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| ==Consequences of vandalism== | |||
| Hello hello hello | |||
| Are these dates mixed up or was this joke made after Sarah palin made the comment? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 08:16, 21 November 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| :I'm pretty sure it was a reference to the Sarah Palin comment, but I don't remember for sure. ] (]) 16:05, 14 May 2012 (UTC) | |||
| ==2006 and 2007== | |||
| It seems that these were the years when vandals were most active. Do statistics support it ? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 16:51, 4 February 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| == A message for anyone who might want to get rid of the vandalism template == | |||
| I realize that since this is an article in namespace zero, and it ''does'' concern Misplaced Pages itself, ''and'' is able to exist with out being a ], it's gone pretty far down the line that most articles about Misplaced Pages haven't. I'm guessing that any simple reader reading this article who is not an editor will come along and read this article (although the odds are slim) and be able to know perfectly well what "vandalism" means in the Misplaced Pages department. I mean, take a look at ]. You see a tag to ] but you don't see one yo this article. And don't get me wrong: I wouldn't point out that this article should be deleted because it is a sort of "clone" of ], because I believe that it is important to tell the difference between an article and a policy or guideline. | |||
| ]. ], ], ]. 11:51, 5 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
| == Geographical nature == | |||
| Vandalism in Misplaced Pages is a function of the region. You can see lot of vandalism in developing-country-related-articles, whereas less in other nation related articles... | |||
| Can I get citations for this from anywhere? | |||
| (] (]) 11:01, 27 May 2012 (UTC)) | |||
| :And articles of current importance. ] (]) 15:24, 27 May 2012 (UTC) | |||
| == How does it affect Misplaced Pages? == | |||
| This article should state how quickly vandalism is reverted, an estimate of how many articles it affects, and so on. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</sub> 16:12, 10 February 2013 (UTC) | |||
| Please change "and/ore" to "and/or." <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 19:13, 13 March 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| == The Irony == | |||
| Anyone else find it ironic that this article is semi-protected? | |||
| (won't be true after April 3, 2013) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 20:50, 16 March 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| :The vandals apparently do. --<span style="border:1px solid #00007f;background:#07ffff"><font face="Times New Roman">]‧]‧]‧</font><font face="Lucida Handwriting">]</font></span> 19:22, 30 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| No. You don't understand the meaning of irony. How ironic. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 21:37, October 4, 2018 (UTC)</small> | |||
| == ISBN == | |||
| {{Edit semi-protected|answered=yes}} | |||
| ISBN 10:0-596-51616-2 is incorrect, please remove "10:" from it as it means ]. | |||
| :] '''Done'''<!-- Template:ESp -->. There was also a typo in the ISBN (changed to 51516). --''']''' <small>(])</small> 18:59, 24 May 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == Image == | |||
| Right now, the article uses an image (]) of a page being edited. This is not what is relevant to most readers (I presume most readers to ''not'' edit the wiki), so I wonder if it would be better to use an image of an ''article'' that has been vandalized (i.e., not an image of a diff). There are ways this could be done innocuously--take a screenshot of a preview, take a screenshot of the permalink of that same diff, do it on an article copy in userspace. <b class="IPA">]</b> (]) 12:24, 24 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :I've uploaded a screenshot of the same edit with the vandalized text highlighted, if anyone else agrees. It might need to be cropped, so that the vandalized text is more noticeable. | |||
| ] --<span style="border:1px solid #00007f;background:#07ffff"><font face="Times New Roman">]‧]‧]</font></span> 22:20, 19 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::{{done}} --<span style="border:1px solid #00007f;background:#07ffff"><font face="Times New Roman">]‧]‧]</font></span> 00:55, 20 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == Sarkeesian == | |||
