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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Dave Sharma/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: MPJ-DK (talk · contribs) 03:41, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

I will be picking up the review of this one - both for the Wiki Cup and the GA cup as well. I will be making my review comments over the next couple of days.

Side note, I would love some input on a couple of Featured List candidates, Mexican National Light Heavyweight Championship and NWA World Historic Welterweight Championship. I am not asking for Quid pro Quo, but all help is appreciated.  MPJ-US  03:41, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

• I'm not familiar with the featured list requirements at all, but I'll take a look at anything which jumps out at me. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 05:49, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

GA Toolbox

I like to get this checked out first, I have found issues using this that has led to quick fails so it's important this passes muster.

Peer review tool

• No issues detected Y

Copyright violations Tool

• Not seeing anything that is actually a violation Y

Disambiguation links

• No issues detected Y

External links

• No issues detected Y

Well Written

• "Since May 2013 he has" does not need the comma
  • I think this has been done already?
• "studying medicine he began working" should have a comma after the introduction so "studying medicine, he began working"
  • Y
• "in around 1999" can be simplified to "around 1999"
  • Y
• This part confuses me " (including as the and US President Barack Obama's visit to Australia in November 2011." not as well written as the rest of the article, please reword this.
  • Y Done, oops.
• The "Africa Branch" section really does not have enough info in it to warrant it's own section, can you add some details or perhaps merge it with the previous section?
  • How's what I did? Can always merge it into another section if you think tha

Sources/verifiable

• All look reliable, correct format, consistent date format etc. when there is an author they're listed etc. It's all good Y

Broad in coverage

• It's a pretty short article, 606 words of "written prose" (excluding info boxes etc.) but it's not so short I would automatically fail it for not being broad enough.
• Since the criteria is "broad" and not comprehensive this is broad enough Y

Neutral

• Yes, factual and straight forward Y

Stable

• Short article history, no issues jump out at me Y

Illustrated / Images

• No issues detected Y

General

• @Callanecc: - So that's my complete review, pretty quick since it's a short article. I am going to put this on hold for 7 days to allow for improvements to be made. Let me know when you're ready for me to review again.  MPJ-US  04:47, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
  • @MPJ-DK: I think I've done everything you mentioned. Let me know if you notice anything else. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 05:49, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
    • @Callanecc: - I am okay with everything that was addressed, looking good. I am happy to pass this for Good Artice status.  MPJ-US  20:20, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
      • Thanks MPJ-DK!! Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 23:38, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

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I removed material from the criticism section

It was brought up in a WP:BLPN discussion by the subject of this article here, and I agreed with some of their complaints, so I made this edit which removed some unreliably-sourced/unverifiable material. I'm leaving this note here as a placeholder for anyone who wants to contest my edits. Note that not all of their complaints were addressed, only those I felt were merited. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 14:55, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Having come from the same place I have added another tag for now. Jonathan A Jones (talk) 17:09, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for that better source tag. I know that Crikey is a well-respected news org, but that particular page doesn't read anything like I would expect from a reliable source making that claim. It reads like celebrity gossip, and a particularly "edgy" gossip column, at that. If nobody can provide a better source in the near future, I may just nix that whole part. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 17:24, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

MPants at work, I think it'd be fair to nix that whole part as it's part of their "Tips and Rumors" section rather than actual news, which is likely why it reads like edgy gossip. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:22, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

That's my impression, as well. I kinda want to see if someone can source it better, but I won't object if you remove it. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 19:29, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Regarding the following section of the article that was brought up originally at BLP/N:

On International Women's Day 2021, Sharma was criticized for handing out flowers to women. This move was considered tone deaf by some, and was magnified in the press due to its proximity to the 2021 Australian Parliament House sexual assault allegations.

The source is mainly about Sharma handing out flowers rather than criticism of it, and only one tweet calls it "tone-deaf". I really don't think one source is enough for us to say he was criticized for this action, and I certainly don't think one tweet is significant enough to include that "the move was considered tone deaf by some". These are relatively strong claims for a BLP, and only one verifying source just doesn't cut it in my opinion. ––FORMALDUDE 11:34, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

FormalDude, I concur. I'd be fine with removing that. I also think we should, in general, have a prohibition on using a source to describe reaction on Twitter. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:39, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

I'll go ahead and remove it for now and anyone who wants to contest it can do so.

@ScottishFinnishRadish: What do you mean exactly by a prohibition on using a source to describe reaction on twitter? If you're talking about reaching a consensus to not use sources to describe reactions via Twitter, I doubt that will ever happen. Especially considering a lot of notable people use Twitter to convey their reactions to things. ––FORMALDUDE 11:55, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

FormalDude, just a whimsical musing because so much cruft ends up in articles because news sources are fine with writing an article with a clickbait headline that's 75% screenshots of tweets from random people on the internet. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:00, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

It would be posisble to keep the "tone deaf" mark if it was attributed to Shaun Micallef, souced to a newspaper article republishing a tweet by a verified account. But I see no reason against just removing it per WP:WEIGHT so thanks for that. Jonathan A Jones (talk) 12:04, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Lol, that's definitely true. I would hope editors have the WP:COMMONSENSE not to use those kinds of sources. ––FORMALDUDE 12:06, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Good point, Jonathan A Jones. I also agree in removing it for WP:UNDUE though. ––FORMALDUDE 12:07, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

• I'm reverting (and rewording) the removal of the flowers bit. The majority of the Guardian piece was devoted to covering criticism of it. I said before that referring to it as "tone deaf" is a valid summary of the criticism in the article, but since it seems that phrase is at issue here, I'll re-word it. I also took out the bit about the proximity to the 2021 sexual assault allegations, because that was only mentioned in one tweet by a random twitter account. I also removed a complete non-sequitur about Sharma losing a domain name. I can't imagine why WP would care about something like that. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 13:03, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

  Perfect. Thank you! ––FORMALDUDE 13:30, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

  I don't have a terribly strong opinion, but it seems the sourcing is a bit scant to be in a "controversies" section. Checking google news for "dave sharma" flowers international women's day nets 19 results, most of which don't seem to actually discuss the flower handing out event. Most of the other results that are related aren't terribly reliable. Doesn't seem worthy of inclusion, but again my opinion isn't strong enough to revert. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:40, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

I net 1,590 Google results from the search "dave sharma" flowers "international women's day". MSN and Daily Mail UK being the most prominent additional sources. ––FORMALDUDE 13:45, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

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