds of crazy shit. But homeopathy was invented from whole cloth by Samuel Hahnemann. ''']''' <small>(] - ])</small> 20:42, 6 May 2021 (UTC) | ||
::It's actually not homeopaths claiming this if you read the source. It is quite a critical piece and doesn't claim Hippocrates probably founded homeopathy, but is more drawing tenuous comparisons to some of his writings. Given its age not really useful here in any case. ] ] 00:10, 7 May 2021 (UTC) | ::It's actually not homeopaths claiming this if you read the source. It is quite a critical piece and doesn't claim Hippocrates probably founded homeopathy, but is more drawing tenuous comparisons to some of his writings. Given its age not really useful here in any case. ] ] 00:10, 7 May 2021 (UTC) | ||
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Bad explanation to genuine results
Hahnemann noticed that his treatments had bad side effects so started diluting the amounts he was giving his patients. When he realizes that he had diluted it pass the dilution limit he claimed that the water had memorizes the effects of the medicine. We now know it was his patients that had memorizes the effects of the medicine as has been verified by modern experiment.Robert_Ader#Research_in_psychoneuroimmunology TheLittleAmericanMonkey (talk) 00:50, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- Until we have a reliable source tying homeopathy to psychoneuroimmunology, this is original research. — The Hand That Feeds You: 16:36, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- I don’t think “water memory” was proposed by Hahnemann. And it’s rather unlikely that Hahnemann “realizes that he had diluted it pass the dilution limit” as he was dead by the time a value for Avogadro’s constant was figured out. Brunton (talk) 21:55, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
History subsection edit to match Greek-language version
The following sentence is at the beginning of History/Historical context section of the Greek language version of this article (https://el.wikipedia.org/%CE%9F%CE%BC%CE%BF%CE%B9%CE%BF%CF%80%CE%B1%CE%B8%CE%B7%CF%84%CE%B9%CE%BA%CE%AE).
"Ιστορία Ιστορικό πλαίσιο Οι oμοιοπαθητικοί ισχυρίζονται πως ο Ιπποκράτης πιθανόν έχει θεμελιώσει την ομοιοπαθητική περίπου το 400 π.Χ., όταν υπαγόρευε τη χρήση μιας μικρής δόσης μανδραγόρα για θεραπεία μανίας, γνωρίζοντας πως αυτό προκαλεί μανία σε πολύ μεγαλύτερες δόσεις."
This translates as follows, and it should be added at the beginning of the section titled "History", for consistency.
"Homeopaths claim that Hippocrates probably founded homeopathy around 400 BC, when he dictated the use of a small dose of mandrake to treat mania, knowing that it caused mania in much larger doses." Citation : Hemenway, Henry Bixby (1894), «Modern Homeopathy and Medical Science», JAMA: the Journal of the American Medical Association (11): 367, doi:10.1001/jama.1894.02420900001001 . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lenalg (talk • contribs) 1 May 2021 00:38 (UTC)
- We cannot control the Greek Misplaced Pages, and it is not a goal of Wikipedias to be "consistent" across languages. That source from 1894 is one source that merely states a claim - and in fact, this is an exceptional claim about a respected "father of medicine" believing in homeopathy (a pseudoscience) for which the Greek Misplaced Pages does not seem to have adequate sourcing. It is not our problem that they have that in their article - they are their own project and can make their own decisions - but it does not meet our sourcing standards here, and in fact I venture to say that no matter how reliably sourced that "claim" is it's not due weight to consider it here, as it's merely another misleading claim made by believers in pseudoscience to attempt to legitimize their "science". -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez (User/say hi!) 00:50, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
- Lenalg, homeopaths claim all kinds of crazy shit. But homeopathy was invented from whole cloth by Samuel Hahnemann. Guy (help! - typo?) 20:42, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
- It's actually not homeopaths claiming this if you read the source. It is quite a critical piece and doesn't claim Hippocrates probably founded homeopathy, but is more drawing tenuous comparisons to some of his writings. Given its age not really useful here in any case. Aircorn (talk) 00:10, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
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