| Well, if it's really necessary to keep the exact number of people who vandalized her page, let's at least try to remove needless speculation about the vandalizing of her page being somehow misogynistic (or, for that matter, a "campaign"), shall we? ] (]) 20:38, 1 August 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Sorry if you don't see hateful, misogynist trolling as a big deal, but the ] used in this section say otherwise. ] (]) 22:44, 1 August 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::Source 21 (which is the only "reliable source" used for any of the content I edited) is a blog (a.k.a. not a particularly reliable source), which contains such POV gems as, among others: "Even if you don't like the idea - or don't believe that women are poorly represented in games (in which case, you would be wrong)". Instead, I suggest we take an actual reliable source (such as , and delete the POV stuff about the vandalism being a "campaign" and "misogynist". | |||
| == Typo== | |||
| "Locking articles so only established users, or in some cases only administrators, can edit them. <i>Semi-protected</i>articles are those that..." There is a missing space after semi-protected. | |||
| :fixed, thanks for bringing it to our attention. ] ] 17:37, 1 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
| == Anita Sarkesian and The Oatmeal == | |||
| Two suggestions: | |||
| # Remove or rework the section on Anita Sarkesian. It's written like an advertisement for her purpose and her blog and seems to insult the vandals by calling them misogynists, implying that the issue was sexism and not that Anita's project had faults which Misplaced Pages ended up being used as a conduit for expression. | |||
| # Add in a section for ], more specifically, ]'s encouragement of vandalizing . | |||
| Thanks, | |||
| ] (]) 17:48, 20 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :Regarding #1...In other words, she was "asking for it" ? No, I think we'll pass on your decidedly misogynist spin on the affair. ] (]) 17:53, 20 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::Who's "we"? Are you a mental collective or something? This is exactly what I'm talking about. Cut it out with persecution complexes, I just want dumb shit removed from the article. ] (]) 17:57, 20 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::It is an accurate and sourced description of what actually happened. It will not be removed. ] (]) 18:10, 20 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| == External links modified == | == External links modified == | ||
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| Cheers.—]<small><sub style="margin-left:-14.9ex;color:green;font-family:Comic Sans MS;">]:Online</sub></small> 04:55, 1 February 2016 (UTC) | Cheers.—]<small><sub style="margin-left:-14.9ex;color:green;font-family:Comic Sans MS;">]:Online</sub></small> 04:55, 1 February 2016 (UTC) | ||
| == My missing link == | |||
| I posted an external link twice and have been reverted twice by user ]. I don't have time to get into an edit war (and to be honest, I don't have patience to wade through all the external-link-Wiki-regulations), so I'm just going to post it here and let the chips fall where they may. | |||
| * (from ]) ] (]) 15:50, 5 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
| *:There is not much to distinguish this from a blog post by a banned user with an axe to grind. The link falls well into ]. -- ] <sup>]</sup> 18:35, 5 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == Citation needed tag needed == | |||
| The line "This is currently unlikely to be the case, considering the reliability and speed of anti-vandal bots and recent changes patrollers" definitely needs a citation needed tag. I came to this article because recently I am constantly finding little bits of surreptitious vandalism and reverting/undoing it, and it's usually not the old-style blatant vandalism, but damages to an article's formatting or sneaking in very small (i.e., a word or two), but very wrong, science. I know this wouldn't be at first assumed to be vandalism, but it's very frequently accompanied with a misleading edit summary (e.g., "fixing typo"). I know "AGF" and all, but the frequency of these problems in science articles seems in my sampling (very unscientific sampling, that is) to be increasing. Hence I really think this line needs a cite, or something to justify it. It almost seems like there's a small army of anons and single-edit users now that have figured out blatant vandalism won't stand and so want to degrade the quality of the encyclopedia with a thousand needles. | |||
| ] (]) 08:25, 3 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
| Also, "Blocking is not considered to be a punitive action on Misplaced Pages" needs a rephrase to be more objective. I don't know for sure but maybe, "The consensus position of Misplaced Pages editors is that blocking is not a punitive action." Anyone could "consider" it however they wish; if someone is blocked and they feel it's punitive, then it's considered a punitive action by someone (and I'm sure a lot of people have felt that way). ] (]) 08:31, 3 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :I agree that the statement needs a citation tag, since it doesn't ring true to me, either. I also consider that it may become outdated as "vandalism technology" evolves in the anti-vandalism arms race. As well as the "fiddle vandalism" you note, I've recently seen evidence (from sources outside of Misplaced Pages) of ] vandalism (see "dank meme" , and "hypothetical" vandalism , , ). Much like "media sourced" vandalism (see Stephen Colbert: ], ]), instead of a concentrated effort by a small cabal of meat-puppets, the vandalism arises through social media among a loose group of people where it becomes a "thing" within their community. ] (]) 10:59, 3 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ::Yeah; the more I look into this vandalism, the more complicated I realize it is. Stephen Colbert was one part I knew about long ago, but it just seems to get worse.... | |||
