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	Still something I'm interested in working on. <span style="font-size:12pt;background:black;padding:1px 4px">] ]</span> 01:15, 23 September 2017 (UTC)		Still something I'm interested in working on. <span style="font-size:12pt;background:black;padding:1px 4px">] ]</span> 01:15, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

	=== Quebec articles ===

	You're most welcome! Funnily enough, you caught me ''right'' in the middle of wrestling with trying to find adequate sources to get a long-overdue article about the actor and writer ] done!

	I'm one of those editors who, while I don't write French well enough to actually be a contributor on FR as such, I can read it well enough to pull out the important facts from a newspaper or magazine article — and since we do have a problem with a lot of Quebec topics getting inadequately addressed on the English side, I do make an effort to help fill in some of the gaps when I can.

	Unfortunately, I don't have access to a ''database'' of older French-language newspaper content the way I do for the major English dailies, so I'm mostly stuck with what I can find on Google — which (as with Sabourin right now) isn't always very solid or reliable for people whose peak notability and sourceability was 30 or 40 years ago instead of within the past few years. But I try to do the best I can with what I've got. Thanks again. ] (]) 20:52, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
	:Well, if you ever need some help with French translations I'm your guy. I do whatever cleanup and wikifying I can but I'm not that good at creating brand new articles indeed! ] has thousands of archived newspapers. Some source ideas for Marcel Sabourin that are not about specific works (these are too many to list but often not in-depth):
	*http://www.banq.qc.ca/collections/collection_numerique/losstidcho/acteurs/marcel_sabourin/
	*http://biographie.radio-canada.ca/biographie/personnalites/marcel-sabourin
	*http://www.lapresse.ca/arts/spectacles-et-theatre/201309/27/01-4693946-ne-au-canada-francais-marcel-sabourin-demasque-la-betise.php
	*http://www.agencegoodwin.com/fr/artistes/marcel-sabourin (primary)
	*http://www.valleedurichelieuexpress.ca/actualites/societe/144571/les-noel-denfance-et-daujourdhui-de-marcel-sabourin
	*http://ville.montreal.qc.ca/portal/page?_pageid=5238,23621567&_dad=portal&_schema=PORTAL&pageType=2&id_comedien=11
	*https://voir.ca/cinema/2017/04/11/cest-le-coeur-qui-meurt-en-dernier-la-gloire-de-ma-mere/
	*http://ici.radio-canada.ca/emissions/culture_club/2013-2014/chronique.asp?idChronique=380110
	*http://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/630281/marcel-sabourin-prix-interpretation-masculine-l-autre-maison-37e-ffm-mathieu-roy
	*http://www.ledevoir.com/societe/education/388363/il-faut-ouvrir-les-jeunes-a-toutes-les-formes-d-art
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	*I hadn't noticed but props on getting this article made in the end {{ping\|Bearcat}}!!! <span style="background:black;padding:1px 4px">] ]</span> 17:13, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
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	Hello, the redirect {{-r\|Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Abbakar usman/Archive}} contains an archived sockpuppet investigation. Since you are both the one who moved the page and who archived the case, maybe you know more where this should belong? ] (]) 21:14, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
	*Thanks for the poke! Yeah I histmerged the case archives but didn't realize the already-open cases had later been archived under the original title by the script. Oops! {{done\|fixed}} <span style="background:black;padding:1px 4px">] ]</span> 21:45, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
	** Thanks, and great that you know what happened in 2015! (sorry for the late reply; I wanted to respond when you answered me, but found out a script was interfering with Convenient Discussions, so I investigated and forgot about this). ] (]) 20:36, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

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	== The WikiProject Video Games Newsletter, Q1 2021 ==

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	*Not an admin anymore. In any case, whether a standalone article meets English Misplaced Pages's threshold for inclusion is a matter than can be discussed regardless of the protection level of the title. The article was merged as the result of an AfD, and that was affirmed with protection after a DRV, so the recommended way to go about this would be to draft your proposed article at ] and then submit a new DRV arguing why new drafted version meets English Misplaced Pages's inclusion criteria, surpassing the AfD'ed version. <span style="background:black;padding:1px 4px">] ]</span> 22:44, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

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	== ''Armageddon'' outta here! ==

	Hey there! :) You closed the trainwreck ] back in 2013 - kudos to you for sorting that one out. ;) You redirected ] as a result, and I recently moved it to draft space. Do you figure the new version of the article is good enough to move back from drafts into article space? The sources actually present in the article may be light, but the other reviews noted should be able to one day make it much more substantial; regardless, it's a lot better than just two unsourced sentences now. ] (]) 13:02, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
	*There are plaintext mentions of reviews but what is needed is actual in-line citations to stuff that is said in the actual references. <span style="background:black;padding:1px 4px">] ]</span> 14:19, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
	:OK, I will move back to redirect until those can be located. ] (]) 14:22, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
	:We were able to get access to one of the reviews, so I moved Armageddon back into draft space and added it. I also sought assistance at ] to see if anyone can dig up more of those for us. ] (]) 18:33, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

	Also from that same AFD, we were working on ] in draft space, and so far we have three of the five known reviews in the text and are working on getting copies of the other two. :) ] (]) 13:47, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

	== Wikiproject Video games Newsletter survey ==

	I'm conducting another survey for the Wikiproject Video games Newsletter. If you could leave your thoughts on the matter it would be greatly appreciated. Every response will be compiled into a MOS-Esque answer that balances the thoughts of our top contributors. You're one of them! The question is as follows:

	'''What would you consider the requirements of making a video game series article? What about franchise articles?'''

