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Page mover

Hi, Why you don't see my Page Mover request ? Please check my request.(Fade258 (talk) 04:03, 30 June 2021 (UTC))

I go through the ones I can easily approve and leave ones that I'm not sure of for others since my activity is much more sporadic these days. Basically if I'm unsure, I let someone who is more likely to reply in a timely manner review. TonyBallioni (talk) 22:24, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Suspicious new user

This new user began editing on May 29th, and jumped headfirst into AIV and RFPP. User:Bbb23 noticed the same thing, but was not answered. I pose the question here because you blocked a prolific vandalism patroller awhile back for abusing multiple accounts; it wouldn't surprise me if that user had trouble "staying away" during their block; that user's last edit to their talk page was May 27th, two days before this new user began editing. Like that blocked user, this new user has made some questionable AIV reports. OhNoitsJamie 15:36, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, Ohnoitsjamie, I saw your comments at AIV. Regardless of whether Di is a sock, I've been in favor of an indefinite block of the user for quite some time, but I've been in a bit of a tussle with ToBeFree, at whose Talk page I just posted a message, because TBF has been more patient/lenient/whatever. Sure would make it easier, though, if we could block for socking, but I don't even know who Jamie is referring to for a behavioral comparison.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:42, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) Second edit: setting twinkle options, sixth edit importing a script?! Look out for Redwarn... ——Serial 15:45, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

I guess there's no point to me being vague and opaque about my specific suspicion: . It could be someone else, but that's my first gut instinct. OhNoitsJamie 15:50, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

@Ohnoitsjamie, I think it is better to be vague about it on-wiki or speak boldly about it privately or take it to the appropriate venue. You never know who is shadow marking you and diff collecting on you whilst trying to build a “futile ABF case/evidence against you”. Rahh to hell with that! I’m in agreement with you! Something is off with that account. Celestina007 (talk) 16:28, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

I'm not an expert on CLCStudent, but I'm dubious that Di is the same person for a few reasons. First, you mention the timing, but Di was created a couple of days after CLC stopped editing his Talk page, not particularly close to the time he was blocked in February. Second, if I understand Tony's block, CLC did not sock with named accounts but with IPs. Third, CLC made a rather large number of edits to the project. Wasn't he better at counter-vandalism than Di? I realize that he could be trying to mask his competence and appear somewhat different, but it's pretty tough to pull off. Finally, what about the Nazi issues? Has Di behaved in any way similar to CLC in that area? That said, I still think Di is likely a sock, but probably of someone else; whether there's technical evidence to prove that is hard to know.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:35, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Filtering out the non-article-space edits, this comparison does rather support the idea. Favonian (talk) 17:48, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

I agree that the timing of the account creation isn't particularly damning; it's more the prolificness of the AIV and RFPP reports, and the haphazard nature of some of them I'm noticing with DI. CLCStudent also created a large volume of reports; many of them were good, but their were a fair amount of questionable ones that were rejected; this edit war with someone trying to add a NYT source is what made me think of CLCStudent). I don't recall ever getting a sense of ideology from CLCStudent's contributions; the Nazi-defending stuff seemed to be primarily from the IP edits. In any case, I wouldn't be shocked it if turned out to be a different user, but it's almost certainly someone who's edited before under a different account. Interesting that DI requested their vector.js pages be deleted not long after they created it, almost as if they realized it was suspicious). OhNoitsJamie 18:01, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Whoa! I meant to do that but then got distracted. Thanks, Favonian.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:03, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Regarding the interaction analysis, these might be less meaningful than they seem when comparing recent changes patrollers. Example... ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:51, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Does this mean that ToBeFree and CLCStudent are socks of each other? After all, they both have the letters "t" and "e" in their usernames. :P This just shows you why admins should not congregate; it leads to nothing but confusion.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:07, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:09, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

I suppose the most suspicious evidence I have is this request to revoke talk page access (and knowing the acronym TPA and under what circumstances you would remove access after a few weeks' tenure) on my talk page. I'm not the sort of admin who gets involved in that sort of thing, and indeed I was in the process of improving an article to GA when the request came in, so why they chose me to contact is somewhat bizarre. Ritchie333 10:52, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Drill it has now been globally locked as a long-term abuse case. Ritchie333 11:27, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

@Ritchie333: Why do you think that Di is a sock of ItsLassieTime?--Bbb23 (talk) 19:13, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

It's got the same behaviour as RandNetter96, another ILT sock, amongst others. This includes going after IPs, excessive templating and usage of noticeboards, little hand-written communication. Ritchie333 19:19, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

• I come back to all the notifications. @Bbb23, Ritchie333, and Ohnoitsjamie: anything needed of me? TonyBallioni (talk) 22:22, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Does anyone think a checkuser is merited? ILT may be too stale; CLSStudent goes back to March I think. OhNoitsJamie 22:46, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Not CLCStudent. Based on the log I think its Elkivis. TonyBallioni (talk) 22:54, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

I looked up Elkivis and found no such user. Do you mean Evlekis? aeschylus (talk) 02:21, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, I must have copied and pasted a typo from a block log somewhere. That's the one. TonyBallioni (talk) 16:57, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – July 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2021).

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• Consensus has been reached to delete all books in the book namespace. There was rough consensus that the deleted books should still be available on request at WP:REFUND even after the namespace is removed.
• An RfC is open to discuss the next steps following a trial which automatically applied pending changes to TFAs.

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• IP addresses of unregistered users are to be hidden from everyone. There is a rough draft of how IP addresses may be shown to users who need to see them. This currently details allowing administrators, checkusers, stewards and those with a new usergroup to view the full IP address of unregistered users. Editors with at least 500 edits and an account over a year old will be able to see all but the end of the IP address in the proposal. The ability to see the IP addresses hidden behind the mask would be dependent on agreeing to not share the parts of the IP address they can see with those who do not have access to the same information. Accessing part of or the full IP address of a masked editor would also be logged. Comments on the draft are being welcomed at the talk page.

Arbitration

• The community authorised COVID-19 general sanctions have been superseded by the COVID-19 discretionary sanctions following a motion at a case request. Alerts given and sanctions placed under the community authorised general sanctions are now considered alerts for and sanctions under the new discretionary sanctions.

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Requested block

Hello, could you go ahead and block this user? I put a report on WP:AIV a while ago, but they're still going.

Thanks Loafiewa (talk) 23:00, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Who? TonyBallioni (talk) 23:01, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

My mistake, 2600:1000:B015:B377:A2D6:B932:AB5D:B369 (talk · contribs · (/64) · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · http · block user · block log). This is the 3rd IP they've used today, so a wider rangeblock might be necessary. Loafiewa (talk) 23:02, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

I don't see a reason to block anyone on that /43 (Verizon so /64 isn't really applicable.) TonyBallioni (talk) 23:04, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Stuart Snyder

Hello. If possible, could you please restore this page's history and move the page to my userspace? I'd like to draft a better version if possible.--Enigma4221 (talk) 06:58, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

See Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Phil A. Fry. TonyBallioni (talk) 16:48, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

Every.single.time.-- Jezebel's Ponyo 17:36, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

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THX for BAN-ana rape against student-idiot

https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk%3A142.105.141.236&type=revision&diff=999604100&oldid=998725361