| ::] (]) 09:41, 5 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ::I've amended both sentences mentioned by the OP to take account of the concerns expressed here. —]] 17:13, 5 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == Add the Jontron dispute! == | |||
| Jonathan Jafari or Jontron was shown in his 2016 Christmas Special editing the page for The Santa Clause 3: The Escape Clause to show the plot as "Tim Allen and Martin Short get some serious $$$$$$$$$$$$ for XMAS." Many people followed suit. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 20:12, 4 February 2017 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| == This should be called Internet Vandalism == | |||
| Anyone can vandalize any Wiki page, even off Misplaced Pages, including Wikia. So why not rename the title to '''''Internet Vandalism'''''? ] 21:20, 26 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| : The article would need a fundamental rewrite if it was retitled "Internet vandalism". The article as it is written is specifically about vandalism on Misplaced Pages. It does not discuss any vandalism outside of Misplaced Pages. ] 21:46, 26 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| == Merge == | |||
| {{atop|Inactive discussion that has no chance of succeeding anyway. See also ].—] (] | ]) 20:08, 8 June 2018 (UTC)}} | |||
| Shouldn't we merge this page with ]? They're practically both the same! ] (]) 13:18, 28 June 2017 (UTC) | |||
| : '''Oppose''' They're different namespaces, different intended audiences and thus slightly different content. ] (]) 13:30, 28 June 2017 (UTC) | |||
| : '''Strong oppose''', and I'm fairly certain it's prohibited by policy. Any similarity is just a coincidence. This page is an encyclopedia article, the other is a project management page. ] (]) 14:38, 28 June 2017 (UTC) | |||
| {{abot}} | |||
| == Merge == | |||
| I have merged ] into this article, following consensus. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 15:59, 14 July 2017 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| == Semi-protected edit request on 18 July 2017 on ClueBot NG == | |||
| {{edit semi-protected|Vandalism on Misplaced Pages|answered=yes}} | |||
| I have found a couple of errors in the newly-created section named "ClueBot NG". After saying the words "Cobi Carter in 2010", there should be a space between the comma and the opening bracket. After that, the word 'Cluebot' should be changed to 'ClueBot', the proper name of the old ClueBot before the NG version took over. At refs 18 and 19, the full stop should be before the two tags not after them. | |||
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| That's the mistakes I have found. Cheers, ] (]) 18:06, 18 July 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :] '''Done'''<!-- Template:ESp --> ] ] ] 18:13, 18 July 2017 (UTC) | |||
| I will never vandalism. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 14:16, 23 July 2017 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| ==Misplaced Pages - what about full protection?== | |||
| This article says that Misplaced Pages is an open encyclopeadia that anybody can edit and then goes on to say that this is with the exception of articles that are semi-protected. Surely, this exception also applies to articles that are fully protected, i.e. sections of Misplaced Pages that only administrators are allowed to edit. ] (]) 15:56, 30 September 2017 (UTC) | |||
| == Ajit Pai page vandalism == | |||
| When the news about net neutrality was released, some people vandalized this page. Should we add this issue to the page, discuss it if you like. | |||
| https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Ajit_Pai&diff=prev&oldid=790192200 | |||
| https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Ajit_Pai&diff=next&oldid=811401847 <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 03:19, 16 December 2017 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| ] (]) 02:32, 17 December 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :That's a good idea. Could you provide a third-party source which discusses this vandalism? —] (] | ]) 02:12, 26 May 2018 (UTC) | |||
| == Typo == | |||