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	*Series article needs SIGCOV in RS'es that is '''about''' the series (and not '''about''' the individual games), and at least 4 games or 3 games and a spinoff/other media. A franchise article is the same thing but when the topics includes non-video game media. (This is a pretty abritrary line I'm drawing of course). <span style="background:black;padding:1px 4px">] ]</span> 15:57, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

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Paralympic project

Since you are bilingual, I was wondering if you would be interested in translating a couple of small articles in French for me? Hawkeye7 (talk) 20:28, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Sure! I won't commit to any ETA because my I'm a gold medalist in lazy procrastination but toss me what you need and I'll get it done eventually! :D ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 22:03, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
No deadline! Thank you! Take your time. The articles are small: Maude Jacques and Cindy Ouellet. I sometimes forget that not all Canadians can speak English very well. But these two can. In fact, Maude was translating for me in Beijing. I tried auto-translating one once, but they delete unless the French is perfect, and mine's terrible. Hawkeye7 (talk) 08:17, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
I'll be honoured to work on the articles! The most complicated thing will be to figure out the frwiki versions of the various templates used. ;) ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 14:43, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
Hawkeye7 - Haven't had time to delve into this but I'm keeping this thread unarchived as a reminder. :) ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 17:52, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Game hint lines

I came across an article in GamePro about live game counselors and 900 hint lines which has one or two useful pieces of info. The trouble is, I can't seem to find an article on Misplaced Pages where such information might appropriately go. Any suggestions?--Martin IIIa (talk) 20:34, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

There's probably enough coverage to convert Nintendo Power Line into a broader concept of Video Game hint lines, of which the most famous was the Nintendo Power Line: Kotaku, A.V. Club, the line was revived for the NES Mini launch (Engadget, CNet, Polygon), Wikia (unusable as a source but can be used as a base for research), featured in The Wizard, that time when one number was bought by an sex company (N4G, NBC, Wired), Gamasutra, Felicia Day biography, Geek.com, Sierra Hint Line (this is an archive of 1989 Sierra Magazine), Sega, Konami also had their own Hint Lines. ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 20:55, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Martin IIIa do you have a link to the GamePro article? ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 13:17, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Bumping thread for 60 days. ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 16:30, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Agh, sorry it took me so unbelievably long to notice this post! To add insult to injury, no, I don't have a link, just a physical copy of the issue. It's issue 92, cover-dated May 1996, and the articles is on pages 14-15, if that helps at all.--Martin IIIa (talk) 15:48, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Ans you wouldn't happen to have a scan? ;D Ben—Salvidrim! ✉ 04:39, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

— HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 20:02, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

Moved from WT:VG – Ben · Salvidrim! ✉ 01:15, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

Still something I'm interested in working on. Ben · Salvidrim! ✉ 01:15, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – July 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2021).

Administrator changes

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Articles for Creation July 2021 Backlog Elimination Drive

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WikiProject Articles for creation is holding a month long Backlog Drive!
The goal of this drive is to eliminate the backlog of unreviewed articles. The drive is running until 31 July 2021.

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I'm trying to help you

But these problems frustrate me, and that people refuse to think about what I'm saying is even more frustrating. I'm not asking you to take my word for anything. Just read what I have to say and think. I want things to get better. I'm tired of things being so terrible. DesertPipeline (talk) 10:52, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

I've read what you said. I understand your point about the risks of using non-libre software. My point is that you are hurting yourself trying to fight a tiny battle when the entire war has been lost a decade ago. Privacy is dead. Everybody carries a surveillance device everywhere, every word you say or type, everywhere you go, all of your data is stored on countless servers. That's how the world goes. Putting disclaimers on stuff will not effect even the tiniest bit of change. The only truly private place is inside your brain (for now). So enjoy the privacy of your thoughts while you still can. Ben · Salvidrim! ✉ 11:03, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

Believing that certainly helps them, but it doesn't help you. If there really is no way to save ourselves from the oncoming destruction, then at least we can die trying. If you do nothing, you will automatically fail. If you try, there's a chance of success. Even the lowest possibility of succeeding is better than no possibility at all. DesertPipeline (talk) 11:05, 10 July 2021 (UTC)