| There's a typo near the end of the current article. Dana Boente's name is misspelled as "Dana J. Botne". Could someone with editing permissions correct the typo? <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 20:48, 6 March 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| == More irony == | |||
| It'd be great to fix this: "The challenge from vandalism in Misplaced Pages was once characterized by the Former Encyclopædia Britannica editor-in-chief Robert McHenry ". One of the citations is a bad link (which supports the point I'm making here), the other is certainly not about vandalism. McHenry was almost certainly talking about the crowd-sourced nature of Misplaced Pages, and not vandalism specifically. Misplaced Pages is a product of the normal distribution of its contributors. These are not the kind of professional, correctness-obsessed, writers of a reputable encyclopedia such as the Britannica. Misplaced Pages is not reputable; it's similar to a public restroom in exactly the ways McHenry describes it. Hence, it is to be expected that this topic (and every other one here) contains errors and omissions and as is evident it does (and they do). That's the point McHenry is making. Vandalism is malicious degradation of the Misplaced Pages corpus; errors introduced in the ordinary course of business are degradations resulting from incompetence. And, as a general rule of thumb, it's wise not to attribute to malice what can be feasibly attributed to incompetence. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </small> | |||
| == Federal crime == | |||
| I would like to propose that it be made a federal crime to vandalize Misplaced Pages and similar wikis. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 21:37, October 4, 2018 (UTC)</small> | |||
| :]. ] (]) 16:31, 23 October 2018 (UTC) | |||
| == Killer whales vandalism 14 years ago got picked up by media == | |||
| See . The information that this user added got removed from the ] wiki literally just now. <span style="background: #0800aa; padding: 2px;"> ''']''' </span><span style="background: #006eff; padding: 2px;"> ''']''' </span><span style="background: #00bbff; padding: 2px;"> '''] '''</span> 20:00, 30 December 2018 (UTC) | |||
| ==Comment== | |||
| Not sure if there is anywhere this is discussed but I never realised how easy it is to vandalise Misplaced Pages and how little the people running it seem to care about how accurate it is. I've been editing for over 13 years but have moved in with someone who likes to vandalise it (despite me asking him not to). It appears that there is nothing anyone can do to stop him as IP addresses just change. Why doesn't Misplaced Pages make it so you have to register? That would decrease damaging vandalism massively. People in charge must have thought the same thing and decided not to make that the case, ergo they don't really care if Misplaced Pages is accurate. Sad that due to their inaction I can't defend Misplaced Pages anymore in debates with friends :-( ] (]) 22:27, 8 August 2019 (UTC) | |||
| : https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Perennial_proposals#Prohibit_anonymous_users_from_editing ] (]) 22:29, 8 August 2019 (UTC) | |||
| ::Thanks, I shall read! ] (]) 15:53, 9 August 2019 (UTC) | |||
| :Hmmm, it's sad to hear that it is a Foundation Issue that they aren't bothered about trying to eliminate 97% of vandalism. I guess whilst I will still use and edit this site I won't be someone defending it's reputation or veracity to anyone else :-( ] (]) 15:56, 9 August 2019 (UTC) | |||
| :: The vast majority of vandalism is reverted right away, and ]. ] (]) 19:15, 9 August 2019 (UTC) | |||
| :As I've said, I'm a 13 year veteran here. It's becoming clear that vandalism isn't an issue and accuracy isn't one either. I will continued to edit but it appears that a lot of actual good edits I do are deleted by people who ask for concrete proof when my friends daft, deliberate vandalism are let slide as they are ones from un-registered accounts. Sad to see this wonderful project go to pot due to it's insistence on some weird belief that people will be good. Best of luck with that. ] (]) 22:02, 9 August 2019 (UTC) | |||
| == Protected edit request on 14 October 2019 == | |||
| {{edit fully-protected|ClueBot NG|answered=yes}} | |||
| Add {{tl|R to section}} inside the redirect category shell and remove the redirect from ]. The latter category is not meant for mainspace content. ] (]) 15:04, 14 October 2019 (UTC) | |||
| :] '''Done'''<!-- Template:EP --> ] (]) 16:03, 14 October 2019 (UTC) | |||
| == How do I unblock my account as editor of Misplaced Pages? == | |||
| I did not really commit any offense of vandalism that warranted my account to be blocked as editor. | |||
| I can no longer edit anymore. I need help on what can be done to unblock my account and continue my job as editor | |||
| Someone should help ] (]) 14:26, 18 November 2019 (UTC) | |||
| :If you left this message, your account is not blocked. --]] 14:54, 18 November 2019 (UTC) | |||
| :NB the editor has asked the same question here ]. {{ping|Oakinrinlola}} please do not ask the same question in multiple places without even waiting for a reply. This wastes the time of the volunteers who assist at these message boards. ]<sup>]</sup> 15:25, 18 November 2019 (UTC) | |||
| ==Vandals should not exist, they should-== | |||
| Title --] (]) 06:54, 16 December 2019 (UTC)]--] (]) 06:54, 16 December 2019 (UTC) | |||
| == "Vandalpedia" listed at ] == | |||
| ] | |||
| An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect ]. Please participate in ] if you wish to do so. <!-- from Template:RFDNote --> ]] 02:55, 15 February 2020 (UTC) | |||
| == WP:DENY == | |||
| proposing the deletion of the section notable acts of vandalism par ]. <span style="background-color: #8fe38f;"><span style="color:#8fe38f">''']'''</span><sup>]</sup></span> 02:33, 7 June 2020 (UTC) | |||
| == "The Gibby Gibson" update == | |||
| The article should be updated with information about the vandalism of this article ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Gibby#/editor/all ), the first instance of this kind of that troll that i have found lays here ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/Special:MobileDiff/929568756 ) | |||
| I apologise for my poor knowledge of English language and any spelling mistakes, have a good night/day fellow Misplaced Pages users! | |||
| PS: also my apologies for my lack of "professional speaking skills", I'm still learning this language. ] (]) 23:15, 26 August 2020 (UTC) | |||
| == "ClueBot NG" listed at ] == | |||
| ] | |||
| A discussion is taking place to address the redirect ]. The discussion will occur at ] until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. <!-- from Template:RFDNote --> ] (] | ]) 02:00, 29 August 2020 (UTC) | |||
| == Reporting vandal == | |||
| Why do you make it so hard to report vandals like this: | |||
| https://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/2A02:C7F:9445:2900:4C80:4912:1DEF:45CD | |||
| I've just spent 10 minutes reading this page to work it out and still have no clue. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 09:15, 6 November 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| Also trying to figure out how to report vandals. There's a user deleting an article I created without giving any reasons. Went to her talk page to ask why and she deleted my talk comment. On her talk page there are other posters asking the same question about pages they've done that she deleted. These are established pages (not drafts) with multiple sources, several editors having already weighed in, etc. Seem to all be about women, but I may be wrong? Sure would love to report this in the proper fashion -- it takes a lot of work to constantly have to go in and revert! ] (]) 21:52, 19 December 2020 (UTC)KentuckianinNY | |||
| *Go to ]. Keep in mind, however, that there's no guarantee she will be blocked, especially if she hasn't been warned adequately and/or has not generated enough ''recent'' disruption. ] ] 19:35, 20 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
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Add Category:Criticism of Misplaced Pages --37.43.1.137 (talk) 10:52, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
- I'm not sure if that's a valid category for this article. Can you explain your rationale? Thanks, DesertPipeline (talk) 11:17, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
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Can we add something related to the vandalism on Aaron Burr?
On March 14th, 2021. The Misplaced Pages article for Aaron Burr was vandalized by adding a reference to a piece of fan art depicting Thomas Jefferson wearing a chest binder depicting Hatsune Miku? — Preceding unsigned comment added by D0nk m3m3s (talk • contribs) 09:36, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
Should meta:No_open_proxies be mentioned as a prevention measure?
When on VPN I get the meta:No open proxies message which blocks me from editing. Should this be added to the list of prevention measures?
--Frdp (talk) 18:01, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
Contingency plan for Established User or Administrator vandalism?
Should the article mention if there is any sort of contingnecy plan for "rogue" trusted users or administrators? I'm relatively new here but imagine the damage that could be caused by an administrator with full privileges vandalizing protected articles.
- No automated bot reversal.
- No ability for ordinary users to revert.
- No flagging by watchdog programs.
Is there some sort of protocol that would be followed in the case of administrator malfeasance or vandalism? If so this should be mentioned in the article. It might seem like an unlikely outcome but as we've seen on other platforms such as Reddit, admin meltdowns can happen and when they do it can become a very messy situation. I hope Misplaced Pages as thought this sort of thing through and has some sort of plan in place for it.
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